Pr0man

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You realise that regardless of when these things were added, people would still be complaining?
People will always complain, everywhere, this is the internet after all. It only depends on how many people will complain once an update rolls out.
This time it looked like there was lots of complaints coming. Probably made worse considering people were already complaining about music being added before the update went live.
 

Sodyaler

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While true on the note of the game having to be completed, a completed game does not require sound/music to be considered so.
I personally like games that have little in terms of sound and music blasting you constantly, and games where I wholeheartedly enjoy the music accompanying it. Yet, music doesn't make or break the game, several other factors do. Extra pieces of story (not every event has to revolve around you dicking the other inhabitants of the manor) with great writing and interesting characters are, at least to me, far more important than ambience sounds or music in the background.
Same goes with repeatable scenes. While it's nice that this was added, I am now left wondering - why wasn't this added in earlier, where it would've taken up less time?
I'm happy for the additions that are there, but considering it took 2 months to basically add quality of life features and ambience sounds, I'm still left disappointed.
I get where you're coming from because a fleshed out story is also more important to me than sounds and music, but not every update has to be jam packed full of new content. The patch notes for this update are by no means small. I don't mean small as in the amount of bullet points, I mean in the amount of work that would have had to been put into what they did for the update. Re-writing code to make things easier for the future is no small task, on top of all the other QoL additions. But this is just one mans opinion on the internet. I just don't like seeing peoples hard work being looked down on because self entitled pricks didn't get what they wanted. That's not aimed at you, just in general.
 
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Amenahek

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Okay so I get why people are dissapointed with this update but I really think people are overreacting. Going by the patch notes there are over 50 new events in this update (admittedly mostly small events), as well as various improvements and QoL changes to old content.

While it might feel dissapointing looking at this update in isolation, in the wider context of the game as a whole, updates like this one are what makes good games great, and I really think that people will be glad for this content further down the line.
I am a patron of Jikei. I also have access to the walkthrough. I checked all of those "new" events, and the majority of those repeatable sex scenes are literally ripped from previous level up sex scenes that are already in the gallery. There seems to be one actually "new" sex scene for each girl, and that may be being generous. The new Fanora and Esther special event is great, but the new Sunday event is a complete let down. The rest of the brand new side content are non-sex conversations and interactions like dates to the pool, beach, cafe... etc, which are essentially filler.
 
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Ferdi Kafka

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I get where you're coming from because a fleshed out story is also more important to me than sounds and music, but not every update has to be jam packed full of new content. The patch notes for this update are by no means small. I don't mean small as in the amount of bullet points, I mean in the amount of work that would have had to been put into what they did for the update. Re-writing code to make things easier for the future is no small task, on top of all the other QoL additions. But this is just one mans opinion on the internet. I just don't like seeing peoples hard work being looked down on because self entitled pricks didn't get what they wanted. That's not aimed at you, just in general.
True. Besides, this update provided what I personally had been wanting for a LONG time with this game, and that was more repeatable content. It just didn't make sense that with all of the progress that we made with the girls we still only had a couple of repeatables. This update gave us a BUNCH, so while I do admit I'm a bit disappointed that there was no main content, I still like the update overall.
 
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Pr0man

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Re-writing code to make things easier for the future is no small task, on top of all the other QoL additions.
Heh, that's the problem with QoL additions - if they are missing, people will complain, if they are added and take up time to get working, people will also complain and yet you only know you want them once someone has such an idea. Regardless on how you do it, you do it wrong apparently. But totally right, it takes a good chunk of time to make code more modular to allow for easier work on segments in the future.

the majority of those repeatable sex scenes are literally ripped from previous level up sex scenes that are already in the gallery
While it's not inherently bad to rip previous scenes for the repeatables (many games do that after all), it does feel a bit cheap that they now just added that in when there's the gallery already there which is basically just doing that. I personally enjoyed the added sunday event, every bit that helps fleshing out characters is something I enjoy. And I assume that since it takes money to go out with the girls, it'll be used in some form of progression in order to unlock more interactions, so while for now it's just filler, it could be used to see more content later down the line.
 

skyusalol

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game full bug I cant even give her shovel I cant click on it wtf this shit game idk how this shit can be a game
 

TripleZ

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So basically a 'quality of life' type of update. Given the result i played through, I can see why it took time to set this up. Well at least that means that future story progression updates should be lengthier or come faster ( can only hope).
On a side note : the choices of music is perfect imo
 

Reese286

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Ignore the drama Dev _ you can never please everyone. No question you are on the job and have a vision so keep doing what you do. Plan your work then work the plan.
 
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TheBatchCode

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Is it normal for these devs to have a public road map to know what we're actually going to get? Hell dont blow your entire load but maybe give the patreons...4 or 5 updates notice in advance to know what theyre getting.

Cause honestly everyone was expecting Nef, what came out is fine but I feel like a lot of people are feeling blue balled.
 
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Sorrowz

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As a patreon, it kinda feels bad that 2 months were charged and we got basically nothing new. I was 100% on-board the train with everyone else thinking it was finally Nefari's turn but this is just insanely disappointing.

I cancelled my patreon, I just can't with devs who don't post road maps so we know when there's gonna be QOL updates/music added/code fixes etc, and then when an update comes out after so long, and it's just, nothing new, it just makes me feel like I was robbed the month prior.

My suggestion if the dev reads this page:

Add a road map so people know when to expect this update.
Possibly look into not charging a month if you know there's not gonna be new significant content so it doesn't feel like milking.

Example would be the dev behind OffCuts. He hasn't charged the last 2 months cause there hasn't been new content besides dev posts, and I will never drop my patreon off of him for that. I'm not paying a dev to read what they have to say, I'm paying to support early access to a game and watch it develop and enjoy it.

Just my two cents. Sorry for raging, it's just frustrating paying money for basically nothing.
 

aolli

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As a patreon, it kinda feels bad that 2 months were charged and we got basically nothing new. I was 100% on-board the train with everyone else thinking it was finally Nefari's turn but this is just insanely disappointing.

I cancelled my patreon, I just can't with devs who don't post road maps so we know when there's gonna be QOL updates/music added/code fixes etc, and then when an update comes out after so long, and it's just, nothing new, it just makes me feel like I was robbed the month prior.

My suggestion if the dev reads this page:

Add a road map so people know when to expect this update.
Possibly look into not charging a month if you know there's not gonna be new significant content so it doesn't feel like milking.

Example would be the dev behind OffCuts. He hasn't charged the last 2 months cause there hasn't been new content besides dev posts, and I will never drop my patreon off of him for that. I'm not paying a dev to read what they have to say, I'm paying to support early access to a game and watch it develop and enjoy it.

Just my two cents. Sorry for raging, it's just frustrating paying money for basically nothing.
If the dev had posted a roadmap, you, and half his patreons would have cancelled anyway. And you aren't paying for basically nothing, QoL and code fixes are important and have to be done at somepoint (honestly the earlier the better).
 

Tacoman3000

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As a patreon, it kinda feels bad that 2 months were charged and we got basically nothing new. I was 100% on-board the train with everyone else thinking it was finally Nefari's turn but this is just insanely disappointing.

I cancelled my patreon, I just can't with devs who don't post road maps so we know when there's gonna be QOL updates/music added/code fixes etc, and then when an update comes out after so long, and it's just, nothing new, it just makes me feel like I was robbed the month prior.

My suggestion if the dev reads this page:

Add a road map so people know when to expect this update.
Possibly look into not charging a month if you know there's not gonna be new significant content so it doesn't feel like milking.

Example would be the dev behind OffCuts. He hasn't charged the last 2 months cause there hasn't been new content besides dev posts, and I will never drop my patreon off of him for that. I'm not paying a dev to read what they have to say, I'm paying to support early access to a game and watch it develop and enjoy it.

Just my two cents. Sorry for raging, it's just frustrating paying money for basically nothing.

If your were a Patron, you could've literally wrote this message to the dev when you cancelled. Why you'd post it here on the pirate forum instead is strange.
 

Sorrowz

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If the dev had posted a roadmap, you, and half his patreons would have cancelled anyway. And you aren't paying for basically nothing, QoL and code fixes are important and have to be done at somepoint (honestly the earlier the better).
I'm supporting plenty of devs with roadmaps and have not cancelled. I appreciate knowing what is coming and respect people who take the time to plan out a roadmap, and do their best to stick to it.

If your were a Patron, you could've literally wrote this message to the dev when you cancelled. Why you'd post it here on the pirate forum instead is strange.
There's no reason not to post in both places. I'm sure I've provided you free content here once or twice, so I don't appreciate being told what I can and can't do.
 
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If your were a Patron, you could've literally wrote this message to the dev when you cancelled. Why you'd post it here on the pirate forum instead is strange.

I think this viewpoint is unfair. Most of the people I support on patreon I have discovered on this website. People complaining about creators here gives me a better idea about the developers and whether or not it would be wise to support them.
 

NeroZee

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Ok here's the thing. Developers posting updates with no actual progression is fine, as long as such a thing is communicated to the thousands of patreons they have. I have defended several developers in the past whenever i felt they were wronged by some forum users. And I'd defend these developers in a heartbeat as soon as someone points to me a single post from them that says this update is gonna be very, very light on character progression updates?

If people want to defend developers to the death that's also fine and also their choice, it's your money, waste it however much you like if people can burn literal millions on failed projects like Star Citizen to this very day, than this is like a drop in the ocean in comparison.

But the way this was all presented thus far was as a fairly large update, not just with music and everything else but actual story progression, at least that's the impression I got, especially with all the delays because of music which promised that this only means even MORE content will be added.

So in the end i don't think this was all communicated properly and while there are many times some people complain for the sake of complaining and some can never be satisfied, i think in this case it's perfectly justified.

Anyway now that we got this update out of the way which did do a ton of good things for the game, like repeatable events/scenes, sound effects during sex scenes which were surprisingly effective for the overall enjoyment and even the music that turned out to be nice. We can focus on getting the next update ready with hopefully more progress and that elusive Nefari sex scene... Like seriously just give us our Egyptian goddess already.
 

Sorrowz

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I think this viewpoint is unfair. Most of the people I support on patreon I have discovered on this website. People complaining about creators here gives me a better idea about the developers and whether or not it would be wise to support them.
Same here. Every creator I support, I found here. I appreciated reading through the threads, seeing opinions, playing the game and forming my own opinion.

One of the reasons why I love this site is it provides that option for people who just wanna try it before buying it.
 
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