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TrixRabbit

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I've got a few saves happening, in one Eliza killed her and in another she let Selena go and told her go far away. I can't remember what happened in the third save. Regardless I think she is done as a character.
Unless she comes sneaking back (for good or ill) in the late game - like Gollum.
 

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I've got a few saves happening, in one Eliza killed her and in another she let Selena go and told her go far away. I can't remember what happened in the third save. Regardless I think she is done as a character.
Yeah tho I admit Selena feels like an odd character to me. If I recall correctly on the path you kill the sister , she ask for your help to find some artifact that could potential bring her sister back and you can agree or not. Then the next update Eliza kills her. I wonder what the point in that conversation was , makes me wonder if it's some foreshadowing that the MC will be able to bring someone back from the dead later or what.
 

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Yeah tho I admit Selena feels like an odd character to me. If I recall correctly on the path you kill the sister , she ask for your help to find some artifact that could potential bring her sister back and you can agree or not. Then the next update Eliza kills her. I wonder what the point in that conversation was , makes me wonder if it's some foreshadowing that the MC will be able to bring someone back from the dead later or what.
Probably Eliza after we leave her alone to go on this mission.
 
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TrixRabbit

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When I redo my saves she is gonna kill her on all but like 1 maybe 2.
My problem is that the only way I know for sure to get her to kill is if you kill the sister earlier and the sister isn't the one I want to kill. She was a hostage, she was not the one who betrayed us, she didn't even know what was going on. I want to kill Selena but we don't get an option for that.
 

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My problem is that the only way I know for sure to get her to kill is if you kill the sister earlier and the sister isn't the one I want to kill. She was a hostage, she was not the one who betrayed us, she didn't even know what was going on. I want to kill Selena but we don't get an option for that.
my point of view is unless It's a light save or a save im not planning on being on Eliza's path. It doesn't matter she is innocent I go Scorched Earth for Eliza nothing else matters. Only time I let my character turn evil is for Eliza lol other wise it depends on the context and the save im playing.
 
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my point of view is unless It's a light save or a save im not planning on being on Eliza's path. It doesn't matter she is innocent I go Scorched Earth for Eliza nothing else matters. Only time I let my character turn evil is for Eliza lol other wise it depends on the context and the save im playing.
Nah. I mean I get that, but in the end I couldn't kill an innocent who wasn't even aware of the situation if it wouldn't help Eliza at all - Eliza definitely wouldn't have approved. I was just annoyed that we only got the option to kill the sister and not the one who actually did the crime. And then Eliza doesn't kill her either. Edit: I mean I think my good/evil points are at or around 0 - and my relationship points with everyone else combined is ... 12 I think? and 4 of those are with goddesses.
 

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Nah. I mean I get that, but in the end I couldn't kill an innocent who wasn't even aware of the situation if it wouldn't help Eliza at all - Eliza definitely wouldn't have approved. I was just annoyed that we only got the option to kill the sister and not the one who actually did the crime. And then Eliza doesn't kill her either.
I think it makes sense for Eliza not to kill her if you let the sister live. Now what doesn't make sense is killing the sister cause that is more monster level evil and not revenge for wrong doings.

Edit : What I wish would change tho is if you let Eliza kill as a vampire would determine if she kills Selena or not. Not have the choose be determined if the MC kills the sister
 

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I think it makes sense for Eliza not to kill her if you let the sister live. Now what doesn't make sense is killing the sister cause that is more monster level evil and not revenge for wrong doings.

Edit : What I wish would change tho is if you let Eliza kill as a vampire would determine if she kills Selena or not
Yeah ... And between Eliza and MC, at least in my game, Eliza is totally the nice one - even as a vampire.
 

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Yeah ... And between Eliza and MC, at least in my game, Eliza is totally the nice one - even as a vampire.
I forget which save hence why I need to redo them. But I let Eliza kill on one of them hoping the more she kills will determine and change her so she is more prone to kill as a vampire. But not sure if those choices will even matter Im guessing they might be just for flavor.
 

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I forget which save hence why I need to redo them. But I let Eliza kill on one of them hoping the more she kills will determine and change her so she is more prone to kill as a vampire. But not sure if those choices will even matter Im guessing they might be just for flavor.
I don't let her because I suspect that it would cause her tremendous guilt. I have no doubt that she'd kill in self defense, or to protect MC but killing random prostitutes in the dead of night is neither of those things and she'd know it. I prefer that she remains the nice one.
 

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I don't let her because I suspect that it would cause her tremendous guilt. I have no doubt that she'd kill in self defense, or to protect MC but killing random prostitutes in the dead of night is neither of those things and she'd know it. I prefer that she remains the nice one.
it depends on the save for me. one save I want her to be nice and the Eliza we love . While some saves I want her to be a bloodthirsty ripper of a vampire that kills because she can and give in to her monster side.
 

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it depends on the save for me. one save I want her to be nice and the Eliza we love . While some saves I want her to be a bloodthirsty ripper of a vampire that kills because she can and give in to her monster side.
Ok fair enough. I only have the one save really, and the sister is the only one I didn't kill when given the option. I suspect that having Eliza be the nice one will keep me from going dark later in the game, because I have have to ask myself what Eliza would think about what I'm about to do. If she's more bloodthirsty than I am, the entire realm is in f'in danger.
 
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