VN Ren'Py My Pig Princess [v0.9.0] [CyanCapsule]

[Cat Milk]

Bro complains about "getting invited to fuck around" while crying about a "the excrutiating dump of exposition" that literally made him quit the game.
1. There was no info dump, you just have the attention span of a goldfish.
2. If that was an info dump, then why would you complain about a simple story that just let's you enjoy it linearly. You dont want a complex story with lot's of info and choices cause you cried about "an info dump". You dont want a simple linear story either.
Jesus Christ, lmao.

Sorry i don't get your supposed points. You are saying there is no info dump and i have a short attention span.
Then you are asking, "if" there was a info dump, why am i complaining about the simple story that lets me enjoy it linearly?
Sorry that doesn't make any sense... I enjoy linear stories, as i pointed out i actually read books... so, there is proof that my attention span is not that of a goldfish... I just have a low tolerance for bad writing and exposition dumps right at the very start of a story, its just something you can avoid by simply not doing it... don#t start your story with explaining stuff that isn't relevant... like why the entire monologue about him getting tired out already and how it usually takes the entire season for him to get worn out? If he wants to point out that he is getting older and thus more easily tired by physical labour why not state it that way in a simple sentence or two... right from the top of my head i could reduce this {
"Augh!"
"Summer just started and my back's already killing me!"
"It usually takes a few more months of hard work for my body to get this worn out."
"Maybe all the years of working these fields is finally catching up to me."
"...I could really use a break." } to this...

"Augh! i think i am getting too old for this, usually it takes the entire season to break my back!"
"Time for a little siesta, let me grab this delicious looking cucumber and off i go to my favorite spot." <-- all the information is in there, what drives me nuts, why is he pointing out that he is a farmer when we are literally seeing it?? its called a VISUAL novel for a reason... you don't show and tell, you either tell and DONT show or you do show and DONT tell... anyways, its not about me wanting a complex story or a deep story... i don't know how else to communicate my criticism other than its just bad writing...

EDIT: maybe it has been a bit since i have read my pig princess in total but does it come into play at some point later in the game that he farmed his body to hell up to the point he got back issues??? i don't remember anywhere later in the game making reference to it...

 

[Kunt]

Sorry i don't get your supposed points. You are saying there is no info dump and i have a short attention span.
Then you are asking, "if" there was a info dump, why am i complaining about the simple story that lets me enjoy it linearly?
Sorry that doesn't make any sense... I enjoy linear stories, as i pointed out i actually read books... so, there is proof that my attention span is not that of a goldfish... I just have a low tolerance for bad writing and exposition dumps right at the very start of a story, its just something you can avoid by simply not doing it... don#t start your story with explaining stuff that isn't relevant... like why the entire monologue about him getting tired out already and how it usually takes the entire season for him to get worn out? If he wants to point out that he is getting older and thus more easily tired by physical labour why not state it that way in a simple sentence or two... right from the top of my head i could reduce this {
"Augh!"
"Summer just started and my back's already killing me!"
"It usually takes a few more months of hard work for my body to get this worn out."
"Maybe all the years of working these fields is finally catching up to me."
"...I could really use a break." } to this...

"Augh! i think i am getting too old for this, usually it takes the entire season to break my back!"
"Time for a little siesta, let me grab this delicious looking cucumber and off i go to my favorite spot." <-- all the information is in there, what drives me nuts, why is he pointing out that he is a farmer when we are literally seeing it?? its called a VISUAL novel for a reason... you don't show and tell, you either tell and DONT show or you do show and DONT tell... anyways, its not about me wanting a complex story or a deep story... i don't know how else to communicate my criticism other than its just bad writing...

EDIT: maybe it has been a bit since i have read my pig princess in total but does it come into play at some point later in the game that he farmed his body to hell up to the point he got back issues??? i don't remember anywhere later in the game making reference to it...

I'm pretty sure you've been complaining and writing for way longer that "the excrutiating infor dump" that made you quit the game even is.
It's literally a normal ass intro that you read in a single minute, two if you are very slow.
Let it go bro, it ain't that deep.

 

[Cat Milk]

I'm pretty sure you've been complaining and writing for way longer that "the excrutiating infor dump" that made you quit the game even is.
It's literally a normal ass intro that you read in a single minute, two if you are very slow.
Let it go bro, it ain't that deep.

So you think thorough criticism is comparable to a visual novel that the criticism is geared towards? So in conclusion i should dumb down and shorten my criticism? i actually did that... " I 100% disagree... the writing is actually bad and the story is not even there... you just get invited to literally fuck around. The only good thing it has going for it is the Art." But that kind of triggered certain Fans of the game and i felt compelled to substantiate my criticism, to not just say "hurr, games bad." but also lay out what, in my opinion, is bad writing...
Its not a "normal ass" intro, a normal ass intro includes a hook, can you tell me what the hook in the intro was?
"This morning i woke up dead!" <-- this is a hook... a hook is important for the beginning that gets the reader interested in the story, the hooks job is to raise interesting questions... regarding my just made up hook "how can you wake up dead? what happend to him that he wakes up dead?" and you keep reading because you want answers... THAT is a normal ass intro... or at least it should be! I really don't get it, why are people defending bad writing with all these really weird arguments and copes?

The beginning of my pig princess was "i do this, now i do that, oh am i so doing the other and oh look a castle..." this is the intro... and like i pointed out, it could be better... the game is still in development and the author could rewrite.

 

[Kunt]

So you think thorough criticism is comparable to a visual novel that the criticism is geared towards? So in conclusion i should dumb down and shorten my criticism? i actually did that... " I 100% disagree... the writing is actually bad and the story is not even there... you just get invited to literally fuck around. The only good thing it has going for it is the Art." But that kind of triggered certain Fans of the game and i felt compelled to substantiate my criticism, to not just say "hurr, games bad." but also lay out what, in my opinion is bad writing...
Its not a "normal ass" intro, a normal ass intro includes a hook, can you tell me what the hook in the intro was?
"This morning i woke up dead!" <-- this is a hook... a hook is important for the beginning that gets the reader interested in the story, the hooks job is to raise interesting questions... regarding my just amde up hook "how can you wake up dead? what happend to him that he wakes up dead?" and you keep reading because you want answers... THAT is a normal ass intro... or at least it should be! I really don't get it how it is so hard and why people are defending bad writing with all these really weird arguments and copes.

The beginning of my pig princess was "i do this, now i do that, oh am i so doing the other and oh look a castle..." this is the intro... and like i pointed out, it could be better... the game is still in development and the author could rewrite.

No, you shouldn't dumb down your criticism lmao, you criticism IS dumb.
It's petty and pathetic and you come out as whiny.
Feel free to write 10 more paragraphs about a minute long intro for a charming VN porn game about fucking a pig, lol. Ciao.

 

[Hiarus]

I 100% disagree... the writing is actually bad and the story is not even there... you just get invited to literally fuck around. The only good thing it has going for it is the Art. Sorry to say but People like you are a complete mystery to me... just throw something half nice at you and you people think its the Holy Grail.

EDIT: As an example for bad writing, the excrutiating dump of exposition right in the beginning, that made me quit the first time i played, i had to literally force myself to read past through the chore.

Here's the thing, you gotta ask yourself what this game is trying to be, if the writing supports that goal then i'd say it did it's job

Imo, writing can be truly called bad when it completely misses the mark on what it was trying to do; this game isn't trying to be the next eternum, it's just a fun, light-hearted ride with good art where you get to fuck furries

 

[Hiarus]

There was a comic?! Any links?

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Diverting from the topic slightly; there's a trap horse OC that hasn't been added to this game yet, wonder if he's gonna show up eventually

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

Can you imagine how long it would be between updates if the story was actually well paced though? The MC probably wouldn't have even kissed the princess yet . The dev makes some phenomenal art and great character design so it's not too much of a problem for me.

Mmmmm.... not really no. The story itself is already setup for speed. Curious and inexperienced princess, you human male being chosen, with the added fantasy of human "romance" with that smut book she had. Even when it comes to the pacing of everything else. It ain't exactly a slow bop. Despite us being an outsider, we quickly become besties and friends with the folks we meet. Yet despite everything else having a brisk pace as is. The princess stands out as going lightspeed in an already decently fast world. To where it just feels a wee bit off. As I mentioned before, there are games that do fast. This one felt less like speed and more like we jumped from A to C while there was supposed to be a B in there somewhere.

 

[Cat Milk]

Mmmmm.... not really no. The story itself is already setup for speed. Curious and inexperienced princess, you human male being chosen, with the added fantasy of human "romance" with that smut book she had. Even when it comes to the pacing of everything else. It ain't exactly a slow bop. Despite us being an outsider, we quickly become besties and friends with the folks we meet. Yet despite everything else having a brisk pace as is. The princess stands out as going lightspeed in an already decently fast world. To where it just feels a wee bit off. As I mentioned before, there are games that do fast. This one felt less like speed and more like we jumped from A to C while there was supposed to be a B in there somewhere.

Exactly, i feel like it misses a tiny bit of erotic tension, like the push and pull you actually need to make the spicy stuff feel satisfying when it happens... as of now the game feels more like you pointed out a jumping from a to c with no meaning behind anything, there are sooo many potential bits to make a interesting and tense story. (yes, you can have good writing and a interesting story even in a porn game and even in a fun and light-hearted one) and i wish my pig princess had that, because i really love the Art style and the overall positive vibe...

I really do hope or wished the author would pick up the question of "why are humans rare?", i want to know... was it the war that decimated them? was it a magical thing? were they rare to begin with? did they became infertile because of microplastics???

 

[falsapersona]

So you think thorough criticism is comparable to a visual novel that the criticism is geared towards? So in conclusion i should dumb down and shorten my criticism? i actually did that... " I 100% disagree... the writing is actually bad and the story is not even there... you just get invited to literally fuck around. The only good thing it has going for it is the Art." But that kind of triggered certain Fans of the game and i felt compelled to substantiate my criticism, to not just say "hurr, games bad." but also lay out what, in my opinion, is bad writing...
Its not a "normal ass" intro, a normal ass intro includes a hook, can you tell me what the hook in the intro was?
"This morning i woke up dead!" <-- this is a hook... a hook is important for the beginning that gets the reader interested in the story, the hooks job is to raise interesting questions... regarding my just made up hook "how can you wake up dead? what happend to him that he wakes up dead?" and you keep reading because you want answers... THAT is a normal ass intro... or at least it should be! I really don't get it, why are people defending bad writing with all these really weird arguments and copes?

Consider this for a moment. All recent comments in this thread, yours included, all seem to agree that the art is where this game shines, could it be that dev may be satisfied with being an okay-ish to decent writer as long as it let it keep making his drawings? Wouldn't be the first nor the last artist who couldn't write for shite; and for what is worth don't think that's the case, worldbuilding is not bad at all, Hog Haven feels like a place which is lived in, not just City X where characters are for the plot to happen. Don't worry so much about how great it could have been if he only did this or did that, if dev thought that starting his game with an internal monologue right from the get go felt right, then so be it. Hooks, cliffhangers and exposition are all tool of the trade, it is to each to decide which one to use. You can call it lazy or uninspired choice but it gets the job done

If you feel so strongly about being able to deliver a better job, you are always welcome to try, people write fanfiction about basically anything nowadays, and something like that* is more likely to be read by cyancapsule than this thread. Or give it a try in game development, maybe you could be the next caribdis or DPC

I really do hope or wished the author would pick up the question of "why are humans rare?", i want to know... was it a war that decimated them? was it a magical thing? were they rare to begin with? did they became infertile because of microplastics???

Now you are being obtuse, this is a fantasy setting. It hasn't been implying at any point that this is our world, past or present. Think about it as an alternate reality where we never became the dominant specie

 

[Cat Milk]

Consider this for a moment. All recent comments in this thread, yours included, all seem to agree that the art is where this game shines, could it be that dev may be satisfied with being an okay-ish to decent writer as long as it let it keep making his drawings? Wouldn't be the first nor the last artist who couldn't write for shite; and for what is worth don't think that's the case, worldbuilding is not bad at all, Hog Haven feels like a place which is lived in, not just City X where characters are for the plot to happen. Don't worry so much about how great it could have been if he only did this or did that, if dev thought that starting his game with an internal monologue right from the get go felt right, then so be it. Hooks, cliffhangers and exposition are all tool of the trade, it is to each to decide which one to use. You can call it lazy or uninspired choice but it gets the job done

If you feel so strongly about being able to deliver a better job, you are always welcome to try, people write fanfiction about basically anything nowadays, and something like is more likely to be read by cyancapsule that this thread. Or give it a try in game development, maybe you could be the next caribdis or DPC


Now you are being obtuse, this is a fantasy setting. It hasn't been implying at any point that this is our world, past or present. Think about it as an alternate reality where we never became the dominant specie

Obtuse? Obtuse is somebody who understands things in a painfully slow pace.
Can you explain to me how i am obtuse by asking how humans became rare in the fantasy world the author created?
" Think about it as an alternate reality where we never became the dominant specie " <-- this is you just asserting that, but we don't know, since the author only hinted at a war that lead to the mc's people scattering around. We don't know if it was just his towns or village people who got scattered or if all of the humans lived in that place and got scattered across the world... we don't know. I really don't think i am obtuse for asking how and why the humans became rare in the world... I am not in the habit of making things up as i go just because the author didn't care enough to flesh out the story and world.

P.S.: Humans being rare seems to be a important aspect of the "story". The fact they obsess about a erotic fiction book about humans stresses the fact that humans aren't that common in the world. So it seems to me that it would be a important aspect to cover... i mean... "Hey, humans are rare, anyways, let's move on and fuck furrpeople.". It is really odd the MC is not even expressing any longing, remorse or nostalgia for his past where he was around his own people ect... i dunno... like i wrote, i want to know why and how.

 

[ProtonIsNotGreat]

You know there is a major content drought because people suddenly are doing literary analysis on the "fuck the pig on the ass" game.

 

[falsapersona]

Obtuse? Obtuse is somebody who understands things in a painfully slow pace.

More like deliberately refusing to see something obvious. Depending on the context it can mean both things, but I may not be able to provide a good explanation, so here are two quotes from the merriam-webster dictionary (

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):

a person who isn’t thinking clearly or who otherwise refuses to see something apparent to others

Choose the Right Synonym for obtuse
obtuse implies such bluntness as makes one insensitive in perception or imagination.

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" Think about it as an alternate reality where we never became the dominant specie " <-- this is you just asserting that, but we don't know, since the author only hinted at a war that lead to the mc's people scattering around.

I am not even asserting, that is my personal interpretation based on the fact that MC is the only human we have met so far, that we know that the book in vogue is Humane Hunk which fetishises humans, that is uncommon for a human to visit the Capital, and that pigs and apparently wolfs are species that are up enough in the totem pole to care to have a war, if humans even took part in that war is anybody's guess. Beautiful thing about vagueness is that if the author set the seeds in the right places it will drive wild the reader's imagination

But you need to set your expectations right, we may not get an answer to why there is only one human on sight, because that is unimportant for Emelie love or lust story, in the same way that any curious or interesting trivia fact about WW2 is unimportant to when watching "The Sound of Music". IMO a more concerning fact is why does Victoria has boobs, chickens lay eggs, they don't need breast-feed, do they have any other use than the visual stimulation of the player? Could it be that she a hybrid? Maybe that's reason why there is so few humans around is because somewhere in the past humans started to fucking animals and reproduction was possible and that resulted in the many anthropomorphic beings that we see

And consider the tone of work when coming up with theories, everything we have seen is light and charming so it is unlikely that any explanation to your question is a decimation event, not every author needs to pull a DDLC shift to be worth consuming

 

[Cat Milk]

More like deliberately refusing to see something obvious. Depending on the context it can mean both things, but I may not be able to provide a good explanation, so here are two quotes from the merriam-webster dictionary (

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I am not even asserting, that is my personal interpretation based on the fact that MC is the only human we have met so far, that we know that the book in vogue is Humane Hunk which fetishises humans, that is uncommon for a human to visit the Capital, and that pigs and apparently wolfs are species that are up enough in the totem pole to care to have a war, if humans even took part in that war is anybody's guess. Beautiful thing about vagueness is that if the author set the seeds in the right places it will drive wild the reader's imagination

But you need to set your expectations right, we may not get an answer to why there is only one human on sight, because that is unimportant for Emelie love or lust story, in the same way that any curious or interesting trivia fact about WW2 is unimportant to when watching "The Sound of Music". IMO a more concerning fact is why does Victoria has boobs, chickens lay eggs, they don't need breast-feed, do they have any other use than the visual stimulation of the player? Could it be that she a hybrid? Maybe that's reason why there is so few humans around is because somewhere in the past humans started to fucking animals and reproduction was possible and that resulted in the many anthropomorphic beings that we see

And consider the tone of work when coming up with theories, everything we have seen is light and charming so it is unlikely that any explanation to your question is a decimation event, not every author needs to pull a DDLC shift to be worth consuming

I have a challenge for you, try to not insult me or label me as this or that in the next few replies towards me and try to just argue the points and arguments i make...

"I am not even asserting, that is my personal interpretation" you told me that i refuse to see something obvious, so you are not making a personal interpretation, because then it wouldn't be obvious... you are asserting, which means to state a fact with forcefull confidence... you are saying "its obvious xyz is the way i am saying it is." which is asserting something.

"that is uncommon for a human to visit the Capital" exactly, why is it uncommon? aren't there humans in other cities trying to establish commerce with other cities? the opposite of that would be avoidance and why would Hog Haven avoid commerce with human cities, villages ect.? like i constantly point out, all these things are really juicy questions and potential ways to flesh out the world, story and characters...

I do like your theory of the Furrpeople being hybrids and sort of being the next evolutionary step of the humans in the world of my pig princess. I really do hope that the author is able to rectify all the open questions into a nice ending or twist...

 

[Duckson1298]

Guys, I'm going to ask again, does anyone have the post from September 30th? Because in kemono they simply skipped this post

 

[falsapersona]

"that is uncommon for a human to visit the Capital" exactly, why is it uncommon? aren't there humans in other cities trying to establish commerce with other cities? the opposite of that would be avoidance and why would Hog Haven avoid commerce with human cities, villages ect.? like i constantly point out, all these things are really juicy questions and potential ways to flesh out the world, story and characters...

The pig guard is surprised when he sees our human MC at the beginning of the game, and says something like he will need to check with some higher up how to proceed because he isn't sure a human has entered the kingdom before. What I got from that, is that humans don't use that gate very much

I do like your theory of the Furrpeople being hybrids and sort of being the next evolutionary step of the humans in the world of my pig princess. I really do hope that the author is able to rectify all the open questions into a nice ending or twist...

I was mostly rambling with that tangent, but the likely response is wish fulfillment. No need for twists, we just want to keep fucking the pig, and the bitch, and the chick too, and maybe, just maybe the pig mother too... probably the king won't mind

Guys, I'm going to ask again, does anyone have the post from September 30th? Because in kemono they simply skipped this post

Sorry mate, also leeching from kemono and this forum. Just keep checking, odds are a kind patron will share eventually

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

Bro complains about "getting invited to fuck around" while crying about a "the excrutiating dump of exposition" that literally made him quit the game.
1. There was no info dump, you just have the attention span of a goldfish.
2. If that was an info dump, then why would you complain about a simple story that just let's you enjoy it linearly. You dont want a complex story with lot's of info and choices cause you cried about "an info dump". You dont want a simple linear story either.
Jesus Christ, lmao.

This much confidence in being wrong is crazy. You do realize that you can have a linear story with an extensive info dump, right. And there are info dumps were they might as well turn to the audience and talk.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

"Augh! i think i am getting too old for this, usually it takes the entire season to break my back!"
"Time for a little siesta, let me grab this delicious looking cucumber and off i go to my favorite spot." <-- all the information is in there, what drives me nuts, why is he pointing out that he is a farmer when we are literally seeing it?? its called a VISUAL novel for a reason... you don't show and tell, you either tell and DONT show or you do show and DONT tell... anyways, its not about me wanting a complex story or a deep story... i don't know how else to communicate my criticism other than its just bad writing...

Good catch and excellent summary. But I disagree with you on "you can tell but don’t show," you can do both – this is what Blocking is, the trick is not to repeat the same information or showcase a character dynamic.

 

[Duckson1298]

PHey guys, this is a porn game forum. If you want to discuss other things, make a group and talk about it, or I don't know, talk about it via DM. Doing this here will just pollute the topic.I just want to see the patreon post from the 30th September And I see a lot of talk outside, it's a bit discouraging.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

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Diverting from the topic slightly; there's a trap horse OC that hasn't been added to this game yet, wonder if he's gonna show up eventually

You know, I was saying the other day that a trap would be welcome. And following the link there seems to be a lot of Ocs he's got in the works.

 

[Hiarus]

You know, I was saying the other day that a trap would be welcome. And following the link there seems to be a lot of Ocs he's got in the works.

Agreed actually, for a little bit I was betting on the pig friend being a trap, and the reason we never see him without armor is because they're saving it for the reveal