Iexist

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i cant believe this game gets rated below 4, yes it has some behind the scene calc to get some scenes, but thats about it. regarding the content, everything else is pretty much explained in-game.
As the poster above me said, some people just want pure porn delivery devices with nothing else to them. For others, I will be fair and say that the typical JRPG style that Nebel uses is not for everyone, and that's really just a matter of taste rather than a measure of objective issues.

It's also true that BBQ themselves were not fully satisfied with how Nebel turned out based on what I could dig out from their ci-en posts, as the development was impacted b COVID. Some people react more harshly to some of the flaws that were left behind.

However, compare it with 90% of the NTR games out there... and there's just no comparison in terms of quality. Definitely 4-star or higher.
 

bucefala

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Where is the secret room? I think thats all Im missing for true end.

Edit: Found it, wooden section of the back wall of center Asahane house,.
 
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xilero3

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There's any way to bring back the "cheat maid" on the latest version? Either that or force a harassment event with mtool or something like it?
 

bucefala

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Think I messed up my experience a bit by using the teleport function at the end of the map a lot, before I understood how to actually make Kana get there herself. When I was already overpowered and wanted to see some scenes before going for endings, the gameplay turned into a scene viewer, as opposed to scenes naturally coming up as you tried to figure what to do.

I never really understood how the spirit procentage worked. I knew it was the main way to help her, but didnt know if you need to clear the whole room, or to some high procentage, or does every enemy defeated make the rest of the enemies in that room weaker. Its the last one. I also knew you could probably track her by that procentage, but I thought it was just 10% difference from where you left it. Its actually almost always 100% completed if she progressed through the room. Exception being when she is hurt and looks for a safe spot. I also didnt know that she always follows the red carpet in the abandoned hospital. Very important because in basement, for example, the red carpet splits in 2 ways, very dangerous room, which the game warns you that you shouldnt let her go through, and elevator, so you basically start the level on one floor and finish on the other, optimally.

And the main way to get stronger is accesories, especially for Kana and her mixing of cards. I didnt even understand what those strengthening facilities do until almost endgame. I would have been forced to check it out again if I didnt use teleport and Kana was too weak to get through the level.

The scenes are really hot, the sounds and moans also. I really liked the story and Hotaru is my fav character in the whole game. If there was one ending where Kana leaves us but we end up with Hotaru, that would be my favourite ending.
 
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Think I messed up my experience a bit by using the teleport function at the end of the map a lot, before I understood how to actually make Kana get there herself. When I was already overpowered and wanted to see some scenes before going for endings, the gameplay turned into a scene viewer, as opposed to scenes naturally coming up as you tried to figure what to do.

I never really understood how the spirit procentage worked. I knew it was the main way to help her, but didnt know if you need to clear the whole room, or to some high procentage, or does every enemy defeated make the rest of the enemies in that room weaker. Its the last one. I also knew you could probably track her by that procentage, but I thought it was just 10% difference from where you left it. Its actually almost always 100% completed if she progressed through the room. Exception being when she is hurt and looks for a safe spot. I also didnt know that she always follows the red carpet in the abandoned hospital. Very important because in basement, for example, the red carpet splits in 2 ways, very dangerous room, which the game warns you that you shouldnt let her go through, and elevator, so you basically start the level on one floor and finish on the other, optimally.

And the main way to get stronger is accesories, especially for Kana and her mixing of cards. I didnt even understand what those strengthening facilities do until almost endgame. I would have been forced to check it out again if I didnt use teleport and Kana was too weak to get through the level.

The scenes are really hot, the sounds and moans also. I really liked the story and Hotaru is my fav character in the whole game. If there was one ending where Kana leaves us but we end up with Hotaru, that would be my favourite ending.
Something I think would really bring the game together is if there was a post-game, like in Semen Squeezing Devil. Where there was a post-game where you collected scenes and little moments together with your girl. Hotaru after becoming a guardian spirit could also be expanded there too.
 

Niselaro

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Why they are not selling HD Cameras only ordinary with static view in this version. Is it bugged or flawed, or those ordinary cameras will work as HD when you catch a scene ? + there no character in central ward to choose which molesting scene would happen in the evening, that system works differently now somewhere or it was removed ?
 
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Tiredpuff

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Why they are not selling HD Cameras only ordinary with static view in this version. Is it bugged or flawed, or those ordinary cameras will work as HD when you catch a scene ? + there no character in central ward to choose which molesting scene would happen in the evening, that system works differently now somewhere or it was removed ?
If I recall correctly the hd cameras are not buyable on your first playthrough, only on newgame+. But there is a good ammount of them to find on the abandoned mansion. If I'm wrong, someone correct me please.

Myself when I found this out I just hooked the game with mtool and added a bunch of HD cameras to my inventory because I considered this a hassle, you could also do this with a save editor too.

This does undermine the intended experience of the game though, as it was designed to be experienced through multiple playthroughs. You could try to rush to an ending, do what I did or just play the game normally.

Also, the ordinary cameras stay as ordinary with static when you capture the scenes, I'm not sure if the guy on the porn shop can up their resolution (I only played with hd cameras). And I think the maid on the central wards to decide the events was just removed and not replaced with something else, I don't know if this is dependent on the version of the game.
 

Iexist

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I'm not sure if it's still valid in this version, but you could get HD cameras in the 1st Playthrough if you picked the camera bonus out of all the starting bonuses.

As for the maid, welp, that's a reason for me to not change from the edition I have... not that I know what the hell this 1.2 version even added. I think voices or more voices? I dunno. I stuck to the 1.1 Translator edition and had no issues with it.
 

2022meinfzone

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As for the maid, welp, that's a reason for me to not change from the edition I have... not that I know what the hell this 1.2 version even added. I think voices or more voices? I dunno. I stuck to the 1.1 Translator edition and had no issues with it.
The event maid is replaced with a black globe. It located further north of the location of the maid (less obvious, I guess).

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2022meinfzone

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I don't have such an Orb, maybe its given in 2nd playthrough or if you choose some different bonuses. That is if you are using this version.
Oops, my bad. Mine is 1.12 from BBQ website, not from this site. Sorry for the confusion.
As for 1.2, some pages back people said it was a bug fix, not anything new was added.
 
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Tiredpuff

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The version I had of the game had neither the maid nor the orb, but as soon as I got the english patch and applied it, the orb was there.
 
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Niselaro

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I'm not sure if it's still valid in this version, but you could get HD cameras in the 1st Playthrough if you picked the camera bonus out of all the starting bonuses.

As for the maid, welp, that's a reason for me to not change from the edition I have... not that I know what the hell this 1.2 version even added. I think voices or more voices? I dunno. I stuck to the 1.1 Translator edition and had no issues with it.
Didn't try with easy mode, but choosing bonus camera doesn't fix anything. Still can't buy HD cameras.
 

Iexist

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Didn't try with easy mode, but choosing bonus camera doesn't fix anything. Still can't buy HD cameras.
Huh. Weird. I dunno then. I never played this version of the game, so I dunno what quirks it has or not. I also didn't feel the need to get the HD cameras in my 1st playthrough, to be fair, since I focused on trying to get the True Ending in that one and then get to the good stuff later.
 

bucefala

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Huh. Weird. I dunno then. I never played this version of the game, so I dunno what quirks it has or not. I also didn't feel the need to get the HD cameras in my 1st playthrough, to be fair, since I focused on trying to get the True Ending in that one and then get to the good stuff later.
I really dont know what the optimal order of endings to go for is. I also went for the true ending first, as I do in most games, but then it ends the story on a sour note when seeing ntr end. But if you go for true end last, maybe it would feel like a what if ending, and ntr the real ending. I dunno, wish I saw the bad end where you lose to Hotaru before uninstaling, all my saves were too far in ntr territory to have time to lose 4 times to her.
 

anonsuit

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Think I messed up my experience a bit by using the teleport function at the end of the map a lot, before I understood how to actually make Kana get there herself. When I was already overpowered and wanted to see some scenes before going for endings, the gameplay turned into a scene viewer, as opposed to scenes naturally coming up as you tried to figure what to do.

I never really understood how the spirit procentage worked. I knew it was the main way to help her, but didnt know if you need to clear the whole room, or to some high procentage, or does every enemy defeated make the rest of the enemies in that room weaker. Its the last one. I also knew you could probably track her by that procentage, but I thought it was just 10% difference from where you left it. Its actually almost always 100% completed if she progressed through the room. Exception being when she is hurt and looks for a safe spot. I also didnt know that she always follows the red carpet in the abandoned hospital. Very important because in basement, for example, the red carpet splits in 2 ways, very dangerous room, which the game warns you that you shouldnt let her go through, and elevator, so you basically start the level on one floor and finish on the other, optimally.

And the main way to get stronger is accesories, especially for Kana and her mixing of cards. I didnt even understand what those strengthening facilities do until almost endgame. I would have been forced to check it out again if I didnt use teleport and Kana was too weak to get through the level.

The scenes are really hot, the sounds and moans also. I really liked the story and Hotaru is my fav character in the whole game. If there was one ending where Kana leaves us but we end up with Hotaru, that would be my favourite ending.
do you mind making a rundown on how to "control" her this is what has kept me from playing, because I do not understand what to do. I would greatly appreciate it. how to control her in a natural way to get scenes. because like you I was doing the same. rushing to the teleport. I just decided to stop because I did not know what I was doing.
 
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nojszu

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do you mind making a rundown on how to "control" her this is what has kept me from playing, because I do not understand what to do. I would greatly appreciate it. how to control her in a natural way to get scenes. because like you I was doing the same. rushing to the teleport. I just decided to stop because I did not know what I was doing.
For maximizing the scenes/times she gets hurt, guide her towards rooms with orange (elite) enemies:
In Church lead her to the path alongside top left corner (there's like 5 enemies in a row there)
In Mansion you can't alter her course much, but you can force her to take the longer route by closing the doors in a corridor right of boss, the one with 4 rooms above it.
In Hospital monsters in rooms you can't enter vary day by day, but you can see their colors looking near the walls. Direct Kana to the rooms full of orange monsters, possibly having her switch floors in the process.
 
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bucefala

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For maximizing the scenes/times she gets hurt, guide her towards rooms with orange (elite) enemies:
In Church lead her to the path alongside top left corner (there's like 5 enemies in a row there)
In Mansion you can't alter her course much, but you can force her to take the longer route by closing the doors in a corridor right of boss, the one with 4 rooms above it.
In Hospital monsters in rooms you can't enter vary day by day, but you can see their colors looking near the walls. Direct Kana to the rooms full of orange monsters, possibly having her switch floors in the process.
You can also unequip her items, especially the accessories, those are the strongest, and dont fight spirits, each one defeated makes the room slightly easier, you can see it by looking at spirit health after deafiting it once or twice.
 

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You can also unequip her items, especially the accessories, those are the strongest, and dont fight spirits, each one defeated makes the room slightly easier, you can see it by looking at spirit health after deafiting it once or twice.
I didn't mention unequiping items since its the "standard" play. There's also a debuff card in NG+, can't remember where do you get it (succubus store?).
 
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