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Chapter 1 ends with a cliffhanger on the MC talking about his fetish, chapter 2 cops out and talks about feet. As if the other AI NTS games weren't slowburn enough.
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I saw those inconsistency too, but it wasn't something I would point out to any of the developers using AI, why well myself I also made mods for other games with real life looking AI and even there it sometimes impossible not to have some inconsistency if use more then one different picture for the same avatar, the only way to avoid that is by drawing them yourself like a cartoon, but then you have even more work and can't deliver content fast enough, so yes AI is often a better solution and just have to fix things like 6 finger hands and such. Anyway, it really didn't bother me at all as your work is very well done, there developers that not fix those AI mistakes at all or only once the audience point them out.Thank you for the compliments, I appreciate it, and I'm glad you're enjoying the game so far
As for the 'art style inconsistency'... well, I honestly don't know what to say. You're the first person to mention this, while dozens of others have praised the art style
AI has its clear flaws, and one of them is inconsistency. With all due respect, maybe you're expecting too much from the current technology. I could also spend five times more time on each image trying to fix inconsistencies, but I don't think that would be a good idea...
Just as an example, I want to show some of the inevitable inconsistencies in AI art from two GREAT games where I know the developers invest hours into creating high-quality images (I love those games BTW [and I know you do too!]). And no, these aren't even the worst inconsistencies in those games, but I won’t go around exposing those kinds of flaws
I could also mention a HUGE (like, huge huge) 2D hand-drawn game that has 'inconsistencies' in its character designs, but I won't do it because I'd be starting a war
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Before that, I need to say again that I follow your game, I'm not a hater, I'm a follower
These two are really very different from each other
Three or four arts of the FMC also had this problem
I brought this up because I saw you were looking for feedback. This could make the game better
I also need to say that I've only played a small amount of the second update, I haven't had a chance to play the rest yet. Maybe this problem doesn't exist in the second update
If this only problem is solved, or at least doesn't happen in the future, your game can be placed alongside the top AI-driven games because it has many strengths
The fact that no one has pointed out a flaw so far doesn't mean it doesn't exist. My words are not important as well, the reality is important. And my friend, the art style is not a problem, it's completely satisfactory. I was talking about a problem in a small number of arts, not the art style itself
I've played a lot of AI-driven games and I know that it's unavoidable to some extent, but this small number of your art pieces is a moderate flaw. I haven't seen such a thing in, for example, "My New Girlfriend", I say that this problem only exists in a small number of art pieces, the rest of your art has no problem at all. Below is an example where in the first one, the MC looks like a dangerous street fighter, and in the second one, he appears baby-faced
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Three or four arts of the FMC also had this problem
I brought this up because I saw you were looking for feedback. This could make the game better
I also need to say that I've only played a small amount of the second update, I haven't had a chance to play the rest yet. Maybe this problem doesn't exist in the second update
If this only problem is solved, or at least doesn't happen in the future, your game can be placed alongside the top AI-driven games because it has many strengths
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I'm glad you like his work and not a hater, I saw that too that the face was more serious and then more femine the next, but like i said it didn't bother me, so long the clothing is the same, the hairstyle is the same, the eye colors are the same and there no mistakes like 6 fingers and out of range long arms and such. Probably could be fixed but takes more work. Large gaming companies wouldn't have those problems basicly because many people work on graphics and it split the work over them. But small companies or one man developer doesn't have that kind resource.
two chapters in and MC hasn't even admitted to having a cuck/NTS/sharing fetish yet lol
fans of endless-NTS-teasing-that-goes-nowhere are living in a golden age of blue balls, everywhere you look on f95 there's an exciting new game where nothing ever actually happens
I hope this changes. Idk why we can't have a nice introduction and then get straight to action, that reminds me of a game that I already forgot the name. It had a hotwife with tan lines and we got month after month, even years just for some handjob and blowjob scenes, tons of new characters coming, and in the end ''abandoned'' tag. This game has so much potential for hot scenes, involving the GF, the mom and many others characters. Scenes involving Swinging, voyeurism, threesomes, phone content. In my opinion, slowburn followed by constant teasing will only get in the way and delay the appearance of these scenes. But of course, loved this game, the premise, story and the characters, hope the Dev can have a nice progress on it.
There are games out there that suite more your interests, i'm sure, those japanese ntr/nts stories would please you more then, where it non stop NTR/NTS from start to end. I personaly preffer build up and have somewhat a story behind it, if i wanted a quick release i would just watch some porn or have fun with my boy. DTZ Games, delivers a good vn and I'll support him in it.
I don’t know if this is a kink for, but it seems you discovered this website yesterday and ever since then in every thread i follow i see you talking about your boyfriend.
I am all for gender equality and i would be laughing my ass off if i saw a dude constantly reminding others that he has a gf. So same applies to you.
I know I do that, but it some habbit i've gotten from playing mmo games, you wouldn't know how many perverts play there, the minute you tell them you're a woman, they don't stop hitting on you, so yes I love to remind people i'm already taken. Also I love to read stories that somewhat feel real and compare them with my lifestyle with my bf, they don't need to be happened real ofcourse, fiction is real fun to read. It just i'm tired of all those brainless soaps and books and games that have no sense and feel written by someone smoking something bad.
But i'm sure i don't do it every thread, mostly if talking about themes I tend to do that, when talking about the game, I try to keep it to positive and negatives of that game, but often people tend to derail the conversation talking about tags on the VN.
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I see that and i hope i didn’t offend you. I am just simply saying this is usually a man behavior which i find quite laughable. Most of the times they do it for validation, like “Hey i might be here too but unlike you losers i have a partner!”. But in your case i guess it makes sense.
Don't worry i'm not so easy offended, it was a valid question and you respected it.
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Thank you so much! My current setup and overall art style are more feminine, and believe it or not, it's kinda hard to create male characters. I've just made a LoRa for the MC, but it still has some flaws.
Still, I'll probably try to improve things in Chapter 03.
Fun fact: When I prompt '1boy, male, gym, lifting weights...' I often end up with this kind of image. Tough, isn't it?
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Least we know that AI isn't still ready to rule the world, like some doomsayers fear. But yea, AI can make amazing real pictures but also create amazing creepy abominations.
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I absolutely appreciate the feedback, and I didn't mean to offend! (In fact, I wrote a longer message because your concern might be shared by many others). I agree that, when comparing the two images, the MC does look quite different. In my previous message, I mentioned how difficult it is to create the MC and male characters in general
Before continuing with Chapter 03, I'll fix these issues. In my mind, it wasn't something that impactful...
That said, I have to disagree with you and point out that this kind of inconsistency does appear in other games, such as MNGF. I literally sent the images. Maybe not specifically the feminization of the MC, but other consistency errors do exist
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The greatest strength of AI is PRETENDING that it created a good image in a very short time. AI is like a magician. It tricks the viewer. (Speaking only about image generation.)
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From working with Circle and from my own project and I believe yours is similar in a way. The lora set up that Circle uses is a lot more colorful than ours. The characters, environments, everything pops out that tad bit more, which makes it actually pretty difficult to spot those inconsistencies that you mentioned, as it doesn't have that generic AI feel to them. When you use a lora setup that is a tad more bland, like mine and yours, those inconsistencies do pop out a bit more...
However compared to some... other games I won't mention here, they are so minor that I wouldn't worry too much about them or spend too much time on them.
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Yeah, like... people were starving for Chapter 02, so I wanted to get it done ASAP. I spent countless late nights working on the game. This chapter was huge. Over 5000 lines of code, new artwork, new characters, a community to manage, animations introduced, the phone system implemented… all of that during the end-of-year period, which is when I’m busiest at my IRL job
In the end, I’m just one person! But now, thanks to the community, I’m getting to know people who can help me