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I honestly can't recall a single patreon porn game that wasn't de facto dropped. Closest is Urban Demons where the dev actually went back after dropping it to revamp the game and add an ending but even that was mostly a "wrap up"; otherwise we get stuff like Insexual Awakening which simply declared the game over between updates and added a lacklustre epilogue.

There's honestly no reason to support patreon games unless the dev clearly knows what they're doing like Peasant's Quest. If one wants to support game devs I think it makes much more sense to pay upfront for japanese games like SEQUEL Blight or whatever Kagura Games is working on rn.
You have captured in full, how a game should be developed.

In fact, Japanese games (all of them, from action-rpg to porn games), are first developed and completed (they also have their respective channel-chats, which the various publishers devote to the developers, like a DL site, but with a support method, completely different from the Western one), then they are purchased.

And between development and completion, there is also something called BugFix and internal BetaTester.

But some (Western) developers don't seem to want to understand this.

I think the explanation is very simple;

- The way, technique, and "corporate" policy of many platforms, such as patreon, is essentially the politics of debt. (I develop this, if you give me this).

This is followed by the policy of Blackmail. (I will show you more, if you give me more).

In fact, as can be seen, the consequence is precisely the creation of content that very often are superficial, rushed and ultimately mediocre.

This explains why many games are abandoned and many developers disappear from circulation.

Not before, however;

- Of deceiving many people.

I don't know if this is also the case with this developer, but I don't think he will abandon the game in question.

That is, unless, he decides, after completing it, to not fix the many bugs, which the game has been carrying around since its inception.

Another very important thing;

F95zone, has become a remarkable reference point, as far as technical discussions, asset development, creativity and support are concerned. (Many patreon users, subscribestar, etc., are; Mostly f95 users)

Another very important thing;

F95zone, has become a remarkable reference point, as far as technical discussions, asset development, creativity and support are concerned. (Many patreon users, subscribestar, etc., are; Mostly f95 users)

Meaning paying users and developer users.

(Sorry for eventually and any translation errors.)
 
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You have captured in full, how a game should be developed.

In fact, Japanese games (all of them, from action-rpg to porn games), are first developed and completed (they also have their respective channel-chats, which the various publishers devote to the developers, like a DL site, but with a support method, completely different from the Western one), then they are purchased.

And between development and completion, there is also something called BugFix and internal BetaTester.

But some (Western) developers don't seem to want to understand this.

I think the explanation is very simple;

- The way, technique, and "corporate" policy of many platforms, such as patreon, is essentially the politics of debt. (I develop this, if you give me this).

This is followed by the policy of Blackmail. (I will show you more, if you give me more).

In fact, as can be seen, the consequence is precisely the creation of content that very often are superficial, rushed and ultimately mediocre.

This explains why many games are abandoned and many developers disappear from circulation.

Not before, however;

- Of deceiving many people.

I don't know if this is also the case with this developer, but I don't think he will abandon the game in question.

That is, unless, he decides, after completing it, not to fix the many bugs, which the game has been carrying around since its inception.

Another very important thing;

F95zone, has become a remarkable reference point, as far as technical discussions, asset development, creativity and support are concerned. (Many patreon users, subscribestar, etc., are; Mostly f95 users)

Another very important thing;

F95zone, has become a remarkable reference point, as far as technical discussions, asset development, creativity and support are concerned. (Many patreon users, subscribestar, etc., are; Mostly f95 users)

Meaning paying users and developer users.

(Sorry for eventually and any translation errors.)
Since Patreon is a western site essentially. That's how you see it. What you are missing is that the people on Patreon. Producing these kinds of game are not actually game developers. A lot seem like hobbists(2D/3D) who saw a model to make a buck.EG Begger, his renders got better over time(as good as he could get with Klub17) Some are writers who see a different way to publish. I guess you can call these games technically. Most of them seem like little more than a new age porn comic book. From your description. You seem to be talking about serious game developers. Instead of "I had a heart attack and am a 1 man show." like Begger. I never understand why these types can't outsource work during such times. Oh right, it's only about the money.
 
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Since Patreon is a western site essentially. That's how you see it. What you are missing is that the people on Patreon. Producing these kinds of game are not actually game developers. A lot seem like hobbists(2D/3D) who saw a model to make a buck.EG Begger, his renders got better over time(as good as he could get with Klub17) Some are writers who see a different way to publish. I guess you can call these games technically. Most of them seem like little more than a new age porn comic book. From your description. You seem to be talking about serious game developers. Instead of "I had a heart attack and am a 1 man show." like Begger. I never understand why these types can't outsource work during such times. Oh right, it's only about the money.
Perhaps I did not express myself well, and for that I apologize.

What I mean is that there is a lack of will to do, both technical and artistic.

That is, the classic developer, with today's Western mentality, creates games in the style of "Cyberpunk 2077."

Yes, it is really a matter of just and only money.
 

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Yeah beggar is an asshole but ICSTOR still worse than beggar.
That's only because Incestor was making so much. He stayed in the top 5(estimated to 30-50k per month) of Patreon game publishers. Even after nadda for over a year. His scamming was therefor really magnified. Incestor Is also stupid. He could pay a writer and 3D artist 5k each a month and still made out like a bandit.

The old wars in the Milfy City thread were fun. His c*ck s*ckers, I mean supporters, went on and an update around the corner. "Inside" information rumors and such. The tough part was that there were always people just finding the game for the first time. I must admit it still holds up. I can hardly play anything these days. These newbies would come in raving about how great Incestor is. He really is the worst LOL.

I'm glad to see the Mods not propping up lazy creators by preventing legitimate criticisms these days. I guess I should donate again.
 

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Perhaps I did not express myself well, and for that I apologize.

What I mean is that there is a lack of will to do, both technical and artistic.

That is, the classic developer, with today's Western mentality, creates games in the style of "Cyberpunk 2077."

Yes, it is really a matter of just and only money.
I thought that you were respectful and thoughtful. No need to apologize. I think this is more of my point. Before Patroen these people would never reach a point near publication. Now people put up demos with just few renders. A bit a plot. And a hook(Patreon) n the water. Now you have a group of people who want to be part of the development. Add porn into the mix. And all normal rules go out the window. For me, give me a complete game. These games are free for me. I wouldn't even pay 20 for a complete game of this type. Back to my point. Now people who actually have passion, but no skill. Need for money, but have no skill. Can publish on the new crowd share funding that Patreon made accessible. There's a lot of reasons. Why this has come to pass.
 

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So wait, let me get this straight...

Anticipation of the Lucy content is the reason many of his supporters are still supporters, correct?

People have been waiting (and some paying) YEARS for it....

It finally gets released, and all the images are censored.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Talk about a big "fuck you" to his supporters. How this dude has a single Patreon come October 1 would be beyond any sense of reason.

LOL!!!! WOW!!!!
 
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Since Patreon is a western site essentially. That's how you see it. What you are missing is that the people on Patreon. Producing these kinds of game are not actually game developers. A lot seem like hobbists(2D/3D) who saw a model to make a buck.EG Begger, his renders got better over time(as good as he could get with Klub17) Some are writers who see a different way to publish. I guess you can call these games technically. Most of them seem like little more than a new age porn comic book. From your description. You seem to be talking about serious game developers. Instead of "I had a heart attack and am a 1 man show." like Begger. I never understand why these types can't outsource work during such times. Oh right, it's only about the money.
patrion is just kickstarter with manga publishing style (payed for but easily gotten free) for porn, while f95zone became its pornhub. in other words in the end its a coin flip. For kickstarter You can get masterpieces like bastion just as likely as you are to get shit like everfall.
for here you have good creators like G28, Boobsgame, HHS+, Wape, Akubar (before he semi retired), Girls Life, Chyos, and a good portion of the qsp/rag developers before Ukraine fucked them (as they were all Russian sanctions mean they cant get payed) who are trustworthy, update frequently, and will and/or have finished their game.

and then you have stupid creators who failed or are just bad at Business
you have people who burnt out or became bored with their own game, night city for example
internal drama, breeding seasons
No money, almost every unreal engine developer
bad development style, public sex life
or not enough staff for the type of game their doing, summertime saga (arts to detailed for 4 people to do in a reasonable amount of time)
the worst ones thou are those who are successful but are horrible at Buisness. Best example for that one is fenoxo. For years he didnt own the work put into his game, meaning he had no control (in all honesty he never cared, and left it to sevein which was a bad idea as sevins dictorial) so fixing and adding to work espeshaly when a creator left made it almost or actually impossible to do. why did he ever alow that to happen, espeshaly as he got everything else right. Once its in the game its thus a games asset not the persons who wrote it as they gave it to you for free or you payed them for it. Who the fuck forgets to secure and trademark their own assets, hes just begging to be sued and thats why he has to tiptoe around his own bloody game
 

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Basically that not even in the new update are all the events of the house with Lucy and if that wasn't enough a filter in the base files of the game to not fantasize with scenes (that at the rate we are going, we will never see them...) so that the community doesn't see it. I sincerely believe that the developer is no longer taking the development of the game, now he behaves like a furious child with revenge on the critics, instead of improving and among other things, fix the countless bugs in the game.
yeah, indeed. Someone should make a similar game with klub 17 characters also, and actually develop it. Woud make a lotta money, people are hungry for new good games this day. Beggar is slowly making his own demise
 
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