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My take on it has always been, if all you care about is the fap, why are you playing porn games at all? Just go watch actual porn. There's a near-infinite supply of it on the Internet, and it involves way less work to get to the actual payoff.

The appeal of most porn games/visual novels are almost always more about the actual game/visual novel parts and not the porn. The porn is just the garnish.

There's a reason why so many reviews on this site are basically "This is a shit game, the renders are really attractive but the writing is braindead, 1/5."

Fair, but we as consumers of these kind of games need to balance our expectations. Most of the AVNs that show up in the forum are indie games from a small team or a lonesome dev, sometimes are passion projects or attempts to get their feet wet in game development which mean that likely there will be room for improvement in one area or another. That doesn't mean you shouldn't provide feedback throughout the proper channels but that whole discussion started from arguing that the writing in this particular game was bad and that we were not being critical enough. To what I keep saying that is decent enough, but the highlight is the visuals, which I don't think is a hot take

But it died down around the time we received an update so it may have been the result of too much time and lack of content
 
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Fair, but we as consumers of these kind of games need to balance our expectations. Most of the AVNs that show up in the forum are indie games from a small team or a lonesome dev, sometimes are passion projects or attempts to get their feet wet in game development which mean that likely there will be room for improvement in one area or another. That doesn't mean you shouldn't provide feedback throughout the proper channels but that whole discussion started from arguing that the writing in this particular game was bad and that we were not being critical enough. To what I keep saying that is decent enough, but the highlight is the visuals, which I don't think is a hot take

But it died down around the time we received an update so it may have been the result of too much time and lack of content
nah, i disagree with you on pretty much everything, the games writing is still awfull, and the games highlight is not just the visuals. Your take is based on your own standards and its not controversial, its just bad. If you ask people about normal games what they deem the most important, guess what their answer is, i'll give you a tip, its not the visuals. People in this very forum constantly point out how they prefer good stories over visuals and deem visuals to be secondary. The Artist of this game made comics in the past, so its not just the visuals, the Artist wants to tell stories. So the highlight of this game is not just the visuals, its also the story and the writing is still bad.

I catched up to the latest update and the writing didn't improve at all, which is a god damn shame, since the visuals are so cute and wholesome. Do a little experiment and open the textfiles of the game and read the dialogue without the visuals and you'll see... it reads like a private roleplay between 2 people in Discord DM's. T_T


"I slowly apply some pressure and prod Maple's anal opening with my tip-" uhm.. Anal opening? they mean anus right?...
 
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"I slowly apply some pressure and prod Maple's anal opening with my tip-" uhm.. Anal opening? they mean anus right?...
No they mean butthole. I'm pretty sure the only correct term is "butthole". When they wrote "anal opening" I was extremely confused, just as you were. Synonyms and shit, that's really, as you put it, "awfull writing".
 
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nah, i disagree with you on pretty much everything, the games writing is still awfull, and the games highlight is not just the visuals. Your take is based on your own standards and its not controversial, its just bad. If you ask people about normal games what they deem the most important, guess what their answer is, i'll give you a tip, its not the visuals. People in this very forum constantly point out how they prefer good stories over visuals and deem visuals to be secondary. The Artist of this game made comics in the past, so its not just the visuals, the Artist wants to tell stories. So the highlight of this game is not just the visuals, its also the story and the writing is still bad.

I catched up to the latest update and the writing didn't improve at all, which is a god damn shame, since the visuals are so cute and wholesome. Do a little experiment and open the textfiles of the game and read the dialogue without the visuals and you'll see... it reads like a private roleplay between 2 people in Discord DM's. T_T


"I slowly apply some pressure and prod Maple's anal opening with my tip-" uhm.. Anal opening? they mean anus right?...
I get you, but maybe try to concentrate less on a text and more on the art?
 

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I get you, but maybe try to concentrate less on a text and more on the art?
Cat Milk is not here just for the visuals, that the problem he has, im here cuz the art is sublime and after playing a few eastern visual novels i now play them all on fast forward, the dialog is predictable so i barely need to slow down to re-read
and the games highlight is not just the visuals
My take on it has always been, if all you care about is the fap, why are you playing porn games at all? Just go watch actual porn. There's a near-infinite supply of it on the Internet, and it involves way less work to get to the actual payoff.

The appeal of most porn games/visual novels are almost always more about the actual game/visual novel parts and not the porn. The porn is just the garnish.
True and I agree... BUT my solution, or better said, my hot take on this topic is: If I wanted good story on my porn, I would notplay weastern VNs, I would play japanese ones. Now I know you have some nuance but, for the rest, I KNOW the are exceptions to this (I belive "Everlasting Summer" is pretty good, and that one is russian), and that's why I also undestarnd the dissapointment of you and other people when the story writing is shit. But then again i have come to expect this from weastern VNs so I have to agree with:
To what I keep saying that is decent enough, but the highlight is the visuals, which I don't think is a hot take
Because this shity ass writing is what I have come to expect from these games, and sadly here is the only place were I can keep watching that FREAKINGLY CUTE pig being railed.

But by all means please keep criticizing the writing, the moment the critics stop is the moment when the autors stop trying, and this has greatly affected the media we see today.

PD:I wanted in on the long ass comments hihi
 
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Cat Milk is not here just for the visuals, that the problem he has, im here cuz the art is sublime and after playing a few eastern visual novels i now play them all on fast forward, the dialog is predictable so i barely need to slow down to re-read
I know, right? After just a few regular VNs, not talking that few personal favorites gems, all these dialogues is such a waste of time even with skipping, especially if you need only one or few characters interactions or kinks. Also if you looking for some decent story to read here you're on the wrong fucking website.
 
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So, what else would you like to see being discussed in this forum?
Expectations for the next scenes, wishlist for the next extra scenes (like the voyeur one), recommendations for similar games or similar kinks as the explored in this game, speculation over the next patch, sharing your favorite scene or moment and why you liked it beyond it being your kink, etc
 
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Expectations for the next scenes, wishlist for the next extra scenes (like the voyeur one), recommendations for similar games or similar kinks as the explored in this game, speculation over the next patch, sharing your favorite scene or moment and why you liked it beyond it being your kink, etc
So, circlejerking in a nutshell? i guess its appropriate given the nature of this forum. How about this? you discuss the positives and i discuss the things that keep me out of the circlejerk. In the case of this game, it is the writing, which i hope gets a massive overhaul at some point.

Edit: I had an afterthought, maybe i or somebody else uses the visuals of this game and does a unofficial rewrite, just to see what the game could be with good writing...
 
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So, circlejerking in a nutshell? i guess its appropriate given the nature of this forum. How about this? you discuss the positives and i discuss the things that keep me out of the circlejerk. In the case of this game, it is the writing, which i hope gets a massive overhaul at some point.

Edit: I had an afterthought, maybe i or somebody else uses the visuals of this game and does a unofficial rewrite, just to see what the game could be with good writing...
Bro you are free to discuss whatever your heart desires, and in the same vein i am free to laugh hysterically at you for analyzing the prose of a game where you assfuck a pig or a chicken. Thats the beauty of the internet.
 
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Yeah, imagine that... discussing the writing, worldbuilding ect. of a visual NOVEL... i am getting slightly annoyed with this attitude from people who apparently don't care about the Novel aspect and frame discussions about said aspect as the most retarded thing ever...
There are people who still haven't understood this, but. most people who play adult games don't watch adult content (porn). Just look, when developers add a certain type of porn plot to their games, players always get annoyed.

People who watch adult content (porn) and people who play games with adult content are totally different. Just look at the behavior of people who watch adult content (porn), They treat adult games like garbage porn, they don't care about the game's story.

For me, for example, when a game focuses more on sexual content, like simulators without any story, the game gets boring pretty quickly.

Edit:
I quoted the wrong post, considering that the developer of this game is a solo developer, it's totally understandable that the script isn't 10/10, but the script of this game isn't that bad if you compare it to other games.
 
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Victoria Side Sex & Small things

Heyy everyone! Here's what I did this past week after coming back from my trip!

I've gotta get the PSDs/Sketches out tonight or people might get locked out of accessing them before the new month, so I didn't have time to draw all the variants for this pic yet!
It'll have anal variants as well as some other hand positions/expressions for Victoria!
I will post that as well as some new stuff in 2 weeks.

I also drew a new pose for Billy where he's sort of patting down his own armor. I will use it whenever he talks about his armor.

And I drew some small Victoria things for when you enter her room. You'll ring her bell when you enter and she will poke her head in briefly before revealing her sexy outfit.

I think I have ~3 images left to draw for Chapter 10!
I'll try to get them all done now in November and make a proggress sheet!

Then I will have to build all the scenes and polish the dialogue and all that... So we're still looking at a fair while until the chapter is ready.
I don't think I will get it out before New Years. If you want to unpledge and re-pledge when it is ready then that is all good! There likely wont be ANY new art in December as I will then work solely on the tehnical game stuff.

Thank you for supporting!

Play the latest version of the game here :

It does NOT include this art content yet!
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"I slowly apply some pressure and prod Maple's anal opening with my tip-" uhm.. Anal opening? they mean anus right?...
You know, I think the main problem with a lot of writers.When it comes down to dialogue is that they don't read aloud. What they write.
Even if i'm engaging in kink play, I would never say that say that shit without hearing out of my mouth first.
 
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