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The harem must grow. I won't like Brenda being in the harem but I'll accept it if it happens. In a story where the MC apparently seduces anyone just being in the area, it would be nice to have a female antagonist that isn't phased by it.

Wouldn't be shocked if we somehow swing Eliza's mom to our side.
 
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The harem must grow. I won't like Brenda being in the harem but I'll accept it if it happens. In a story where the MC apparently seduces anyone just being in the area, it would be nice to have a female antagonist that isn't phased by it.

Wouldn't be shocked if we somehow swing Eliza's mom to our side.
Honestly I think that's the root of it. Eliza is somewhat believable when she falls for you right away - because she's been alone, and then you saved her, and there's a kind of instant connection I think because the same person semi-raised you both. You are both heavily influenced by her father. So somewhat believable. Alice is a little believable but harder, because you were close when you were little but you vanished when she was 10 years old - on the night your parents were murdered - and she's just been waiting for you to come back the whole time - also semi-believable but somewhat creepy if true. The rest are just sort of automatic, they are absolutely, deeply in love with you on sight because you exist and have a penis. It's not believable, and it's boring.
 
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She's worse than Selena imo. At least Selena has the excuse of he sister being held hostage. Brenda just decided she was going to take over the bay, torture the bartender and rape the twins.
But why did Pearl get away with betraying the MC?
A few days earlier the MC could have killed Selena's sister to take revenge on her for betraying their trust, effectively killing someone who was innocent. But when Pearl does the same, he's not even angry.
I probably wouldn't have killed Pearl, but I would've loved actual choices on how to handle her. Like, for instance, treating the twins like their daddy did in a dark path playthrough.

The harem must grow. I won't like Brenda being in the harem but I'll accept it if it happens. In a story where the MC apparently seduces anyone just being in the area, it would be nice to have a female antagonist that isn't phased by it.
Just refuse her? :ROFLMAO:

because she's been alone, and then you saved her, and there's a kind of instant connection I think because the same person semi-raised you both.
There's still something fishy about the whole Eliza situation. She was wandering the woods wearing stilettos. It's really surprising she survived years doing that.
Kidding aside, I do agree with you. At least if the player engages with her romantically. If he doesn't, I honestly don't see the progression. This MC would keep Eliza at arm's distance the entire time, but still moves mountains for her.
It's also kinda funny how you can pick all the negative choices, and then just agree to be with her when the major choice appears, then it'd be like they've always been that way. :ROFLMAO:
 
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But why did Pearl get away with betraying the MC?
Because I don't consider Pearl as having betrayed the mc. She didn't know about Eliza and was told that Kira was going to die if she didnt steal whatever the mc was after and she immidently jumped ship.

I also don't really have a huge hate boner on Selena and would probably be able to look past everything if it didn't result in Eliza getting paralyzed. The biggest difference between Pearl and Selena is that no harm came out of anything Pearl did
 

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Because I don't consider Pearl as having betrayed the mc. She didn't know about Eliza and was told that Kira was going to die if she didnt steal whatever the mc was after and she immidently jumped ship.

I also don't really have a huge hate boner on Selena and would probably be able to look past everything if it didn't result in Eliza getting paralyzed. The biggest difference between Pearl and Selena is that no harm came out of anything Pearl did
not just that for me up to what I played ( ive yet to play chapter 5) Peral felt really bad and way more remorseful than Selena imo. It was to the point she didn't think she should be allowed around the MC anymore
 

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Id liked to see her dry sucked hull like with Serena,.....:devilish:
That's nice too. But remember how to made the green monster in What a Legend after 2 years of hate, one of the most loving characters of the game ?

Everything is possible... Dry fucking her skull with or without her body is an option too...
 

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She didn't know about Eliza and was told that Kira was going to die if she didnt steal whatever the mc was after and she immidently jumped ship.
I don't know if we can assume that. In later content it's clear that MC & Pearl had a lot of things to say to each other in the two weeks they were traveling to the island.

I also don't really have a huge hate boner on Selena and would probably be able to look past everything if it didn't result in Eliza getting paralyzed. The biggest difference between Pearl and Selena is that no harm came out of anything Pearl did
What if Blackbeard had used the chalice before MC got there? What if these pirates were actually a bit more capable?
No harm came out of anything that Pearl did because the MC was there to fix things. It's not a good argument, because you could say that no harm resulted from anything Selena did either because the MC put things right.

The whole "daddy made me do it" is just too easy of an excuse. I can honestly understand that Pearl betrays the MC to keep Mira safe. What I don't understand is that Pearl later boards the ship to attack Mira, saying that their father ordered her to get rid of her. That she attacked to chase Mira off... What was her plan? "Hey sis, I beat you, so now you have to sail away and never come back"? As if that would've worked with a firecracker like Mira.
That the MC doesn't even have stern words for her is ridiculous, specially when the story gave us plenty of information on how the MC views betrayal, and how a dark-path MC would handle it.
 

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What if Blackbeard had used the chalice before MC got there? What if these pirates were actually a bit more capable?
No harm came out of anything that Pearl did because the MC was there to fix things. It's not a good argument, because you could say that no harm resulted from anything Selena did either because the MC put things right.

The whole "daddy made me do it" is just too easy of an excuse. I can honestly understand that Pearl betrays the MC to keep Mira safe. What I don't understand is that Pearl later boards the ship to attack Mira, saying that their father ordered her to get rid of her. That she attacked to chase Mira off... What was her plan? "Hey sis, I beat you, so now you have to sail away and never come back"? As if that would've worked with a firecracker like Mira.
That the MC doesn't even have stern words for her is ridiculous, specially when the story gave us plenty of information on how the MC views betrayal, and how a dark-path MC would handle it.
You mean Kira, right? :unsure:

According to Pearl she did not attack Kira to kill, she did it to chase her away to save her from her father's wrath. Also, even if they feel close to MC, they'd choose, both of them, their own twin over MC everyday. So that also made sense. We honestly don't know how powerful was Blackbeard, MC dealt with him with ease. (Probably because his lack of potential to become an LI) But Pearl feared him, Kira too. So if he threatened Pearl to kill Kira, that really make sense.

If you are comparing that to Selena. It really is not. One of them puts their so-called friends in active danger. Even after she denies it, she is very well aware Taron was going to kill both MC and Eliza. That's active betrayal. Not even counting she was part of the ambush that Eliza got kidnapped and it was her who lured Eliza away from MC for the ambush. On top of that, she gloated at the cell. She even mentioned how not either MC or Eliza survive the situation. I am still salty that MC can't kill her and let her sister go. She deserved the worst.

In Pearl's situation, she took a chalice to save her own twin sister. It was just another trinket a pirate stole, nothing more. Yes, MC do believe it could help someone she does not know, a person she never met. She did not know if the chalice would work, even if it works would Eliza accepts it, Eliza (a person she only know as MC's friend, if Pearl even know that much) was not going to die, if Eliza did not get the chalice there could be another way to help her too. Her sister was in greater danger than somebody she did not know.

Also, another huge difference, Pearl did not follow through the plan, she helped MC and Kira. Selena did followed through the entire plan, gave MC and Eliza on a silver platter. She was not regretting when MC caught her, she would do all over again for under the same circumstances while Pearl was regretting and she noticed she could have choose another path.
 
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Alice is a little believable but harder, because you were close when you were little but you vanished when she was 10 years old - on the night your parents were murdered - and she's just been waiting for you to come back the whole time - also semi-believable but somewhat creepy if true.
its only creepy out of context.

the classic love before puberty that never dies trope is kind of a real thing. ive a soft spot for a neighbor girl when i was a child. now ive no intention of ever dating her, looking for her, so much as checking her name on facebook and see what pops up. but i always think of her warmly and in a slightly romaticized way. people do that it seems, and i know its not real but whatever when i think of her it happens that way. we were very close, her brother and i were good buddies and he little sister was a mouse of a girl when she wasnt being a total bitch. their family moved before we were teenagers.

for alice specifically, living in a small village where every man was like a creepy uncle or her brother, and no one really leaves, who else is she gonna pine for? in fact the fantasy that MC somehow survived and is out there somewhere, one day to return. think it would be easy for childhood friendship to turn into romantic loved, one sided or not.

its crazy how real life a childhood friendship can evolve into a romantic love and get sealed in ones heart. its only creepy when the person experiencing it turns it into an obsession and never goes on with their life. alice wasnt that, she was already looking at leaving the village, having a life. she just always hoped MC was out there too, to the point that believing him dead and gone would be a betrayal to her own heart.

i still prefer eliza, but keep alice around, she will be necessary to help herd all of MC and Eliza's whelps
 

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its only creepy out of context.

the classic love before puberty that never dies trope is kind of a real thing. ive a soft spot for a neighbor girl when i was a child. now ive no intention of ever dating her, looking for her, so much as checking her name on facebook and see what pops up. but i always think of her warmly and in a slightly romaticized way. people do that it seems, and i know its not real but whatever when i think of her it happens that way. we were very close, her brother and i were good buddies and he little sister was a mouse of a girl when she wasnt being a total bitch. their family moved before we were teenagers.

for alice specifically, living in a small village where every man was like a creepy uncle or her brother, and no one really leaves, who else is she gonna pine for? in fact the fantasy that MC somehow survived and is out there somewhere, one day to return. think it would be easy for childhood friendship to turn into romantic loved, one sided or not.

its crazy how real life a childhood friendship can evolve into a romantic love and get sealed in ones heart. its only creepy when the person experiencing it turns it into an obsession and never goes on with their life. alice wasnt that, she was already looking at leaving the village, having a life. she just always hoped MC was out there too, to the point that believing him dead and gone would be a betrayal to her own heart.

i still prefer eliza, but keep alice around, she will be necessary to help herd all of MC and Eliza's whelps
I can kind of see that in your case, but in a medieval(ish) setting I still find it weird. Life expectancy was much lower and people die frequently. I mean in a very, very early context that's kind of what the Winter Solstice celebration (later Christmas) was about - you gather the family and have a huge feast before dipping into winter because there's a decent chance not all of them will see the spring. So I can see her holding on to him as a kind of fantasy, but whatever happens in that setting you suck it up and move on with life. So I still find the idea of her just sitting there and waiting for him for a decade and then just sort of being "finally, there you are - well, let's get on with that adventuring" to be ... unhealthy at the very least.
 

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You mean Kira, right? :unsure:
Yep, you're right.

According to Pearl she did not attack Kira to kill, she did it to chase her away to save her from her father's wrath.
I mentioned this as well. With what we know of Kira, would that have worked? Wouldn't her twin know this? What would Pearl have done if Kira had lost and refused to leave?

So that also made sense.
I'm not saying it makes no sense for Pearl to do this. I specifically said: "I can honestly understand that Pearl betrays the MC to keep Mira safe."
What I'm saying that even if the MC understands _why_ she did it, he doesn't _have_ to agree with it or her methods. They spent many evenings together between visiting Blackbeard and arriving at the island. At any point, Pearl could've confided in him instead of stealing the artifact.

If you are comparing that to Selena. It really is not. One of them puts their so-called friends in active danger. Even after she denies it, she is very well aware Taron was going to kill both MC and Eliza. That's active betrayal. Not even counting she was part of the ambush that Eliza got kidnapped and it was her who lured Eliza away from MC for the ambush. On top of that, she gloated at the cell. She even mentioned how not either MC or Eliza survive the situation. I am still salty that MC can't kill her and let her sister go. She deserved the worst.
But we were looking at the end result regarding Pearl, right? In the case of Eliza, she's said several times that she now feels better than ever. If we take her at her word, then the worst aspect of those two months of being unable to walk, was the MC being away from her.
Playing devil's advocate, I could say that Selena acts out at the cell because she wanted to gain Taron's trust and cooperation, or that she was overreacting because of feeling guilty.
While their methods were different, what Pearl did wasn't that different from what Selena did. Pearl was putting her sister's wellbeing over that of Eliza & the MC. In Selena's case, the MC could've murdered her sister in cold blood to get even. Pearl doesn't even get an angry look.
You don't sense a certain imbalance there?

Yes, MC do believe it could help someone she does not know, a person she never met. She did not know if the chalice would work, even if it works would Eliza accepts it, Eliza (a person she only know as MC's friend, if Pearl even know that much) was not going to die, if Eliza did not get the chalice there could be another way to help her too. Her sister was in greater danger than somebody she did not know.
All of this has no bearing on how the MC should feel about the chalice getting stolen by someone he trusted.
He's at this island because it's said to contain the only artifact able to heal Eliza. And Pearl steals it, dooming Eliza to never walk again.
He's at that island because he feels he failed to keep Eliza safe, that he's responsible... That getting her to walk again would absolve him. It would be his every right to be furious with Pearl.

Also, another huge difference, Pearl did not follow through the plan, she helped MC and Kira.
That's fair. But should that mean that all is forgiven? That the trust that was lost is entirely gained back?
Would the MC who murdered Selena's sister just let it go? Or would a guy like that want something to hold over Pearl to make sure she'll never betray him again?

So I still find the idea of her just sitting there and waiting for him for a decade and then just sort of being "finally, there you are - well, let's get on with that adventuring" to be ... unhealthy at the very least.
This is an aspect of this game's writing that I don't really enjoy either. For some reason, every LI has to be pure. None of the women have ever been with a man, except for the MILF who says she only had sex once in her life. It's ridiculous how this world is filled with 20 y/o virgins. Even that sex-craving Brenda-chick went out of her way to say that she's only been with her toys.
 
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