VN Ren'Py Nephilim [v0.5.5] [BuuPlays]

[Harem4life]

Discussion is about how strong the mc is compared to everyone else. He's stronger than the skeletons, there was nothing they could do against him other than. I personally don't even consider to be a "fight" since it's just the mc going against multiple waves of nameless, faceless, enemies. I mean the discussion before was about how the mc needed to get stronger so he doesn't struggle in a fight and he unless he unlocks and infinite stamina at some point he's still going to get tired when fighting to many people no matter how strong he gets. Just like how earlier I said that Taron is a threat mostly because of his influence and the fact he goes after others and isn't directly stronger than the mc. The skeletons arent directly stronger than the mc either.

As for Diana, not really. She stabbed him in the vitals and he got knocked down, managed to get back up later because of the cyrstals and he should have died, twice. He lost 2 out of 3 rounds and only managed to tie on the final round.

In short, Diana made MC her bitch on multiple occasions. If MC didn't have his regeneration ability he would have died.

So a literal powerful being got his ass kicked by an above avg human being but a human being none the less and for what? So that he could be in a bed with her half naked?

 

[Dessolos]

In short, Diana made MC her bitch on multiple occasions. If MC didn't have his regeneration ability he would have died.

So a literal powerful being got his ass kicked by an above avg human being but a human being none the less and for what? So that he could be in a bed with her half naked?

tbh I always thought the MC was a bit of a weak fighter he relies on his powers to much.

 

[storm1051787]

In short, Diana made MC her bitch on multiple occasions. If MC didn't have his regeneration ability he would have died.

So a literal powerful being got his ass kicked by an above avg human being but a human being none the less and for what? So that he could be in a bed with her half naked?

She's not really just an above average human, she's a descendant of the ancients, didn't the dev say that ancients are on par with the minor gods? I don't really see why mc losing is all that shocking other than the fact he hasn't lost until now. Yeah mc's dad is more powerful than Diana's ancestor, but it's not like either of them are normal people. Diana's just had more training with her powers.

 

[jaxofalltrades]

In short, Diana made MC her bitch on multiple occasions. If MC didn't have his regeneration ability he would have died.

So a literal powerful being got his ass kicked by an above avg human being but a human being none the less and for what? So that he could be in a bed with her half naked?

tbh I always thought the MC was a bit of a weak fighter he relies on his powers to much.

Plus the whole point of most of the game thus far has been that the MC is not up to his full potential of power yet. Otherwise, he wouldn't be collecting all these different powers on his adventures. He needs more training to strengthen his powers, especially since it's not an endless well of power and he has to recharge depending on what he's done that day. Training with Diana will probably be more beneficial than when he trained with Rin as a child since he's not as familiar with water/ice magic.

 

[Harem4life]

She's not really just an above average human though descendant of the ancients, didn't the dev say that ancients are on par with the minor gods? I don't really see why mc losing is all that shocking other than the fact he hasn't lost until now. Yeah mc's dad is more powerful than Diana's ancestor, but it's not like either of them are normal people. Diana's just had more training with her powers.

Naah, I didn't like how many close calls were there. Diana should not be anywhere close to MC even if he is at, let's say, 10% of his potential. If diana is a descendant of the ancients then MC is a literal nephilim and his family is full of gods.

MC should have just delayed the final blow and when it was time he should have finished the fight by defeating her. He even went on to say that she's better.

I also think people are defending her because she's a good looking girl. If diana was a guy everyone would have wanted MC to kill him.

I just didn't like how many close calls were there and MC didn't even have the upper hand at the end.

 

[darkingthoe6]

 

[Pixillin']

tbh I always thought the MC was a bit of a weak fighter he relies on his powers to much.

Which is weird since he apparently trained for 10 years without any powers and at least once fought goblins that way.

 

[Maviarab]

He needs more training to strengthen his powers,

Yeah ain't no one got time for that shit when there's women to collect.

Training with Diana will probably be more beneficial

Training huh...is that what the kids are calling it these days?

 

[SuperiorWhite]

Who cares about such minor details? If you havent noticed yet, the Story is shit and gets worse with every update.
It started good with some background Story - Childhood live, loving Parents, Childhood love and a purpose = revenge.
The journey to his hometown - reconnecting with his Childhood love - all good and well.
The journey to the capital - "bonding" with eliza - all good and well...
But then, after reaching the capital, it all went down the drain and Buu decided to throw every single woman, the MC encounters, onto his dick.
(Think about it - the only women we havent fucked are the bandid girl and the woman at the pub and this was before we reached the capital, but after - every girl we saw, we fucked - or have the chance to in the future (Sabrina, Diana, the Princess, the Witch and probably her Mother too - just to name a few)) but there is no purpose anymore, the MC gets played like a toy, makes rash, stupid decisions, but at least he gets his dick wet.
And boy dont let me start with the dialoges.. because every girl in this Story has the same personality

 

[darkingthoe6]

New update

 

[Pixillin']

Who cares about such minor details? If you havent noticed yet, the Story is shit and gets worse with every update.
It started good with some background Story - Childhood live, loving Parents, Childhood love and a purpose = revenge.
The journey to his hometown - reconnecting with his Childhood love - all good and well.
The journey to the capital - "bonding" with eliza - all good and well...
But then, after reaching the capital, it all went down the drain and Buu decided to throw every single woman, the MC encounters, onto his dick.
(Think about it - the only women we havent fucked are the bandid girl and the woman at the pub and this was before we reached the capital, but after - every girl we saw, we fucked - or have the chance to in the future (Sabrina, Diana, the Princess, the Witch and probably her Mother too - just to name a few)) but there is no purpose anymore, the MC gets played like a toy, makes rash, stupid decisions, but at least he gets his dick wet.
And boy dont let me start with the dialoges.. because every girl in this Story has the same personality

The only woman I've been with so far as Eliza, I'm treating the current "journey" as a basically a long unskippable ad break in the story.

Training huh...is that what the kids are calling it these days?

He already did a decade of training without his powers. Even in the most basic military in the world - if you haven't figured out how to fight after 10 years of training, they either show you the door or find you a desk job.

 

[jadepaladin]

He already did a decade of training without his powers. Even in the most basic military in the world - if you haven't figured out how to fight after 10 years of training, they either show you the door or find you a desk job.

Except he's not in any military being trained. He's a self taught adventurer that comes with all of the bad habits of being self taught. He have been dead long ago if not for his mentor and his powers. Diana should have been a humbling experience but like Mav said, actual character growth gets in the way when you've got women to collect. I know that last part doesn't apply to you, Pix, but it needs to be said all the same.

He barely eeks out a victory against Diana and instead of reflecting on it, pulls a Shepard and says "we'll bang, okay." Then goes to the island where he just repeats it over and over to the island girls.

 

[Pixillin']

Except he's not in any military being trained. He's a self taught adventurer that comes with all of the bad habits of being self taught. He have been dead long ago if not for his mentor and his powers. Diana should have been a humbling experience but like Mav said, actual character growth gets in the way when you've got women to collect. I know that last part doesn't apply to you, Pix, but it needs to be said all the same.

He barely eeks out a victory against Diana and instead of reflecting on it, pulls a Shepard and says "we'll bang, okay." Then goes to the island where he just repeats it over and over to the island girls.

Except that he's not really self taught, Eliza's dad was supposed to be the one training him and was supposed to be pretty good. We don't have full details but we know he had at least one fight with goblins (though it looks like it might not have gone well for him). At any rate, training is what the 10 year absence was supposed to be about - well training and hiding. So he should have about as much training as Diana - just not with his powers, those are relatively new.

 

[jadepaladin]

Except that he's not really self taught, Eliza's dad was supposed to be the one training him and was supposed to be pretty good. We don't have full details but we know he had at least one fight with goblins (though it looks like it might not have gone well for him). At any rate, training is what the 10 year absence was supposed to be about - well training and hiding. So he should have about as much training as Diana - just not with his powers, those are relatively new.

I think we interpreted the story differently, and that's fine.

 

[storm1051787]

Except he's not in any military being trained. He's a self taught adventurer that comes with all of the bad habits of being self taught. He have been dead long ago if not for his mentor and his powers. Diana should have been a humbling experience but like Mav said, actual character growth gets in the way when you've got women to collect. I know that last part doesn't apply to you, Pix, but it needs to be said all the same.

He barely eeks out a victory against Diana and instead of reflecting on it, pulls a Shepard and says "we'll bang, okay." Then goes to the island where he just repeats it over and over to the island girls.

He's not self taught He was trained by a former knight and by an order of assassins. He had actual mentors and teachers for most of those 10 years and only became on his own right before the story started.


And he didn't eek out a victory over Diana at all. He lost straight up, he even admits it himself that she's stronger than he is. He lost round 1. Manages to recover and get back in the fight become of his regen abilities, loses round 2 and gets back in the fight for the same reason, then there is a double knock out in round 3.That's two loses and 1 draw.


I don't really get why people are making a big deal out of the Diana thing though, he's not a normal Human and she's not a normal human. Mc has more potential, but she's had better training and more experience.

 

[Pixillin']

He's not self taught He was trained by a former knight and by an order of assassins. He had actual mentors and teachers for most of those 10 years and only became on his own right before the story started.


And he didn't eek out a victory over Diana at all. He lost straight up, he even admits it himself that she's stronger than he is. He lost round 1. Manages to recover and get back in the fight become of his regen abilities, loses round 2 and gets back in the fight for the same reason, then there is a double knock out in round 3.That's two loses and 1 draw.


I don't really get why people are making a big deal out of the Diana thing though, he's not a normal Human and she's not a normal human. Mc has more potential, but she's had better training and more experience.

I don't really care. MC's powers are good enough most of the time and growing. I hope to finish this little island vacation, get back to port, say goodbye to Diana and the Pirate Twins (ideally forever) and then get back to the story. If it was up to me, I wouldn't have gotten into a fight with Diana in the first place, there was nothing to fight about.

 

[Dessolos]

I don't really care. MC's powers are good enough most of the time and growing. I hope to finish this little island vacation, get back to port, say goodbye to Diana and the Pirate Twins (ideally forever) and then get back to the story. If it was up to me, I wouldn't have gotten into a fight with Diana in the first place, there was nothing to fight about.

Expect Diana is the one that started the fight so you would have to defend yourself. Now if you got what you wanted you would of never left so you would never even would of met Diana.

 

[Pixillin']

Expect Diana is the one that started the fight so you would have to defend yourself. Now if you got what you wanted you would of never left so you would never even would of met Diana.

That's true, which would have been excellent but she didn't *really* start the fight. The MC got in her way and after she asked him several times, refused to let her do her job. It's not like she just attacked him out of the blue.

 

[Dessolos]

That's true, which would have been excellent but she didn't *really* start the fight. The MC got in her way and after she asked him several times, refused to let her do her job. It's not like she just attacked him out of the blue.

Now this is if I remember the scene correctly only seen it once so I could be way wrong.

maybe but I see her as the attacker as she was the aggressor in my eyes. I don't think she even really gave the MC much chance to talk as far as I can recall. If I recall correctly when she found out he knew the pirates and was trying to get her to let them go and was working for the Kingdom she branded him as traitor and attacked.

Like yeah from her pov I can see why she would attack but I still see her being the hostile one not really allowing the MC proper chance to explain or talk very much. As to me I don't see the MC being much of a threat her at that point to warrant a attack even if she considers him a traitor. But I am a little biased as one thing I hate in games or whatever is when a character attacks over an assumption without letting someone explain fully unless you know that character is meant to be a bad guy / evil or just an asshole .

 

[Pixillin']

Now this is if I remember the scene correctly only seen it once so I could be way wrong.

maybe but I see her as the attacker as she was the aggressor in my eyes. I don't think she even really gave the MC much chance to talk as far as I can recall. If I recall correctly when she found out he knew the pirates and was trying to get her to let them go and was working for the Kingdom she branded him as traitor and attacked.

Like yeah from her pov I can see why she would attack but I still see her being the hostile one not really allowing the MC proper chance to explain or talk very much. As to me I don't see the MC being much of a threat her at that point to warrant a attack even if she considers him a traitor. But I am a little biased as one thing I hate in games or whatever is when a character attacks over an assumption without letting someone explain fully unless you know that character is meant to be a bad guy / evil or just an asshole .

I could be wrong to. I only played it once, the day it came out but IIRC she asked him several times - with increasing levels of anger - to stand aside. From my POV, she took the first swing but it was MC's fault because she warned him that she wasn't having it.