icollectsouls
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I had already touched on one part of the "issue" of "seemingly-half of the girl x (dick)girl scenes are vore-based" before, which was the fact that some of the aforementioned scenes just felt out-of-place/random/unfitting for the enemy/boss in question, and the dwarf girl is only adding to that.
But another gripe that I have with it, is the fact that it seems to be only the feminine enemies that have these vore scenes. I'm not even saying I want to see male-pred fem-prey stuff, but it does irritate me that if they were to show an upcoming enemy with a masculine or creature-like appearance, it'd be practically guaranteed that it wouldn't be vore. Meanwhile the idle previews for the feminine enemies come up and it's like an invitation to bet on whether or not the cute girl is going to engulf Maya (the player character) into some orifice.
But another gripe that I have with it, is the fact that it seems to be only the feminine enemies that have these vore scenes. I'm not even saying I want to see male-pred fem-prey stuff, but it does irritate me that if they were to show an upcoming enemy with a masculine or creature-like appearance, it'd be practically guaranteed that it wouldn't be vore. Meanwhile the idle previews for the feminine enemies come up and it's like an invitation to bet on whether or not the cute girl is going to engulf Maya (the player character) into some orifice.
kingmich
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the fox girl makes a futa scene and thats rare futa without vore i mean
but honestly it just.. everything u could had done with a dwarf girl.. oral vore its just why that heck it could had been other futa scene or a other yuri scene but no vore
1st thing comes to mind someone pay for that scene alone i guess?
icollectsouls
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Well, as far as the feminine enemies/bosses with non-vore scenes go, there's:
- Kitsunes
- Bat girls
- Arachnes
- Futa ghosts
Meanwhile, the feminine enemies with vore scenes are:
- Alraune boss
- Minotaur boss
- Lizardwomen
- Mushroom futas
- Lamia
- Dark fairies
- The regular fairies' animations aren't considered vore by the settings, but they are very close to a full "unbirthing" insertion so they half-count?
- that random Mimic/furry in the chest in town whose vore animation will play even if you have it disabled in settings
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Or it's the author's fetish:
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Again, not my cup of tea, but considering they took 4 posts to explain about their old vore videos, I'd say this is a big fetish of the author.
I mean, here's one of the videos. Does this look kind of familiar?
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Allegedly being a Patreon supporter lets you vote in the polls for new enemies... the last poll was in uh... December last year?
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Was there a non-vore option? I dunno, not a Patreon. A Patreon user could go back to look at previous polls and whether the options were between vore and not vore; it's possible that the Patreon users may be given the option to choose between vore and not vore, and they're voting for vore... or... perhaps they don't get to choose whether a particular character/enemy is vore or not, and it's left to the author to decide.
It'd be neat to get some non-vore options for a lot of these unusual vore characters, but y'know, that'd probably be a thing the author did later. I mean given the choice, is the author going to push a non-vore animation for older enemies, or add new enemies to a new area? The latter is more forward movement on content.
Edit: Actually here's the rules for the poll system. Looks to be user submitted.
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Ironfoot
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The voting system is discriminative af. I believe because the developer started with vore videos the vore lovers found him first and they are supporting him with more money nowadays so they have the voting power even if they are fewer now then non-vore lovers. They paying him more money, they have the power what enemies are going to be the next. This is not how a voting works.
It sounds like a pretty good system as losing fetishes keep get a bonus for the next poll.
How dumb normal voting fares when you do not do something like this you can see when you look a LifePlay. It's basically the same ~7 kinks that always win.
Ha, well guess I should have expected to see some discourse around vore here as well. Seems to just come with liking the fetish. It's kinda funny, but I tend to see it kinkshamed more in forums like this rather than regular places where it's just "cringe material". So...I guess funny in a sad kind of way.
Also, for that voting, yeah, there's 3 different support levels that have different impacts on the voting, but you can't have more than what the max support will give you. So like even if you're supporting with $25 a month, your vote will still only be worth as much as someone who's supporting $10 a month. Plus, you can vote for multiple options, so it's all over the place really. Along with the aforementioned boosted voting power the non-winning choices get.
Speaking of different scenes for current enemies, I do remember the dev saying they wanted to give different scenes to enemies in the future, so that's cool. But I think they're just focusing on getting new enemies, stages, etc. right now to progress the game out of the alpha.
Oh before anyone thinks it, no, I'm not the dev. I've just been supporting their game for...well, since it started. I'd be happy to try and answer anyone's questions about it if they want, though, to the best of my ability.
Also, for that voting, yeah, there's 3 different support levels that have different impacts on the voting, but you can't have more than what the max support will give you. So like even if you're supporting with $25 a month, your vote will still only be worth as much as someone who's supporting $10 a month. Plus, you can vote for multiple options, so it's all over the place really. Along with the aforementioned boosted voting power the non-winning choices get.
Speaking of different scenes for current enemies, I do remember the dev saying they wanted to give different scenes to enemies in the future, so that's cool. But I think they're just focusing on getting new enemies, stages, etc. right now to progress the game out of the alpha.
Oh before anyone thinks it, no, I'm not the dev. I've just been supporting their game for...well, since it started. I'd be happy to try and answer anyone's questions about it if they want, though, to the best of my ability.
I know it's kinda rude to come into the vore guy's house and tell him to not put vore in his game, but I really do hope one day there'll be non vore alt animations for the vore enemies
Yeah, I do agree with you. And that sounds like it'd be really nice, but you gotta be careful with that wish, cause it could go monkey's paw on you, and then the non-vore enemies would get vore animations. Which...well, I'd be in favor of that as well, but given the mood around here, I can tell that's probably an unpopular decision, if it happened.
kingmich
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like im fine with vore (at least non death thing but that seems rare/ a sin to vore fans?) but it just felt like a waste to do soo much vore with all things u could do i thought it was just people paying tons of money to get what scenes they want (hence like seed of dead 2 having some gore death scenes level and heck even ntr in it people wanted that badly it seems) or like how people pay tons of alot money for furry stuff
but i did look into his 1st game remember seeing some pink hair goth chick somehow have vore in that so ya idk im not going go out of my way and say "he bad steal his work and make better game" bull crap but i guess i just wish there was more non-vore stuff? at least hes working on making that alone but as DudePersonA said it is his fetish.
i'm going sound like im going on a rant so sorry on that.
but i did look into his 1st game remember seeing some pink hair goth chick somehow have vore in that so ya idk im not going go out of my way and say "he bad steal his work and make better game" bull crap but i guess i just wish there was more non-vore stuff? at least hes working on making that alone but as DudePersonA said it is his fetish.
i'm going sound like im going on a rant so sorry on that.
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I used to be much much more into vore but not very much now. I see there is an option to enable instant game-over with vore, but I have it disabled, so I was disappointed when I saw that letting the vore animation play out still resulted in instant game-over and I was hoping more you could have it continue looping on the last frame with higher damage values until you lost all your health rather than have it be instant end.
Also fuck that box cat that instant game overs you when you hit the interact button especially when its right next to a switch, whats that supposed to be some kind of funny joke?
Anyway beside that this is one of my new favorite games, really well handling, feels like a real game and not a solo indie project, the level design is really elaborate and the animations and options are great. I love in-game sprite sex and the fetish selection options are a good idea. They were in this dev's first game too, the pixie garden game and I remember saying years ago on another website that was a nice feature. I'll be watching this very closely.
Oh also I was sad that the werewolf boss animation doesn't have internal but I guess that will be added eventually, also sad that letting it play out is another instant game-over, but I do like the ridiculous amounts of cum he produces.
Also fuck that box cat that instant game overs you when you hit the interact button especially when its right next to a switch, whats that supposed to be some kind of funny joke?
Anyway beside that this is one of my new favorite games, really well handling, feels like a real game and not a solo indie project, the level design is really elaborate and the animations and options are great. I love in-game sprite sex and the fetish selection options are a good idea. They were in this dev's first game too, the pixie garden game and I remember saying years ago on another website that was a nice feature. I'll be watching this very closely.
Oh also I was sad that the werewolf boss animation doesn't have internal but I guess that will be added eventually, also sad that letting it play out is another instant game-over, but I do like the ridiculous amounts of cum he produces.
I mean yeah as someone who isn't a fan of vore I see it and go "meh". At least it's "soft vore" or whatever mostly.
I think though it's less an issue that the vore is there, and more an issue of setting expectations. Like, the author or a bunch of patreon voters pushing things towards more vore is okay. It's their time and money.
But I think if you look at, say, the OP for this thread... you don't get the impression that there's an outsized amount of vore in this game. Even looking at the
I think it'd be better if both the OP in this thread and the game's landing page on the author's blog were more vocal in noting that vore has outsized representation in the game. Then people know what they're getting into.
I think though it's less an issue that the vore is there, and more an issue of setting expectations. Like, the author or a bunch of patreon voters pushing things towards more vore is okay. It's their time and money.
But I think if you look at, say, the OP for this thread... you don't get the impression that there's an outsized amount of vore in this game. Even looking at the
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, the listing has soft vore way down there, which may give the impression that it's a minor component to the game.I think it'd be better if both the OP in this thread and the game's landing page on the author's blog were more vocal in noting that vore has outsized representation in the game. Then people know what they're getting into.
Ironfoot
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I don't understand why the dev didn't do the "only vore" game if he is that big fan of it. Teasing non-vore lovers to pay money for non-vore scenes and overwhelm non-vore scenes with vore ones. I don't mind if the game has vore but (It's an alternative animation idea) if the enemy swallows the MC then tentacles fuck her inside the enemy. This is the only vore type animation I like in games.
icollectsouls
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Yeah, my issue isn't so much that "vore is in the game, the dev and paying fans have it as a fetish" - that's perfectly understandable and fine. My personal gripes are:
- I knew there was going to be vore from the outset, but I was personally expecting it to mainly be relegated to the "creature" enemies, something that I could reasonably assume would be the predator like a big snake or frog or something. Instead, none of the creatures have vore and it's all dumped on the feminine enemies/bosses.
- Even expecting that some of the (dick)girl enemies/bosses would be vore-based, the fact that over half of them (7/12) are the game's only source of vore feels... unfair?
- To elaborate on the "unfair" feeling, people who're playing it to see the animations of Maya getting fucked by creatures and dudes don't have to "worry" that the bee enemy is going to shove Maya into one of its orifices or something. But if you were drawn into the game by the promise of girl x (dick)girl scenes, you only get... five enemies that aren't vore. Though I personally think the regular fairy's animation is just a little too... "vore-reminiscent" for me to enjoy.
- Even expecting that some of the (dick)girl enemies/bosses would be vore-based, the fact that over half of them (7/12) are the game's only source of vore feels... unfair?
- The setting for "soft vore" and "absorption" are the same thing to disable, so even if I can get past the vore animations because I like seeing a lady with a big stuffed belly or whatever, I don't particularly like the "absorption" scenes.
- Especially when both of the absorption scenes are cock-vore animations where the main character just... loses her fucking life by being turned into cum.
- There were alternate animations for enemies if you were using the content filtering system, and it could apply to more than just the vore stuff too. Don't want to see the transformation stuff with that grounded plant enemy? That's fine, it'll just be a tentacle sex scene or something instead.
- Obviously though, some of the filters wouldn't work with "alternate" scenes, like... you couldn't disable [insect, creature] and try to see an alternate sex scene for the forest bugs or whatever.
- One could argue that this wouldn't exactly be "productive" or "content-forward" but I disagree. It's still adding more content to the game, just expanding on stuff that's already there and giving more options to the player.
- That being said, I do understand that processes like this can hit a point where no new content is added because the dev is too busy adding onto old stuff. Just requires a sense of development balance to make things work.
- The vore scenes weren't only on the (dick)girls. Seriously, even if I don't want to see vore, my disappointment surrounding it would be severely diminished if other enemies/bosses also had vore or vore-like scenes. The slime, for example, could easily have an animation where it grows bigger and engulfs Maya, possibly fucking her as she's inside it or something.
- (Which is kind of weird, but I guess the point is that the game would feel far less one-sided or unbalanced in terms of the vore?)
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Oh come on now...
I leave for like a weekend or so...
& I come back to 2 full pages of nick picks from one fetish.
... Well ok fine I'm not completely innocent myself I do have 2... (Not being able to actually see the interior of the treasure chest & know how exactly she's being vored by the wolf girl & the mushroom girl's whole automatically "poofed inside"... instead of actually seeing her go inside... feels like it skipped the good bits, honestly pre & post "vore" should be clarified via tag, I mean seriously! Vore is what was promised! Come on!)
(THERE! with that out of my system...)
It's his vision, it's his preference, it's his game, it's his process & it's his hard work yada-yada etc etc. & therefore? Ultimately? It's his decision.
All of this can't really be motivating, for him, or anyone really...
It's a vore game with some yummy on the side, same was the first one, what ya see is what ya get.
That said?
All criticism is legitimate I guess, & I'm relatively confident he might just be welcoming all of it, so as to use it for his own game's improvement... you know... I'm GUESSING... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Let the artist do his craft, enjoy what you have, can't wait for the next update & Peace!! I'm out for another week or so!!
I leave for like a weekend or so...
& I come back to 2 full pages of nick picks from one fetish.
... Well ok fine I'm not completely innocent myself I do have 2... (Not being able to actually see the interior of the treasure chest & know how exactly she's being vored by the wolf girl & the mushroom girl's whole automatically "poofed inside"... instead of actually seeing her go inside... feels like it skipped the good bits, honestly pre & post "vore" should be clarified via tag, I mean seriously! Vore is what was promised! Come on!)
(THERE! with that out of my system...)
It's his vision, it's his preference, it's his game, it's his process & it's his hard work yada-yada etc etc. & therefore? Ultimately? It's his decision.
All of this can't really be motivating, for him, or anyone really...
It's a vore game with some yummy on the side, same was the first one, what ya see is what ya get.
That said?
All criticism is legitimate I guess, & I'm relatively confident he might just be welcoming all of it, so as to use it for his own game's improvement... you know... I'm GUESSING... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Let the artist do his craft, enjoy what you have, can't wait for the next update & Peace!! I'm out for another week or so!!
Wow, lots of complaints for a well done and animated game. You folks just cannot be pleased at all.
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Except nowhere is the game advertised or described as such, in any official capacity. Vore is listed as one of the fetishes on just about every site the dev put the game up on, but it's just one of several fetishes both advertised and implemented in-game. The "fan signature" gif meant to advertise the game doesn't show vore, and you won't even see a vore animation in-game until you get to the alraune boss (Young Mother). All the enemies up to that point are of the "getting fucked by a creature" variety, so if one had to base expectations on the first minutes of gameplay, you'd think that would be what the game would focus on.
Hell, there's only about seven vore animations in the game while the non-vore content outnumbers it a fair bit. My complaints about vore's presence only arise because of how it's included. I'm sure I'll be sounding like a broken record with this, but with my interest in the game primarily coming from the mention of girl x (dick)girl scenes, and how well-done they were in Pixie Panic Garden, it's personally disappointing that the majority of those scenes in this game are vore.
So ultimately, I think there's a weird disconnect between what the game advertises itself as, what's actually in the game, and what people are expecting out of the game. Then another disconnect between the people who (understandably) like the game for the vore and want to see more of it, and people who like it for the other fetishes/content and maybe just wish they could have alternate animations for the cute girl enemies instead of suddenly getting cock-vored by a minotaur.
Damien Rocks
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... You know what? Good points? You're also frustrated? & there's no frustration quite like sexual frustration because sexual frustration don' STAHP.
That said... There's plenty of fish in the sea, mate.
& the game has yet to be completed.
Personally when I reached that scene I thought it was just gonna be regular futanari on girl action, it went from a 4 to an 11 in the span of 2 frames, & I have my pet peeves, but uh, still, the gameplay's great, this guy knows his stuff, his previous game is amazing, I really missed bomberman, his animation is fluid, there is a decent roster of scenes, plus, the game's not even finished yet, so... in the meantime? You know what?
^ I'm standing with this guy here.
It really just seems people here are complaining with their belly full.. (& yes, that pun stays)
Perfectionism is the enemy of the "decently good enough".
There are many people here who would wish the game went in what THEY personally believe would be the best direction, but come now! 2 full pages of complaints about it? Really? (especially considering they're not paying for it?)
Have some faith, hope for the best, patience is a virtue, & for the love of all the pornography you have avaliable 2 clicks away, just try to enjoy this treat you're getting for free.
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