Meaning erahunter release, at most, a minor update per year. Maybe a quest. They are... very slow, being charitable.
RPGM Naked Adventure [v0.8] [EraHunter]
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Garbage swindler dev keep pretending that's he doing his game. Yay.
Wow, what a long-winded way of the dev to say "Fuck, down to only $1,800 for my scam? Better once again promise a release is just around the corner to add some more subscribers and get back to that $2,000/month sweet spot I've relied upon for nearly the last decade."
cant wait for this to take another 6 months to update for a job that anyone here can do in less than a week
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Hi. If you're okay with AI generated images, I've made a game similar. But apparently I've now progressed further and I'm a single dev with a full time job.
P.S I don't take the piss. I started nearer the start of the year-ish.
ive played the game like 4~ months ago and it's made well but im just not a fan of ai generated art that much but i am rooting for your success on this project
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- Oct 21, 2019
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AI isn't really a 'style', that's why a lot of people complain about it.
But not only art determines the quality of a game, I'm waiting for your game to be completed to try and playtest it. So far I've seen that people are really enjoying it so I hope I'll be able to enjoy it as well.
You ever thought of getting an artist or someone to work on it together with you?
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Like you said, AI is definitely not a style, unless stolen art is considered a style.
I tried SO hard to ignore the AI stuff in here, but people using AI is insulting to me. Especially, since AI programs are built on copyrighted material the programmers never paid for permission to use.
AI is a tool used by people who are too lazy to learn how to actually make images themselves.
Finally, this thread is about Naked Adventure and its not a promote your own novel thread.
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AI is kinda in a gray area about copyrighted material. I wouldn't call it directly stolen since AI is learning on open internet data, not to mention that the copyright on digital art is something so ephimerial that nobody even bothers. Last attempt on changing that was NFT - and it ended badly. On the other side, the "open internet data" indeed has the art that their authors didn't gave permission to use it for AI base, and AI making art based on this data is not mere referencing (when we, people, try to create art in someone else's style) but more of a copying, or making samples of. But issue with AI here is not in AI itself but with the internet: it's a huge dump of data that doesn't have any restrictions and, once something appears to it, it instantly becomes public and available for use to everyone.
But AI isn't only about 'stolen' arts - you can make it to learn on your own art, enchance it. It has some possibilities. I dream about AI making outfits in CGI scenes so that characters can have not one or two but dozens of them, hopefully in future we'll see something like that.
On the topic of lazy people - disagree. Learning art is hella hard, it takes too much effort to make at least something comprehensible that it's sometimes ridiculous. I don't see why people shouldn't use AI when they can't draw but are desperate to make their own products. I'd compare it with how devs utilize DAZ 3D, Honey Select and Koikatsu to make 3D models and animations for porn games, but there's a nuance that ruins it about AI being in a gray area that I've discussed above.
So, it's not about laziness. You wouldn't call somebody lazy if they used google translator instead of learning actual language, right?
Considering the likes, people are fine with it. NA is kind of scammy game that, despite of having quite lovely art, utilizes people as money bags and milks them for years without updates. Mayhaps it isn't very tactifully to advertise your own game in topic for another games, though, but Bryn's Adventure began as a Naked Adventure's clone that aims to fill the interest whilst the original game can't. Judging solely by ratings, Bryn did good (haven't tried it by myself yet).
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Open internet is already a gray area and it always was. AI takes a step beyond that to abuse that situation to make a profit.
Many artists are fine if you use their art but you give them credit and link their stuff and it's always good manners to do so when posting art.
Things are different when it comes to professional use. There are commissions worth hundreds or even thousands dollars. Copyright is a very real thing when money is exchanged. Imagine spending as a company 30k$ on promotional material and then another company replicating it with AI because they fed your artist's portfolio to the AI.
It's very simple, really - we operate in a gray area. Most people won't mind if I download their patreon and post of somewhere. It's still kinda bad and scummy thing to do. Things are different if I use their art to setup my own patreon.
Also, copying somebody's art or tracing it (except for learning/training) was always looked down upon and many "artists" were cancelled for that. AI is basically the same thing.
It's great for personal use, to enhance and speed up your work. Just don't use to make money if it was trained on somebody's work without their permission.
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It's directly stolen, plain and simple as that. People like you can try and make excuses for it all you want, AI is criminal and using it is criminal, at least the people who make the AI programs should have criminal charges brought against them, after they're forced to release a list of what copyrighted material they used in their programs.
If you want to hang an argument on 8 likes out of many users on a forum, then that says more about you than it does me.
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If I was earning the money as Era Hunter is, but know I didn't have the time for the art alone. I would be happily out sourcing and hiring someone to do the art work as a long term contract. I would happily invest 99% of their monthly capital to draw up a contract and pay an artist over X months. I would swap out my AI art works for something wonderful as theirs.
And for copyright, which I double checked, something a developer should be doing. I'm copyright ownership responsible of my own creations and that includes the source of what LORAs, Models I use. I see many AI games in this forum that use different Models and LORAs which I know for fact are non-distributional/ commercial use.
But I've always been clear on why I use AI art with my prompts etc...
.Anyway enough of that! Next Naked Adventure update when?
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Honestly your take sounds unhinged and highly misinformed but you're not the only person I've seen repeating this kinda stuff. If someone studies a bunch of art of a certain style or genre (viewing and storing information in their brain about it) and begins using this style to produce new works have they 'stolen' something? I mean you could argue they lack the creativity to come up with their own style, but this isn't exactly stealing despite their own eye looking at and analyzing other people's works to learn how to do it themselves. This is what the AI does. It's not storing 'stolen' pictures or whatever you believe is going on inside that black box. It's basically storing compressed fragments of things it sees (like humans) and recalling on them when it goes to produce something new. Just because being quicker at learning and getting to a better-than-average 'skill' level might be unfair, that does not mean it's the same as stealing. At worst it's a grey area.
If this is stealing then any artist who's art at all resembles things they've seen in the past are thieves as well. As this is off topic I'm not going to keep arguing but I suggest you actually learn what you're talking about before going on such upset rants over a thing you don't completely understand.
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I think your opinion is nothing more than an excuse to steal other peoples work to make a quick buck.
You're right on this being offtopic and I agree it should end.