RPGM Completed Nebel Geisterjäger [v1.2] [BBQ Lover]

[SinisterPortal]

btw it took me quite some time to finish the dungeon when it was the first time Kana went there with Lawerence and when I met her her clothes were torn , surely something happened but I couldn't see anything on cameras (I didn't have all cameras installed). I thought he might have raped her but I checked her sex stats and no, she's a virgin, there's only "first kiss" with something like "D2M4" - is that Lawerence ? Also, am I right in thinking he won’t rape her in a dungeon if the FAV parameter is low

 

[timurotbasaroglu]

isn't the blue-black hole a cheat? but thanks for clearing out that the dungeons will be same, I guess I was unlucky that I was assigned the same dungeon for 3 times in a row, but if there are only 3 of them then I prolly skip this game entirely, it sounds super boring (I like RPG gameplay but I don't like repetitiveness)

No, it is not cheating. As I said, that just means you found boss room first, nothing more or less. Although it is boring, the main purpose that dungeons serve is Lawrance's advance against Kana during dungeon, you play dungeons to get various scenes between them.

btw it took me quite some time to finish the dungeon when it was the first time Kana went there with Lawerence and when I met her her clothes were torn , surely something happened but I couldn't see anything on cameras (I didn't have all cameras installed). I thought he might have raped her but I checked her sex stats and no, she's a virgin, there's only "first kiss" with something like "D2M4" - is that Lawerence ? Also, am I right in thinking he won’t rape her in a dungeon if the FAV parameter is low

You have to install cameras first, and you have to check Kana's heart rate. Lawrance usually harasses her when she is in a weak condition (yellow and red heart rates), so when her heart rate condition turns red and yellow you have to check cameras what they are doing to see scenes.
Also yeah, Lawrance doesn't rape her suddenly in dungeon, he first kisses, harass, gropes etc... And by doing all of these he gets submission points on Kana, and if submission points goes high he even fucks her (but be careful, if Kana is too weak compared to against dungeon monsters he may fuck her even if her submission points low, cuz she continuously gets beat by the monsters).

 

[Flood69(new)]

Is it possible to get all the scenes and still get the true end? How much submission and events are allowed by the end of the game?

 

[Iexist]

Is it possible to get all the scenes and still get the true end? How much submission and events are allowed by the end of the game?

Theoretically, as long as you meet all of the right conditions, you can reach the True Ending at any point as long as Kana doesn't hit 1200 submission.

In practice though, considering the random nature of events, plus the fact that some stuff doesn't happen without Submission hitting 800 and that said milestone also adds an event that cannot be interrupted during the night phase at times which tends to add a lot of submission...

Quite frankly, it's probably impossible on a 1st playthrough. The more intense the events, the more submission they add... and if I remember right, the day-time anal events need 900 submission to trigger with any regularity.

On top of all that, there's some scenes that only trigger at lower submission values, a couple of the porn videos made by L. The exhibitionist stuff requires body development and body development partly depends on submission... Then there's the two "L is angry" scenes that have low and high submission variants. Or the one scene when Kana and MC are still living separately...

There's also the fact that the True Ending can only be done by beating the final boss, which can only be accessed while L is away. Which means that it's really hard to manage the submission values.

Maybe it's possible with really extensive save scumming? I honestly don't know. I don't think anyone's tried this.

 

[Flood69(new)]

then what about the ways to lower submission points mentioned before? If i lower submission points just barely, how likely is L to be away by then?

 

[2022meinfzone]

then what about the ways to lower submission points mentioned before? If i lower submission points just barely, how likely is L to be away by then?

You can lower them by talking with a thing in recollection room (NG+); or keep Kana away from Lawrence long enough but doing this increases affection/love point and by 800 point, Kana can no longer be harassed so no more NTR scenes.

edited: looks like I remember it wrong. Correct info below.

 

[Iexist]

You can lower them by talking with a thing in recollection room (NG+); or keep Kana away from Lawrence long enough but doing this increases affection/love point and by 800 point, Kana can no longer be harassed so no more NTR scenes.

That's incorrect. Kana can have infinity affection, and L will still harass her.

What matters is triggering the mini-event where MC confronts L about his bullshit, which has a requirement of 800 affection points to trigger all the necessary stuff. As long as this event isn't triggered, Kana can have as much affection as you want.

 

[Flood69(new)]

I've been having trouble getting the keycards for the surveillance rooms, what am I missing?

 

[Flood69(new)]

There's also the fact that the True Ending can only be done by beating the final boss, which can only be accessed while L is away. Which means that it's really hard to manage the submission values.

Maybe it's possible with really extensive save scumming? I honestly don't know. I don't think anyone's tried this.

iirc you can actually bribe the barista to make L go away to a party in Tokyo for a few days.

 

[Iexist]

iirc you can actually bribe the barista to make L go away to a party in Tokyo for a few days.

That's true, but I don't remember how feasible that is on a 1st playthrough. You start with very little money and raising Kana's affection just by going to dinner with her costs some money. To say nothing of bandage costs depending on luck and whatnot...

That said, I genuinely don't remember how much it cost.

It's definitely an option, but, it still doesn't solve every other problem involving the submission system.

Really, using NG+ is just plan better on all levels. Especially since you can't unlock the endings with the gallery unlock, so if you want to see them all, you need multiple playthroughs anyway.

'Course, maybe they're trying some kind of challenge run? XD

 

[rufiyaa]

just curious if the MC can actually take her first time? Im at 1100 affection and nothing seems to be happening.

 

[Iexist]

just curious if the MC can actually take her first time? Im at 1100 affection and nothing seems to be happening.

Yes, the MC can take Kana's 1st time. It's not just affection based however. You need to do enough of the town's side-quests and raise the population enough to trigger the event where they're given a home to live together. Then you need to trigger certain date events.

The MC can also get Kana pregnant btw, which gets mentioned in a couple of the endings if it happens. The odds are really low, but it can be done.

 

[rufiyaa]

Yes, the MC can take Kana's 1st time. It's not just affection based however. You need to do enough of the town's side-quests and raise the population enough to trigger the event where they're given a home to live together. Then you need to trigger certain date events.

The MC can also get Kana pregnant btw, which gets mentioned in a couple of the endings if it happens. The odds are really low, but it can be done.

aaaaaah gotcha, thanks

 

[jp_fgt]

That's true, but I don't remember how feasible that is on a 1st playthrough. You start with very little money and raising Kana's affection just by going to dinner with her costs some money. To say nothing of bandage costs depending on luck and whatnot...

That said, I genuinely don't remember how much it cost.

It's definitely an option, but, it still doesn't solve every other problem involving the submission system.

Really, using NG+ is just plan better on all levels. Especially since you can't unlock the endings with the gallery unlock, so if you want to see them all, you need multiple playthroughs anyway.

'Course, maybe they're trying some kind of challenge run? XD

There is another trick you can use: If the MC has max dick size, having sex with Kana will lower the submission value by 6. If you combine this with enough save scumming, you can do an almost full clear and reach the true end in the first playthrough. Some scenes are just plain impossible to get without doing a reset, such as all the defloration ones.

Someone I know spent over 20 hours clearing Nebel this way and I wouldn't recommend anyone else play like this.

 

[Iexist]

There is another trick you can use: If the MC has max dick size, having sex with Kana will lower the submission value by 6. If you combine this with enough save scumming, you can do an almost full clear and reach the true end in the first playthrough. Some scenes are just plain impossible to get without doing a reset, such as all the defloration ones.

Someone I know spent over 20 hours clearing Nebel this way and I wouldn't recommend anyone else play like this.

That'd take a lot of save scumming on a 1st playthrough, especially since it'd take a while to unlock Status 5, which you need to accurately track submission points. You'd likely have to keep L cock-blocked for a while until you're able to get that and then you'd need to save-scum on night events and day events and stuff. The 800 submission milestone would require even more save-scumming... also, things tend to go weird if you go over 800 submission and then under that milestone, because A Tier body development is tied to it.

On top of that, you'd either have to skip the "Kana opens the door while getting fucked" event, or delay for ages until you have status 5, control when that event triggers, then progress things to where MC and Kana live together... However, I don't remember what submission value that one could pop-up at, and which other events you'd risk missing...

Honestly, it sounds like way too much trouble.

 

[Darkrider000]

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[ghosto1234]

ummm so i'm in a bind: I got scared when the ghost girl said my meter went over 9 thousands and I ran off, next it seems i can't find how to access the dream world, need some help here

 

[Anti-Toxic Med]

the game is amusing so far...... but unfortunately this game just take you forever to progress the dungeon because Kana always ten steps behind MC

edit: I'm stuck in Hospital Dungeon and I don't know what to do

 

[Mintberry Crunch]

ummm so i'm in a bind: I got scared when the ghost girl said my meter went over 9 thousands and I ran off, next it seems i can't find how to access the dream world, need some help here

I'm not sure what you mean about the ghost girl said your meter went over 9000? You can only access the dream world after Kana gets ntr'd by Lawrence afterwards you can call her and request access through the cell phone iirc.

As for Anti-Toxic, the hospital is rough. If you want her to reach the end you'll want to close the doors that lead to tough rooms (some are avoidable. Tough rooms are the ones with a lot of red shadows in there) while keeping the path open to reach the end. That one is really a test of your Kana's gear imo as that one has the most battles. Combining tarot cards is really key to having her get through dungeons organically without the help of King Crimson.

 

[Lejosmon]

Any mods? Like one to know where Kana is, or to trigger one event.

Also, obvious parts aside how do the stats work? It adds one of cheating when she does something, like a blowjob? Each cheating is only one time they hid to have "fun"? Are the actions count (groping, kisses...) random and it may vary if you keep loading the save?