KingSet

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Not gonna bother quoting posts but whoever kept playing the game and stuck with Elaine's route to this point was fine with her being a party hoe. But this type of blackmail rape plot is one of the laziest and most overdone choices for avn devs to sprinkle drama and make people feel bad for a LI. People are rightfully getting bored of the stuff. Doesn't make me pity Elaine, just makes me reload my older save and leave her to (not) solve her own problems. Another lazily written blackmail of one of the LIs and another case of MC just twisting their arm and making them pinky promise not to do it again. After it clearly didn't have any effect when he did it to the same guy in previous update.
 

Boehser Onkel

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sooo

playing again after some time and may ask :

what the fock is it with that forced mila stuff?
the mc is able to avoid every girl , but not her(at this point they met first)?

any clarification after why he is going "willingly" with her?
(and yeah , ik about the "promise" but thats no reason)
 

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If the constant rape and blackmail sob story going to continues to be used in VNs, the more the opposite effect it's going to have on people.

I don't feel pity, I feel Elaine is just retarded in this case.

Instead of going to the police, she just gave in to the blackmailers and for that, been getting gang banged and raped for this long, turning her into a nympho aka A WHORE. She is used up goods with loads of baggage with her, and the dev single handily killed her as a LI for a lot of people who don't want to deal with that shit.

It just gets worse with this shit involving Elaine and I am sure a good amount of people already jumped off her sinking ship so she can drown in her own foolishness.

Out of everything, it's always rape and blackmail in these situations. Not like any other thing can be used for this instead right?

This is a case of having drama just to have drama to get people to feel bad, and sorry for her, but this trope is so overused to the point it's having the opposite effect in this case and people are not feeling bad for her, they are going NOPE!

It's cheap and lazy.

Ah, the first thing that comes to a dev's mind with them wanting to add some unneeded and unnecessary drama that involves a LI, ruining them in the process:



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battali0n

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If the constant rape and blackmail sob story going to continues to be used in VNs, the more the opposite effect it's going to have on people.

I don't feel pity, I feel Elaine is just retarded in this case.

Instead of going to the police, she just gave in to the blackmailers and for that, been getting gang banged and raped for this long, turning her into a nympho aka A WHORE. She is used up goods with loads of baggage with her, and the dev single handily killed her as a LI for a lot of people who don't want to deal with that shit.

It just gets worse with this shit involving Elaine and I am sure a good amount of people already jumped off her sinking ship so she can drown in her own foolishness.

Out of everything, it's always rape and blackmail in these situations. Not like any other thing can be used for this instead right?

This is a case of having drama just to have drama to get people to feel bad, and sorry for her, but this trope is so overused to the point it's having the opposite effect in this case and people are not feeling bad for her, they are going NOPE!

It's cheap and lazy.

Ah, the first thing that comes to a dev's mind with them wanting to add some unneeded and unnecessary drama that involves a LI, ruining them in the process:



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This is the final nail in the coffin for me. This Visual Novel is ruined for me and I am leaving the sinking ship.
 

Simulacrum29

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should have had Elaine kick him in the nutzzz ..... :LOL::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::LOL::ROFLMAO:
she should have done that long before the game started, right the first time he approached her, to be honest never was a fan of Elaine she was way to pushy. but the last 3 updates have shown me that the game is not longer for me.

The worn out tropes and bullshit rape explanations make it hard to follow the story, because my eyes are rolled so far back into my head with annoyance that I can't see the screen anyway. It is a shame because it was a fairly good game for 2 years before dev tried everything to bury it with full force.
 

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she should have done that long before the game started, right the first time he approached her, to be honest never was a fan of Elaine she was way to pushy. but the last 3 updates have shown me that the game is not longer for me.

A) she was pretty much a victim of what he had been doing to her in the past ....

The worn out tropes and bullshit rape explanations make it hard to follow the story, because my eyes are rolled so far back into my head with annoyance that I can't see the screen anyway. It is a shame because it was a fairly good game for 2 years before dev tried everything to bury it with full force.

A) no rape that i've seen .. just a story from her past .....
 
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Simulacrum29

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if with past you mean the last in game week for a game that runs multiple weeks already then yes it happened in the past, all while she was pushing herself on the MC and threatened him with rape allegations when he didn't want to jump her bones, but she was incapable of going to the police for her real rapist, shows real plot consistency right here.

And nothing you said as any bearing of the fact that pretty much every game on this fucking side now needs a fucking rape victim Li, its fucking done to the moon and back, it is nothing new, it is nothing shocking, it is eyerolling boring, and done to death then revived, raped, tortured to death and then once again revived and done again. I'm fucking tired of it. It was stapled on to the story for cheap drama sake. Out of nowhere and contradictory to her earlier interactions.
 

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if with past you mean the last in game week for a game that runs multiple weeks already then yes it happened in the past, all while she was pushing herself on the MC and threatened him with rape allegations when he didn't want to jump her bones, but she was incapable of going to the police for her real rapist, shows real plot consistency right here.

And nothing you said as any bearing of the fact that pretty much every game on this fucking side now needs a fucking rape victim Li, its fucking done to the moon and back, it is nothing new, it is nothing shocking, it is eyerolling boring, and done to death then revived, raped, tortured to death and then once again revived and done again. I'm fucking tired of it. It was stapled on to the story for cheap drama sake. Out of nowhere and contradictory to her earlier interactions.
look what Elaine was talking about was in her past ... not the game past updates .... like it all happened before the game started :)

as far as rape goes , sorry but truth be told .. it happens more often than you think (y)
 

Simulacrum29

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look what Elaine was talking about was in her past ... not the game past updates .... like it all happened before the game started :)
she should have done that long before the game started, right the first time he approached her, to be honest never was a fan of Elaine she was way to pushy. but the last 3 updates have shown me that the game is not longer for me.

A) she was pretty much a victim of what he had been doing to her in the past ....

The worn out tropes and bullshit rape explanations make it hard to follow the story, because my eyes are rolled so far back into my head with annoyance that I can't see the screen anyway. It is a shame because it was a fairly good game for 2 years before dev tried everything to bury it with full force.

A) no rape that i've seen .. just a story from her past .....
as far as rape goes , sorry but truth be told .. it happens more often than you think (y)
if with past you mean the last in game week for a game that runs multiple weeks already then yes it happened in the past, all while she was pushing herself on the MC and threatened him with rape allegations when he didn't want to jump her bones, but she was incapable of going to the police for her real rapist, shows real plot consistency right here.

And nothing you said as any bearing of the fact that pretty much every game on this fucking side now needs a fucking rape victim Li, its fucking done to the moon and back, it is nothing new, it is nothing shocking, it is eyerolling boring, and done to death then revived, raped, tortured to death and then once again revived and done again. I'm fucking tired of it. It was stapled on to the story for cheap drama sake. Out of nowhere and contradictory to her earlier interactions.

And victim? get the fuck out of here she did it to her self.
She could have kicked him in the balls the first time around, her parents could have filled for bankruptcy and leave their "friends" high and dry with nothing. But she did it because she didn't want trouble for her parents what trouble? Go to the fucking police and end their live.
 
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Simulacrum29

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i'm done ... you need to understand ... she was talking about her past .. fuck it .. never ... i'm done
you clearly didnt read what happend last update because you where to absorbed in jerking of to the MC beating up the rapist, so your brain probably got not enough blood, but there Elaine clearly states that the last rape happened in the week before, which places it right in the game and not some distant past.

Edit:i hope you are a greatful ImperialD because of you I redownloaded the game to give you some sauce
as some say a picture says more then thousand words, right before the choice to save Elaine
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And even if its her past the time frame has literally nothing to do with any point I made.
 
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I didn't like the attempted rape and details of Elaine's past from the last part but I was willing to get over it. This update kinda made things worse and ended up killing Elaine as a LI entirely for me. I get that she was supposed to come off kinda loose but I didn't think it would end up being this extreme.

For years as an adult she was living in a house where she was raped a lot...and then apparently got gang banged a bunch and it somehow turned her into a nympho....? I was kinda annoyed when she mentioned she had a threesome before but I didn't expect it to be that bad. I'm confused why this went so dark and why she stayed where she was despite being an adult.

I admit she was my least fav but this really made it worse for me, that's a lot of baggage I didn't want. I could have probably lived with the guy having raped her a few times but that was until she doubled down and told me she was often gang banged and it somehow made her enjoy the sex enough to become a nympho. I've been playing this since the start but I'm sad to say this plotline may have killed my interest in going further.
 
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