Maviarab

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Nah, the dev had no idea at the beginning and i dont think it was supposed to be a harem game (see the choices in the beginning where you have to decide to visit eliza or alice and stuff like that) but got turned into one.
Maybe you should look for the devs posts where he states it? You want to argue with him...knock yourself out kid.
 

Krytax123

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Maybe you should look for the devs posts where he states it? You want to argue with him...knock yourself out kid.
"Thank you for the questions, NTR NO! Harem is somewhat planned, but not a full open harem.
The game contains 2 main paths for us to follow dark / light morality. most of the females will be neutral but I have planned a few ladies specific to each path.
Multi protag is NOT in the game and won't be, however there are several important (side) characters that we sometimes get to see their perspective if that makes sense?"

This was the devs first post about it (after harem pressure from the community). But whatever, have fun kiddo
 
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TKdropemoff

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Solid update..
But man the betrayal with the Lis gotta stop imo..
Just kills my interest in them just like that.. In this case, with pearl...

Like come on man.. ugh, and I liked her too..
 

TKdropemoff

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You'll get there when you're adult.

Dude, it's not cumplay. It's just kissing. She swallowed so you're fine and didn't taste anything of your own cum you find disgusting. You lick your own asshole everyday but kissing a girl who pleased you is disgusting for you? Yes, you lick your own asshole. Because just a fun fact: the texture and structure of the skin inside the oral cavity is exactly the same as inside your asshole. They are the same cells. The same mucous membrane. The only difference is where this skin is located. So think about that the next time you bump your tongue against your lips or cheeks. This is what it feels like inside your asshole.

Dude, kissing a girl after getting a blowjob like MC did it, isn't disgusting. It isn't cumplay and yes, it's a sign of being mature to give your partner some pleasentries after they made you cum. Fucking is a give and take, only selfish unmanly assholes deny themselves to their partner and insist on only doing things that give them pleasure. MC is matured enough to kiss his girl Kira. He's clearly an adult. I expect nothing less of an AVN. You know what the A stands for? It doesn't stand for porn.
man relax.
Holy shit. Even if this is true on a biology standpoint, are you serious fr man?
Goodness man get a grip and accept that people have preferences. No need to try
to say "oh well you don't like kissing yo gf right after you came in her mouth? Shame on you! You're not
an adult!" then going on a mini tantrum over it.. you don't define what makes someone an adult because
they don't want to taste their own cum, or dick.
hell some people don't like blowjobs, some don't like eating pussy, ass, etc.
Does that make them less of an adult?
That's where the PREFERENCE come into play. Likes, and dislikes.
 
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Maviarab

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man relax.
Holy shit. Even if this is true on a biology standpoint, are you serious fr man?
Goodness man get a grip and accept that people have preferences. No need to try
to say "oh well you don't like kissing yo gf right after you came in her mouth? Shame on you! You're not
an adult!" then going on a mini tantrum over it.. you don't define what makes someone an adult because
they don't want to taste their own cum, or dick.
hell some people don't like blowjobs, some don't like eating pussy, ass, etc.
Does that make them less of an adult?
That's where the PREFERENCE come into play. Likes, and dislikes.
Do you expect your girl to kiss you after you've gone down on her? Or do you types not even go down on your girl? If you do...and the answer to my first question is yes...then it makes you a fucking hypocrite if you refuse to do the same. No difference in the two.

*always amazed how supposed masculine men are so afraid of what comes out of their own body, especially when they are not even 'tasting it' themselves anyway...*
 
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I think it's awesome that Eliza becomes a vampire. It will pretty much make her a bad ass as well as immortal. Also the MC wouldn't have to worry so much if she gets hurt on their adventures. I don't know, some people don't like it, but I love it. The dev has the right to make his game as well as the storyline, however he wants. But I for one think the Dev is doing a great job and I hope he continues it that way.
 

Grumpy Old Aussie

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I think it's awesome that Eliza becomes a vampire. It will pretty much make her a bad ass as well as immortal. Also the MC wouldn't have to worry so much if she gets hurt on their adventures. I don't know, some people don't like it, but I love it. The dev has the right to make his game as well as the storyline, however he wants. But I for one think the Dev is doing a great job and I hope he continues it that way.
I haven't decided yet on the vampire thing yet. I love what he did with Eliza up until the vampire. It depends on how the dev does it as to whether I will like it or not. If Eliza becomes a blood thirsty maniac that would ruin the story for me. I love her personality as it is. If the dev gives the player the choices to make her good/bad then I'm fine with that. I'll wait and see how it goes from here.

I am of the strong belief to let the dev tell his own story, that doesn't negate my right to an opinion about his work. I do try and keep it somewhat constructive though.
 

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I really liked the introduction of the witch of the cave and that of the aunt (mc) I hope there is more action with each of them in the future, especially the aunt, and what I didn't like was the design change. Pearl, she looked 10 before, I hope that when she reappears she looks like before, no longer anxious about the next update and waiting to see what happens with Eliza, Rin, Luna and the others now that she has returned to the city Screenshot_nephilim.jpg
 

corkui

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Great update, decent length for the story too, not like some of the previous updates that where a bit short, keep up the good work!
 
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BGRW2020

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I enjoy single LI games set in a fantastic medieval era. However, it seems like this game might deviate towards a harem route. I hope the developer avoids the common tendency of introducing new characters just because they've come up with a new character design idea, as many game developers often do. It would be better if the game doesn't get stuck in that swamp.
Actually this Dev gives what I have asked for with many VN's - choices - maybe still not enough to avoid any and all love scenes but still he gives you the choice to romance with any after telling the story with / about them each - the harem route I'm assuming can be avoided. In this story all I ever wanted is Eliza, with a possible second being Alice, thats all
 
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Maviarab

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Well finally finished the update...hmmmm....I dunno....

The outrage here was way over the top (no surprise there though I guess). While it would have been nice to have an option not to use the chalice...even for an update....just a few renders trying to find an alternative before realising there is no other option...that adds significant dev time...and no, the MC does not force Eliza....it would though have been nice to have had far more deliberation...but depending on where that particular plot heads...can deal with that.

Pear....ohhhhh Pearl, Pearl, Pearl....seemed such a rushed plot...and yes, the MC is WAY too forgiving, considering what you can do earlier in the story to those who piss you off. Sure, OK, she my favourite character...but....the whole thing just felt off. Not the actual plot itself, have no issue with that and can see why Pearl did what she did...but it all seemed rushed/forced and we're not only way too quick to forgive her, but also forced into that decision....ehhh...I dunno.

Also, for buu...if you were going to change her....in the ways you did (character model etc)...should have been done 'next time' we see her...which could be weeks/months later in the story. Bad...sorry, but part of her appeal was her looks (when isn't it after all with anyone)...not a good change man...in my opinion. Her old look was far, far, far better. (she still my fave char though heh).
 
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AntoniH13

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Disappointing is the only thing I can say about this update. The fact that we can't decide what to do with Perla is quite contradictory, considering that we had a similar situation before and, on that occasion, we were given an option. Also, the sudden transformation of Eliza into a vampire feels arbitrary, and once again, there's no choice to decide that. The plot feels rushed and uninteresting at this point.
 

BGRW2020

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I just learned that pureblood vampires don't need blood for sustinence and have no problem with light of day, hope this is included in this story for Eliza
 
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Grumpy Old Aussie

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Disappointing is the only thing I can say about this update. The fact that we can't decide what to do with Perla is quite contradictory, considering that we had a similar situation before and, on that occasion, we were given an option. Also, the sudden transformation of Eliza into a vampire feels arbitrary, and once again, there's no choice to decide that. The plot feels rushed and uninteresting at this point.
Some ramifications for Pearl would have been a better outcome. It irks me when you don't get some sort of justice in a game. The reason may have been because the story is moving on from Kira and Pearl perhaps? There is no opportunity to explore what those ramifications might be. Plus Pearl's sister is dating the MC where in the early sister situation, the sister wasn't dating the MC, and could be used as a pawn to punish. I think that's why it was different to the previous situation. I've already made a few comments on the Eliza plot twist previously, so I'll leave it there.
 
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BGRW2020

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This is done with the intention of her gaining powers and being able to accompany you on journeys without being a burden, I don't know about the part about being together forever.
For me, more than being a vampire per se (like the divine), what bothers me is that she transforms in the middle of the story. I see it as selling me one thing and then giving me another.
For the moment, for me it's only worth playing it for Eliza or Kira, the rest barely have any content.
Yea except she will need blood??? really
 
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