VN Ren'Py Nephilim [v0.5.5] [BuuPlays]

[Krytax123]

To be Very Honest you get the same choices with pretty much every other "LI" and having a choice for the friend or romance choices many times per char just helps if you feel 1 interaction isn't how you want well there is another that can persuade you to liking them.

The Romance or Friendship choices even though they are rather pressured onto you it is again to help keep the main characters interactive and progressive with the story overall because it seems most the LIs have far reaching plots that can/will affect the story throughout the journey.

I Rather this try again method option myself instead of specific single interactions with Choice Locking for LIs to then 90% of their content gone because you don't like their first interaction with them but when they have a big bearing in the story it sure wrecks a fair bit.

Just think what if you turned her down on the first interaction and it locked you out and then having her then sour at you to then have you miss all her content with her and her sister and well the whole pirate stint even.


I get some people don't like every LI but that is life and that means we all get things we don't like.

Deal with it, We do.

Yeah nah bro you dont get the point.

What you say is true and its indeed good to get multiple opportunitys and to be able to revert a former choice about a LI if we want to BUT it should come from the MC the second time.

Like if the MC already said no to a girl but she just keeps going, it makes her look pathetic and greedy for some, i for example tend to not really like girls who lack self respect.

So yeah instead of potraying the LI as some kind of creep always looking for physical contanct after she got told off is not the best way of doing it.

 

[TigerWolfe]

id have to disagree ive seen plenty of games showcase good actions scenes yeah won't ever beat a normal video game but doesn't mean the design of a VN means it shouldn't be done or can't be done in a way that is still exciting or good. Hell the update where Eliza and MC killed those bandits for killing that Wolf is a good example of a good action scene yeah other games have done better ones but it was still good.

Just because it can be done, does not mean that it is the ideal medium for doing it. If action scenes are your goal, the AVN-o-sphere is not the place to go.

 

[Krytax123]

Just because it can be done, does not mean that it is the ideal medium for doing it. If action scenes are your goal, the AVN-o-sphere is not the place to go.

Stupid argument, the avn medium isnt ideal for lewds either and yet here we are..

Its used because its a great (and comparatively simple) way to tell storys and this is partially a action story.

 

[Dessolos]

Just because it can be done, does not mean that it is the ideal medium for doing it. If action scenes are your goal, the AVN-o-sphere is not the place to go.

I mean yeah obviously AVN's aren't the best place to do it and I don't think anyone is saying AVN's need to be full of action scenes , I doubt anyone is playing these or reading books for actions scenes. They should still be done depending on the game of course, and context. Playing a fantasy game without any action scenes would be weird and pointless and rather boring. Action scenes do not need to be nearly as good as a AAA game to be exciting. It's all in the execution of the renders and context of the scene that matters. Otherwise you can say the same thing about a novel / book that they shouldn't do action scenes either cause it isn't a good medium for doing it. It's not hard to understand why a fantasy game can feel a bit stale to some when going long periods of time without any kind of action , since it's an ideal setting for such scenes.

 

[jadepaladin]

Why the hate for Kira? I liked her as a character. TBH her and Amelia share a lot in common character wise, yet people hate Kira but love Amelia. Or is it just tied to what happened to Eliza and when she was introduced?
I mean that whole journey felt like a nod to Greek epics, with the inclusion of meeting gods to seal the comparison.
Having my own ship(s), crew, and captain(s) at my beck and call will come in handy when the estate starts to grow.

But why all the insistence between the characters on monogamy? It's supposedly a poly world, accepted and even expected. Completely social norm, yet every woman thinks it's monogamous? Why?

I liked the journey to retrieve a relic in order to save Eliza. Kira gets introduced and she's a hardass but over time you just realize she's tsundere. Then out of nowhere, plot twist, we're going to daddy. MC rightly gets mad, and has all the power in this scenario to ruin her, and then just forgives her. No big deal, you're not literally impeding my progress in order to save the love of my life or anything, especially when I haven't known you but a couple of weeks tops. Then once all that gets sorted she gets rammed down your throat on the island. If you're fucking anything that moves...or just wanna fuck Kira, it's probably fine, but if you're really not interested in Kira, the game does not take a hint, and I don't understand how it got out of playtesting.

You get to fucking Kira (or not) and then Pearl pulls her shit. I can understand why Pearl did what she did, but he literally forgives her before they even get out of the chamber. Never mind she's taking the thing you need to save Eliza, we can't hurt Kira's feelings by being mad at her sister. All to set up a Kira/Pearl action piece that's over in less than 10 minutes, hatchet buried, daddy is the problem, let's go.

It's not like I need AVNs to be Shakespeare or even super logical sometimes, I can suspend belief if I'm being entertained. This wasn't entertaining at all to me, and actually caused me to stop reading for about a week or so before picking it back up.


TLDR- I don't care for Kira because she made a dumb decision, got off free for it, got shoved down our throats, watched her sister also make a dumb decision, and watched her also get off free for it.

 

[TigerWolfe]

Stupid argument, the avn medium isnt ideal for lewds either and yet here we are..

Its used because its a great (and comparatively simple) way to tell storys and this is partially a action story.

Still images have been used for lewds literally since we figured out how to make still images... I have no idea how you've come to your conclusion. It is wildly out of pocket to me.

 

[TigerWolfe]

I mean yeah obviously AVN's aren't the best place to do it and I don't think anyone is saying AVN's need to be full of action scenes , I doubt anyone is playing these or reading books for actions scenes. They should still be done depending on the game of course, and context. Playing a fantasy game without any action scenes would be weird and pointless and rather boring. Action scenes do not need to be nearly as good as a AAA game to be exciting. It's all in the execution of the renders and context of the scene that matters. Otherwise you can say the same thing about a novel / book that they shouldn't do action scenes either cause it isn't a good medium for doing it. It's not hard to understand why a fantasy game can feel a bit stale to some when going long periods of time without any kind of action , since it's an ideal setting for such scenes.

I'm not advocating for no action scenes, I just think complaining about the quantity or quality of them, in this medium... is silly.

 

[MiltonPowers]

TLDR- I don't care for Kira because she made a dumb decision, got off free for it, got shoved down our throats, watched her sister also make a dumb decision, and watched her also get off free for it.

I gave Pearl more forgiveness than Kira. I understand why she did it, her sister was going to be killed if she didn't. She could have done it differently and asked MC for help, but she was trying to save her sister's life. She was extremely remorseful and apologized multiple times.

While Kira broke her promise because she was jealous that Daddy liked Pearl more. And I don't remember her at any time apologizing, just saying 'what's done is done'. And MC saying I'll never trust you again, but let's make out.

Considering we were allowed to go scorched earth on Selena's betrayal, it was disappointing and surprising that we couldn't even be angry and upset at Kira for longer than 2 sentences.

 

[ArashiNinja18]

Still no blackmail tag? That's pretty wild considering that's what the villain of the story does to the chick that runs the stable with the sister and the chick with the mom that has to figure out how to unseal the sword. Dude blackmails both of them and the maid as well. Blackmailed her and forced her to lie.

 

[TrixRabbit]

I never liked either of them, even before the betrayal. Kinda sad that we’re still following their story because I don’t care what becomes of them. If I needed another ship, I would go to someone else.

 

[TrixRabbit]

Still no blackmail tag? That's pretty wild considering that's what the villain of the story does to the chick that runs the stable with the sister and the chick with the mom that has to figure out how to unseal the sword. Dude blackmails both of them and the maid as well. Blackmailed her and forced her to lie.

In adult games the blackmail tag usually implies blackmail for sex.

 

[marvelfreak3000]

Still dont have the compressed version yet?

 

[MiltonPowers]

Still dont have the compressed version yet?

Yes, SonsofLiberty posted it 3 or 4 days ago. Search by compressed and his name, you'll find it.

 

[Krytax123]

Still images have been used for lewds literally since we figured out how to make still images... I have no idea how you've come to your conclusion. It is wildly out of pocket to me.

I'm not advocating for no action scenes, I just think complaining about the quantity or quality of them, in this medium... is silly.

Bro the starting point of this discussion was too many lewds = not enough plot development/action scenes.

The dev uses animations for the lewds as still imagines are not ideal for lewds. And the dev isnt even using animations for the action scenes.

Furthermore we had pretty good action scenes since the beginning, the fight against the assassin is pretty good for example imo.

 

[TheNowhereWolf]

Caught up on what there is so far, I did spoil myself intentionally after reading stuff here that made me think I'd hate this. For me I hate LI's being harmed at all, just not something I want to see, It's so much worse when the baby dick asshole who does it keeps getting away. I assume LI's in danger will continue to be a thing going forward now so I will simply hope Eliza doesn't have to suffer more, though I expect she will whenever the vampire king creep makes an appearance.

Only have a few things that really bothered me, first being Taron or as I have renamed him Taron Baby Dick, he needs to go at this point. Really bored of him always being there and he Is once again threatening the guild so that'll be fun. I could also really do without Ellen, don't care if she is Eliza's mum the Bi shit is annoying. The pirate stuff after we get back to the city wasn't super interesting, Kelly's dad has pulled a Taron and outstayed his welcome.

The characters themselves are the strong point here for me, I feel like it's not a new sentiment here but Eliza Is by far the best girl, Trouble is a close second. Every Interaction between MC and Eliza has been the highlight of this for me, one that stands out because It was weirdly wholesome Is when she is bed bound and as MC comes into the room she just asks to be lifted Instead of breaking down. Despite hating the many "are you sure" prompts for Kira when we are supposed to be focused on curing Eliza, she did kind of ware me down by the end of that arc but It felt weird being even a little close with someone else considering the reason for the trip.

It's 4:30am I am exhausted and I have forgot what else I wanted to say.

 

[TrixRabbit]

Something has gone seriously wrong with my game - it's not letting me make choices. It flashes the screen up the auto selects the first choice and then moves on.

 

[TrixRabbit]

Caught up on what there is so far, I did spoil myself intentionally after reading stuff here that made me think I'd hate this. For me I hate LI's being harmed at all, just not something I want to see, It's so much worse when the baby dick asshole who does it keeps getting away. I assume LI's in danger will continue to be a thing going forward now so I will simply hope Eliza doesn't have to suffer more, though I expect she will whenever the vampire king creep makes an appearance.

Only have a few things that really bothered me, first being Taron or as I have renamed him Taron Baby Dick, he needs to go at this point. Really bored of him always being there and he Is once again threatening the guild so that'll be fun. I could also really do without Ellen, don't care if she is Eliza's mum the Bi shit is annoying. The pirate stuff after we get back to the city wasn't super interesting, Kelly's dad has pulled a Taron and outstayed his welcome.

The characters themselves are the strong point here for me, I feel like it's not a new sentiment here but Eliza Is by far the best girl, Trouble is a close second. Every Interaction between MC and Eliza has been the highlight of this for me, one that stands out because It was weirdly wholesome Is when she is bed bound and as MC comes into the room she just asks to be lifted Instead of breaking down. Despite hating the many "are you sure" prompts for Kira when we are supposed to be focused on curing Eliza, she did kind of ware me down by the end of that arc but It felt weird being even a little close with someone else considering the reason for the trip.

It's 4:30am I am exhausted and I have forgot what else I wanted to say.

Agree. Eliza is the best girl. I wish I could just automatically say no to everything with all the other girls and just have more time with Eliza. Dev says that for updates from December of this year to July of next year, MC is going to be going on a long journey. I'm going to be really upset if he doesn't take Eliza this time. 8 months with no new Eliza scenes would be terrible. I think I'd just have to wait until MC got back to play again and speed run through the 'long journey'. Like your sig(s) by the way. Cece was my only girl in Leap of Faith - blew off all the others from the first time I met her. I went with Mora in Bare Witness though (Mora turned out to be pretty amazing, fanatically loyal and surprisingly a total badass when MC was in danger.)

 

[MiltonPowers]

Something has gone seriously wrong with my game - it's not letting me make choices. It flashes the screen up the auto selects the first choice and then moves on.

I bet you have Knox Mod installed (it makes the choices for you)

Right click, go to preferences. And top right you can disable mod integration.

 

[TrixRabbit]

I bet you have Knox Mod installed (it makes the choices for you)

Right click, go to preferences. And top right you can disable mod integration.

Cool, I'll have a look. I have a WT installed but not sure which one.

Edit: That fixed it, thanks! Almost said yes to a romantic relationship with the Princess. How would that even work? Yes, I married the princess and I'm the king, even though I live on a farm outside of town, on a farm, with a different woman who I like way better.

 

[jadepaladin]

Cool, I'll have a look. I have a WT installed but not sure which one.

Edit: That fixed it, thanks! Almost said yes to a romantic relationship with the Princess. How would that even work? Yes, I married the princess and I'm the king, even though I live on a farm outside of town, on a farm, with a different woman who I like way better.

I wondered how the princess storyline would play out too and then I realized on a full harem path you'd have a kingdom full of women you've been intimate with, bastards everywhere.

Also, +1 for Mora from Bare Witness. No regrets whatsoever about my choices there.