Spadgeunlikeanyother
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If you've not read the prior comments before the argument kicked off two pages ago, the Update won't be coming until late April as it wasn't finished in time.
Damien Rocks
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On the bright side, the reason is cause Mega wanted to add in some more stuff. And, well... cause doing bosses takes more time to work on. So we'll have the boss, and another enemy related to the boss, and I'm pretty sure each will have 3 H-scenes.
I don't really know where you're coming from with that because there's an chance that either A. The dev might not wanted to share his fondness of vore and other kinks on an social media like Twitter or B. Sonething may have happened that forced the dev to get rid of any hints of kinks of theirs to avoid getting punished on Twitter. Try again with your approach please.
I communicated with the developer and this is indeed a "bug" that he has been chasing for some time. So if it does end up happening to you, let him know the circumstance.
ThatWeirdGuyWithaWeirdHat
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With how lax Twitter is with pornographic content in their site, I seriously doubt he would have faced repercussions. So no I don't think I will.
It could just be it's easier to share their updates on Patreon on itch.io. They haven't posted on their Twitter for nearly 4 years now, though I don't blame them for not being on Twitter in general.
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Hello everyone, Mega (a.k.a Laek) here. A friendly patron brought my attention to the thread, regarding this rare bug described above. Just now I've finally managed to track it down and correct it and this fix will be coming in the next version. Since I'm here anyways, I took the opportunity to catch up with the chatter in the thread so I might as well clear up some things regarding the ever contentious topic of "vore" in my game.
This will clear up some confusion that may arise, but if you have any more direct questions I'll hang around for while to answer.
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This will clear up some confusion that may arise, but if you have any more direct questions I'll hang around for while to answer.
ThatWeirdGuyWithaWeirdHat
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Initially I actually didn't know about your vore fetish at all, coming from your Pixie Panic Garden game. I thought it was just one of those niche things you entertained to keep scene variety. My thought process was that seemingly every single time you ran an enemy poll for MKM, vore fans would barrage the poll every single time for the vore option and leave everyone else hanging. Thus you had to acquiesce to the poll and add them in. It's not my thing at all, but I get where you're coming from now. My initial problem is that there's no indication in any of your advertisement of the game, whether it be your Patreon summary or elsewhere, that indicated the lean on vore content. I don't know the trajectory of where you want to take this game, so my earlier posts were based on the curve of vore vs other stuff you've released as of recent. I'm glad to see I was wrong
I didn't really care about your twitter account at all, I was just calling someone out in this thread for making shit up.
You are incredible for going the extra mile and including even more scenes for enemies. I don't know if I've seen many hentai games of this type do it, and thank you for coming here to reply too. I hope you get all the money you deserve for doing these well-made games.
As someone uninterested in vore I will always advocate for the artist to do what they personally enjoy, let others enjoy what's on offer or find something else (especially since the complaining people likely aren't even patrons). Though can't complain about alternate scenes, very cool.
Mainly though I just wanted to once again draw attention to the fact that the lizards have the grasp of banishment in v4 while I'm sure it's known about just wanted to bring attention back to it since it was noted before the whole vore thing (and they're one of my personal favorites).
Edit: not-krystal seems to have 1hp as well
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icollectsouls
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Interesting to finally get the dev's statement on the subject. Besides a simple "can't wait for the alternate scenes," there's one thing in particular that I want to comment on the most...
While I can understand (and agree with, to some extent) wanting to keep some of the more questionable stuff less "broadcasted," I'm not sure if the current approach of a fairly vanilla online approach followed by the in-game "hey just so you know there's stuff you may or may not like! Find out for yourself" works all that well. It doesn't really advertise any fetish content to people who might like what's included, and it also doesn't properly warn others about the quantity and implementation of said fetishes. The game also doesn't really do anything to direct a new player to the fetish configuration in the first place, so if you're one of those people that just hits start/new game/etc. without checking the options first, the first sexual things you're seeing in-game are starfish, slimes, and... coral, along with the preview of the bug on the title menu. None of that really prepares you for things like being petrified by a medusa or a mushroom girl forcibly inserting the main character into her penis.
I mean, the people who do want to see stuff like vore might not even know it's in the game, and would have to rely on tags from external "sharing" sites like this, or word-of-mouth from some other source entirely. Who knows, maybe someone on itch.io who would've been really into the
Maya gets cockvored by a tall minotaur lady scene (and/or other similar scenes) just passed on the game because otherwise, the available screenshots and description wouldn't even give you a hint about what kind of content is available, aside from the different girls that are visible in said screenshots. On the opposite end of that, you have players (like me) who actually downloaded for the fairly vanilla presentation and heavy presence of girls in the screenshots, only to find out that the game is mostly catering towards a different audience entirely.So ultimately, while you might have your own reasons for not really "advertising" the available fetish content in the game, I think that approach does more harm than good. To reiterate, you're simultaneously missing out on getting new players who actually want to see the included content while potentially scaring away others who don't know about the specifics until they've already downloaded.
While you're not wrong it sounded like they just don't want to deal with the puritanical abuse the internet vomits at anything even slightly different from the norm. Odds are good most of the people who sling that stuff aren't downloading the game to find out anyway so while you're correct that they'll reach fewer potential customers by not advertising the full variety of fetish content they'll also recieve less random abuse. A choice made for their own mental health rather than customer satisfaction and I do not blame them in the slightest.
ThatWeirdGuyWithaWeirdHat
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Consider the flipside as well: Buyer's Remorse. People might buy the full product, play it, find out that it's a LOT less vanilla than they were led to believe, and try for a refund and call it a scam.
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Thank you for the bug report. Those 2 problems in particular were already fixed shortly after the original release of v0.4, so my guess is that the version shared here is still the initial release (with the bugs) and not the subsequent bugfixed versions.
Your observations are valid; those were things that I had already pondered about years ago. Suffice to say that I've consciously decided to handle my whole "game dev public presence" in a unorthodox way (at least for now), even if it is a sub-optimal or even detrimental way of doing things, simply because it is more comfortable for me to do so. It is knowingly a subjective decision, not an objective one.
A related point is about why I don't market/push/shill my game as much as I could. It goes without saying that marketing your product in a healthy manner is key to making people know that your game exists. And as you mentioned, clear marketing is also helpful to attract the right audience to the niche content. But the thing is that for me, I simply don't have the time/energy required to maintain multiple platforms (twitter, discord, hell I don't even post here on f95 which is essentially effortless free marketing).
Furthermore, with what little online presence I already have (most active on patreon, but also on itch.io and a simple blog) I just prefer to continue flying under the radar, in a manner of speaking. The slow but steady growth in popularity of my game is sufficient for me for the time being. And I've got the feeling that people like me, that is, those who enjoy fringe or niche content, they seem to have a tendency to more frequently go out of their way in order to seek out said content (at least generally speaking), so I'm not too worried about that either.
It does suck for the vanilla people tough, to be caught by surprise. But thankfully, for now the game is effectively free: you can pirate it here and elsewhere lol, or you can go on my itch.io where there is a free, albeit outdated, version as well. Therefore with the game being free, a potential player can easily download it, try out and see the content for themselves. If they are happy with it, cool. But if not, then shift+delete and move on.
When I eventually release the actual finished version 1.0 (which I plan to release on steam as well), oh yes then that is another thing entirely, as I'll be offering a premium product on the market, so the least I can do is be clear and upfront about the content. On Steam it is even a requirement to fill out a form detailing all the different fetishes (if you've perused adult games there you've seen this type of advisory), so yeah at that juncture I'll be donning my proper "professional indie game dev" and do things the right way.
Thanks for taking the time to reply here! I appreciate it a lot. Keep doing good work. This is one of the few games here that's pretty enjoyable as it has plenty of different fetishes involved. I've been following you since the YouTube vid days (I forget what forum it was that they were posted on, it's been that long).
Ahah, well your attitude has definitely tipped the scale of whether or not I should more actively subscribe. Can confirm both fixes, have a pleasant day/night.
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Looks at thread, reads about vore controversy. Me fapping to this...
Guess I am a sicko...
Guess I am a sicko...
EmDotRand
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My brain: Hehe! Ass hat.
Taboo-Sho
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OOH THATS a good one. YOINK!