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Killer7

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I really think this discussion has been here too many Times. I said everything regarding possible LIs in the post above, so can we just leave it at that? Or I will actually make Martin and Jeff lewdable.
 

Jonte555

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I really think this discussion has been here too many Times. I said everything regarding possible LIs in the post above, so can we just leave it at that? Or I will actually make Martin and Jeff lewdable.
Great game don't let anyone tell you otherwise
 

snakeplisskin

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weren't the pedos in hiding after westy got busted? where did all those people asking for Olivia to be lewdable came from?
go bark at another tree.
I blame pedocorner forcing everyone to work for their loli content lol. Maybe they are oming here since they are lazy.
 

jaw1986baby

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(To preface this, I'm fine with and have no intention of harassing K7 over whatever he decides to do. He's said he'll write what he thinks is right for the characters and I respect that.)

I don't really understand this line of argument from you and others because to me she looks only slightly younger than Morgan and Sophie. Saying the two of them are totally fine despite them also looking young/petite but saying Olivia, who looks similar and is also clearly pubescent, too loli-like is very disingenuous. The actual loli fans would label her a hebe rather than a loli and, even here on F95zone where rule 7 bans many such games, she is allowed. Hell, you can find adult video performers with a similar body type - she is young looking, yes, but is still in the realm of plausibly adult.

Second, her inclusion/exclusion as an LI has been uncertain for most of this game's existence. Yes, when first posted K7 said in the dev notes that she would not be an LI. But that was shortly after removed and replaced with "Also, all the characters you will meet in the game will eventually be lewdable.". Admittedly, K7 has not from what I've seen confirmed one way or the other and has only said he'll do whatever whatever is right for the characters. But this is in line with what others have said happened with Alice in MNF where she was initially not an LI before becoming uncertain and eventually becoming an LI.

So as I said, I support K7 in doing whatever he feels is right even if that means excluding Olivia and am not asking for her to be one. What I am pushing back against is you and other members stating, without evidence or clear rational, that she is definitely not an LI and that anyone asking about her, but not about the other petite girls, only cares about her because loli. I, like others have said in the past, would like her to be an LI since excluding her out of the whole family seems odd in concept and would be odd to see play out.
Nah she is not a hebe

Ephebe for sure

Loli is a stupid and useless term that originates from an 11 year old that nobody has pictures of. You can extend the age but the variability of development in women makes age ranges close to impossible to define with hard set body types.

I have known 13 yo girls who are flat and who were DD just in my own real life.

Loli is dumb -- should be replaced with Teen
Actual depictions that look pre-pubescent are prohibited and that is what a lot of the people looking for loli do want because they have no concept of the term - where it comes from, what it means
 

jaw1986baby

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That being said
After the initial no lewd Olivia
Killer7 changed that and said anyone with a name not a title like "waitress" would be lewdable

It would be nice to have full clarity, cuz if Olivia is never going to be -- I don't want to waste my time (though I have my Steam purchase no matter what)
 
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turgsh01

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I've said some of this before, but since it's relevant again and I have a new prime example, I'll say it again...

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I have known 13 yo girls who are flat and who were DD just in my own real life.
So have I. I went to school with 2 of them that had DD (same grade) and one of them flashed me, I think on a dare... which was of course awesome at the time!
 
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Kytronix

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Hello there you very cute and super wholesome people!

Another week, another progress update!

I received an email from my lawyer on friday regarding both cases that are currently running. In the one where I'm the victim/witness, nothing really happened. Other witnesses were heard but they used their right to stay quiet. The judge is apparently pretty frustrated because one of them initially said they want to confess. In the case against me the state attorney told my lawyer that he should receive an updated case file soon, so we will know where they are with their investigation right now. Once he has it I will get another appointment with him where we can dicuss everything. The 8 month mark is approaching faster than I thought...

Okay, let's talk about the games.

My initial plan was to be done with the second "day" of the prequel script already, but I feel like it was missing something crucial so I'm currently adding that. Still, it will 100% be done this week and then it's "just" the renders I will have to make. Should not take too long hopefully, I think last time it took me a week? I don't really remember. Anyway, I had an interesting idea for this event I'm currently writing, an event that will explain certain things the MC did in his past that lead to rather heavy consequences ( that thankly all are solved now ). While the MC is not a violent person, there are situations where he can't really control his temper and retaliates a little...Well, I wouldn't say extreme, but in a matter that might seem extreme to others. There is going to be a similar situation in the prequel and I think after the MC explains everything, you will know why he did those things in the main game. Not that I've seen anyone complaining or questioning him regarding that so far, but you know, it adds some character development. The lewd event of this day will actually be hilarious and very awkward, since the MC and the woman that is with him are both very inexperienced. It will be a fun little event and I think it will also help a lot once that woman will be introduced in the main game. Todays render is Lea and Sabrina at MC's home, before they grab some dinner Bethany made!

Of course I also worked a little on Chapter 4 again, mainly because I was still brainstorming about that event in the prequel. I managed to write one of the prequel girls into the main game already, even though it will just be by word and a picture. You're not going to see her in Chapter 4 but she will join the roster pretty quickly - most likely right in Chapter 5. She will just be as important as Karla, Emily and Caroline for the family, so I think it will be a fun experience once she appears in the main game - With a slightly different look, of course. I also started to work on a big event with Sarah that happens on the third day of Chapter 4. As you can imagine, there was a lot of stuff that happened between her saving the MC and the "aftermath". There is going to be an explanation for that and I plan to make this event very emotional and cute. I don't want to ruin the special moment they had so I have to be careful to not drag Sarah into a direction where she doesn't belong - especially with the MC and Anna telling each other everything and her knowing what happened between them. I think I have a good idea on what I'm going to do though, so I can't wait for you guys to give it a go yourself!

And I think thats it for now. Shorter progress update again, I guess, but I'll keep you guys posted if anything happens! Thanks again for your amazing support regarding everything that has been happening to me these last few months. Stay awesome!

 

ScourgeX

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I've said some of this before, but since it's relevant again and I have a new prime example, I'll say it again...

Skip the spoiler if you're tired of reading about this loli / underage nonsense.
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So have I. I went to school with 2 of them that had DD (same grade) and one of them flashed me, I think on a dare... which was of course awesome at the time!

*EDIT: I apologize for going off-topic, K7, I hadn't read through the last few posts yet when I typed this post. That, and I just felt like this needed to be said. I'll not bring it up again.*

Extremely valid point. I have no desire to get into the politics or morality aspects, at least, not here, and not now, nor am I going to get into to this discussion of whether or not Olivia will be an LI. Killer7 will do what K7 wants to do. It's his game, and his decision.

That being said: there are friggin 12 year olds who look like they are in they are in their late twenties and have a large bust, and there are 30 year olds who look like they are 13 and are totally flat-chested. You can't judge a book by its cover. One of my old girlfriends when I was I was in my late twenties was a tiny little latina gal. She was 24 and looked like she was about ten or twelve. She was 4 foot nothing and weighed about 85 pounds...If she were sopping wet in winter clothing. She was so light that I could easily lift her up, and throw her up to the ceiling, and catch her...Over and over, without getting tired. She was just tiny. She was literally too short for some amusement park rides (the ones with the "you must be this tall --> <-- to ride" signs). We had people call the police on us many, many times when we kissed in public, claiming that some forty year old pedo was abusing a preteen. I looked forty, when I was in my twenties (ironically, now that I'm well past forty, I apparently look half my age, so long as I keep my beard and hair short enough to hide the gray creeping into it). She looked about twelve. It eventually got to the point we didn't dare even hug or hold hands in public because people would constantly make incorrect assumptions and call the police. Last time I talked to her on the phone (we lived in different states by then, but had stayed friends long after the romance fizzled out), she sent me a selfie. She was 33 by then and STILL looked twelve.

Also, how many "children" have been depicted in movies and TV shows by actors and actresses who were in their twenties or even thirties? Mostly just makeup, costuming, and camera angles to make them appear younger. It's quite routine, and only a small percentage of "minors" depicted on film are actually played by minors. Unless the character is like six or seven. For that, at least, they usually have to actually find actual child actors.

Another relevant anecdote here, does anyone remember that scandal about twenty years ago where someone got arrested at a US port of entry coming back from a trip to Mexico, with a bunch of a porn videos they'd purchased at a flea market? They actually arrested the poor bastard for CP and even had an "expert witness" who was an MD and pediatrician testify in court that based on the body structure of the actress, she could not possibly be past puberty. They nearly convicted the guy until the actress herself (she was from Argentina, I think, or somewhere in South America, at any rate), heard about the case and actually traveled to the US to testify on his behalf, and provide proof of her age. I don't recall her name, only that she did a lot of the "loli" fantasy fetish porn. The whole thing was actually pretty stupid because the exact same videos that they claimed were CP were actually sold in the US, quite legally, in adult entertainment shops all over the country. I think I recall it being mentioned that she had some particular medical condition that contributed in part to her child-like appearance, though I could be wrong. I'm dredging up vague memories from two decades ago, after all.

EDIT: Elhemeer kindly dug up an article for the incident in the last paragraph for anyone interested:
 
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