VN Ren'Py My True Desire [v0.4.5] [DTZ Games]

[VoyeurRed]

Chp3 style is best IMO

chap.3 and 4 so far are amazing looking....not that i hated the 1st two's style....but yeah chap.3 just had that pop to it that nothing else has

 

[Yougiblack]

chap.3 and 4 so far are amazing looking....not that i hated the 1st two's style....but yeah chap.3 just had that pop to it that nothing else has

Exactly, chp4 got bit more cartoonish but chp3 had its unique characteristic style I'd prefer the game to stick to chp3s style really

 

[ChibraxMax]

Peak.

 

[mrmmmmmmmmm]

when is the realise of Version 0.4.5?

 

[DTZ Games]

when is the realise of Version 0.4.5?

Ill start the release within the next 8 days

 

[DTZ Games]

For those waiting for the next update, I just made a

You must be registered to see the links

with all the information about it and much more. I recommend everyone take a look!

 

[ashikabi_98]

Not sure if this has been answered in the past, or there was a public post talked about this on Patreon. I have two questions for the dev.

1. How many chapters this story is going to have?

2. If it's a lot, will Ana's corruption be super slow if the Chapter goes up to for example Chapter 10? Like the penetration from other people for Ana will be slow (maybe Chapter 6 or 7 is the starting to point and the rest is her trying more that relates to more), and we're gonna have chapters that does teasing due to like you said Ana's only fetish is Blowjobs and nothing more.

- Of course you can answer this vaguely to not spoil upcoming content. If roadmap hasn't been done.

Extra thoughts: I know there's not gonna be cheating, unless a lot wants it. Honestly for me, I know would want it if this is a slow burn that really delivers when that moment hit. Cause after that scene seeing the loving Ana just forget the MC kinda fun and thrilling after a fun slow sharing journey.

 

[What's Up Doc?]

The wait time is too long just for a rework and not any further progression in the story

 

[FRVN]

The wait time is too long just for a rework and not any new further progression in the story

It's been two months since the last release. If that's too long for you, then most games on this site would disappoint you.

 

[What's Up Doc?]

It's been two months since the last release. If that's too long for you, then most games on this site would disappoint you.

Hmm... I think you should try to understand what I wrote better before replying... Two or three months(we can't call it 2 since it's not released yet) is good for a new satisfying content update, not for a rework. Adding the time we'll wait for this rework to the time we'll wait for the new story update will probably give us a total of something around 6 months. Which isn't good.

 

[FRVN]

Hmm... I think you should try to understand what you read better before replying... Two or three months(we can't call it 2 since it's not released yet) is good for a new satisfying content update, not for a rework. Adding the time we'll wait for this rework to the time we'll wait for the new story update will probably give us a total of something around 6 months. Which isn't good.

I understood what you wrote; you're impatient.

 

[maiie]

Oh man… I could talk about this for hours, haha!

On image creation:
This is area has changed a LOT, and honestly still changes all the time. Overnight I might discover or a new tech might launch that completely changes my workflow and the quality of the renders

When I first started generating MTD's images, my workflow looked like this:

Spoiler: Old workflow (TXT2IMG)

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

Now it looks more like this:

Spoiler: New workflow (TXT2IMG)

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

Most of the time, I start with txt2img until I get a decent result. If I need something really specific, I either cut things out in Photoshop and run them through img2img, or sometimes use depth from an existing image (though that's rare)

After that comes Photoshop and inpainting until I reach the result I want, then I upscale. It sounds simple when written down, but the process is usually very time-consuming

But one thing that hasn't changed much is how I see sprites and scenes. For me, the game's structure works like this:

BG + sprites: calm moments focused on dialogue and storytelling. These are not meant to be very impactful visually (even though many sprites and backgrounds look really good)

Illustrations (renders/scenes): impactful moments with strong visual appeal. The full focus here is on creating the best possible image, something that really catches the player's eye
I try not to move too far away from this format, even though sometimes I feel tempted

Spoiler: On writing:

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

Did you train LoRAs for every unique character?

 

[DTZ Games]

Not sure if this has been answered in the past, or there was a public post talked about this on Patreon. I have two questions for the dev.

1. How many chapters this story is going to have?

2. If it's a lot, will Ana's corruption be super slow if the Chapter goes up to for example Chapter 10? Like the penetration from other people for Ana will be slow (maybe Chapter 6 or 7 is the starting to point and the rest is her trying more that relates to more), and we're gonna have chapters that does teasing due to like you said Ana's only fetish is Blowjobs and nothing more.

- Of course you can answer this vaguely to not spoil upcoming content. If roadmap hasn't been done.

Extra thoughts: I know there's not gonna be cheating, unless a lot wants it. Honestly for me, I know would want it if this is a slow burn that really delivers when that moment hit. Cause after that scene seeing the loving Ana just forget the MC kinda fun and thrilling after a fun slow sharing journey.

Hey man! Don't worry about it. We talk about so many things that some messages get buried

Answer 1 - I used to say "around 15 chapters". But today, if I had to sum it up in one sentence, I'd say "as many chapters as necessary"

You know those shows where season 1 is amazing, season 2 is great, season 3 starts going off the rails… and by season 9 it's complete garbage? Yeah… that's exactly what I DON'T want!

But at the same time, I also don't want to leave the story feeling incomplete or with that "I want more" frustration

And answer 1 kind of also answers number 2… I don't know when it'll happen, but when it does, I want it to feel natural and follow the slow progression the characters are having

 

[DTZ Games]

Hmm... I think you should try to understand what I wrote better before replying... Two or three months(we can't call it 2 since it's not released yet) is good for a new satisfying content update, not for a rework. Adding the time we'll wait for this rework to the time we'll wait for the new story update will probably give us a total of something around 6 months. Which isn't good.

I understand the frustration, and honestly, I wish I could just snap my fingers and have the rework done, but unfortunately that's not possible

From my point of view, saying that two months is enough for new content is like saying ten minutes is enough to cook a meal. If you're making instant noodles, I agree with you. But if you want a quality dish, you've got to let the chef cook!

A LOT of new stuff was added in this update, and I'm sure it's going to raise the project's quality to another level and enhance the players' experience from here on out. I really hope everyone enjoys it

PS: What's the game that has a two-month gap between updates? I'm genuinely curious (not being ironic)

 

[DTZ Games]

Did you train LoRAs for every unique character?

In the first two chapters, I didn't (which is why the characters were super inconsistent)

After that, I trained a LoRA for each character, and it got a lot better

Now I've trained them again, and the consistency improved even more

There are still some inconsistencies, of course (after all, it's AI). But it's looking really good

 

[yamamoto0413]

Well I said 2-3 months is good. And to be honest, this is an AI game, so it's not good at all that you take 4 months to produce story updates. Especially considering that the updates are fairly short and containing only vanilla content. There are 3D CG developers who produce more content in that amount of time.

The last update was released in August, took 4 months, and had no ntr/nts content. The next update is just a rework, with no new story content, and we don't know when it will be released. And after that, we will have to wait at least another 4 months for the new story update. So we are waiting 10 months in the hope of seeing the kind of content we want.

That's honestly not good man. You're taking too long to cook.

I'm going to disagree here.

I mean, yeah, faster updates would be cool, but I think you're downplaying the updates. While they aren't super big, and sure the art is AI, the art itself is really well polished. Personally I'd say it's the best of the AI art I've seen, and that takes time to make sure it's up to standards.

As for the slow progression of the story, this is an issue mentioned in literally every ntr/nts game I have checked out, and I just don't get it. If you want to play a game with that content, either pick something with a naturally faster progression, or something that's been out longer. These types of games are good because of the build up, and skimping out on it to get into the lewd stuff makes the game worse as a whole. MTD has been doing a really good job I find of building this up.

Even more, DTZ has been transparent with this stuff. On Patreon the rework was mentioned well before the last update release and I'm fairly sure it was mentioned here as well. In addition, it was also discussed how the first four updates were the introduction. Starting with Chapter 5, you can expect more lewd content, because by now we're at the point where MC has revealed his kink to Ana, learned about it himself, and the two are beginning to lean into it with the sex scene to finish off the last chapter. Moving forward it makes logical sense that a lot of what's been hinted at is going to start happening.

 

[ashikabi_98]

I understand the frustration, and honestly, I wish I could just snap my fingers and have the rework done, but unfortunately that's not possible

From my point of view, saying that two months is enough for new content is like saying ten minutes is enough to cook a meal. If you're making instant noodles, I agree with you. But if you want a quality dish, you've got to let the chef cook!

A LOT of new stuff was added in this update, and I'm sure it's going to raise the project's quality to another level and enhance the players' experience from here on out. I really hope everyone enjoys it

PS: What's the game that has a two-month gap between updates? I'm genuinely curious (not being ironic)

I can relate to 1st and 2nd paragraph 100%. I tried to do my own game, cause I was the type of person that think. "why are the updates are taking so long, it's just on ren'py and AI art".

I tried making a game myself, bro I gave up 50% of the way and that's only writing and coding, cause it was so annoying and takes too much time for me at least. Like I keep on revising my writing cause I kept on seeing flaws and that takes so much time, and then the coding, learning it from scratch for ren'py atleast. Jesus. And I haven't even started on AI art yet and that was already too much for me.

And that opened my eyes real wide on this matter. For quality updates like you mention it does take time and will always be worth it since you put your heart and soul on this project. Which is why I always say that the developers can take as much time as they need as long as it's reasonable. Like actually working on the game and polishing the quality to reach beyond expectations. But if it's delay for so long cause their lazy and no WIP updates and stayed radio silent but still charge monthly on Patreon, that's where I draw the line on my being considerate towards the developers.

 

[Blank2002]

PS: What's the game that has a two-month gap between updates? I'm genuinely curious (not being ironic)

There are some like Nyatorase, Vulgar Reverie, College of Mysteria and SOA. I think those game are created by group and has a team to back up the production.

 

[DTZ Games]

I agree 100%. It’s a little ridiculous at this point. Would have been better if he focused on chapter 5, just seems like he’s milking for chapter 4.5 with KO story progression, no one wants to see a rework

I can relate to 1st and 2nd paragraph 100%. I tried to do my own game, cause I was the type of person that think. "why are the updates are taking so long, it's just on ren'py and AI art".

I tried making a game myself, bro I gave up 50% of the way and that's only writing and coding, cause it was so annoying and takes too much time for me at least. Like I keep on revising my writing cause I kept on seeing flaws and that takes so much time, and then the coding, learning it from scratch for ren'py atleast. Jesus. And I haven't even started on AI art yet and that was already too much for me.

And that opened my eyes real wide on this matter. For quality updates like you mention it does take time and will always be worth it since you put your heart and soul on this project. Which is why I always say that the developers can take as much time as they need as long as it's reasonable. Like actually working on the game and polishing the quality to reach beyond expectations. But if it's delay for so long cause their lazy and no WIP updates and stayed radio silent but still charge monthly on Patreon, that's where I draw the line on my being considerate towards the developers.

The time I spent on the other message, I should've invested in yours...

But I'm glad you took action and at least tried to do something

People see "Ren'Py + AI CG" and think it's something easy and trivial, but they forget that the OVERWHELMING majority of AI-made games on this platform are awful and forgotten. How many times have you seen a game with the "AI CG" tag, looked at it, laughed because of the terrible images, and just moved on? I'd love to name a few examples, but that would be unethical

And I only started the DTZ Games project because back then, I looked at the games being released and thought to myself: I can do better

And honestly? I truly hope that everyone who's criticizing not only me but others as well has the same mindset I had. You think you can make a better game than mine? Then go ahead and do it! In the end, I'm still a consumer. You'll probably see another +$5 from DTZ Games every month

 

[cryfane]

Adding a bit here as well, I've been playing your game silently for the past 4 updates and I gotta say it has a lot of potential and every chapter gets me more into it than the other, the pacing is great as well. Not so fast and not too slow.

Keep the good work DTZ, you clearly have a lot of quality at making this.

I'm delaying a rating until the NTS properly starts, but so far I'm aiming for a top score.