VN Ren'Py Nephilim [v0.5.9] [BuuPlays]

[TKdropemoff]

guess i am the only sick bastard who only plays the dark path? if you can really call it that tbh... A real dark path was if i had the choice to kill selene and take her sister as a sex slave...

But I digress...

Like i legit felt nothing when eliza killed that woman...

But i can understand the people who play the light path and didn't like it.
to me, i think it would have been important for a choice in that matter.

But for me? I could care less about that woman.

other than that, solid update.

 

[Dessolos]

guess i am the only sick bastard who only plays the dark path? if you can really call it that tbh...
like i legit felt nothing when eliza killed that woman...

But i can understand the people who play the light path and didn't like it.
to me, i think it would have been important for a choice in that matter.

But for me? I am fine with it since, I could care less about that woman.

I played in the middle. If someone fucked with my sweet Eliza they got killed like the stable girl. I kind of didn't feel anything either and did at the same time cause I knew it was going to happen and kind of accepted the change to her character. So to me it wasn't the biggest deal in the world as I knew it was coming but it was equally hard to see and trully accept the changes to her character. I mean I can accept it just because I love the character but it is hard to do so. Now if she becomes a ripper and goes on a killing spree idk. id probably still play this game cause id love it but would not be able to accept that change.

 

[TigerWolfe]

guess i am the only sick bastard who only plays the dark path? if you can really call it that tbh... A real dark path was if i had the choice to kill selene and take her sister as a sex slave...

But I digress...

Like i legit felt nothing when eliza killed that woman...

But i can understand the people who play the light path and didn't like it.
to me, i think it would have been important for a choice in that matter.

But for me? I could care less about that woman.

other than that, solid update.

Based off of the swarm of complaints at the time... no you are not the only person who thinks murder is an equivalent reaction to harm caused under duress...

 

[BuuPlays]

Hey everyone!
Thank you all a bunch for your feedback, it's greatly appreciated.

As some of you have pointed out, you would like a choice if Eliza kills the barmaid or let her live, and I have decided to add such a choice and some scene /dialogue change coming with the next update (February), if you wish to change the outcome you will have to replay that scene and make the choice to have her stop.

Have a great weekend everyone.

 

[kibaris]

since Eliza is supposed to be unable to control herself, wouldn't it be better to give it to the mc to intervene just in time?

 

[Dessolos]

Hey everyone!
Thank you all a bunch for your feedback, it's greatly appreciated.

As some of you have pointed out, you would like a choice if Eliza kills the barmaid or let her live, and I have decided to add such a choice and some scene /dialogue change coming with the next update (February), if you wish to change the outcome you will have to replay that scene and make the choice to have her stop.

Have a great weekend everyone.

Glad to hear it, while I didn't have a major problem with this one since it was expected it i'm glad you are listening to feedback. This changes makes me think I won't have as a hard time accepting her change as I thought I might in the future. Can't wait to see this change and you got me curious more on the dialogue changes. I'm hoping it isn't just for this choice but also to the dark choice where she kill the barmaid. As I did think their talk about her guilt and all that was a bit quick to really show her guilt.

 

[Daddy-S]

I have been enjoying this vn for awhile now and had no complaints at all till now. Being a few updates behind as I like to play more content at a time, I just got to the island with Kira. I have turned her down 10 times in the last 20 mins and the game basically ignores it and keeps throwing her at mc. She is still lying on mc naked he is still getting hard and having thoughts about her ass while she is licking mc's face and rubbing her tits on mc, like dude I am not interested and you give me the option not once not twice but 10+ times and I pick no every time maybe in a few more renders saying no for the 12th time will do it?. Is this a common occurrence and I have been lucky to pick dev's canon up till this point?

I literally picked friendship 2 renders ago and mc is talking about exploring her ass, 4 more times turning her down and I am staring at her pussy. It's annoying when you are given choices but they are not respected, I would rather Kira was forced on mc than this. Also I just saved Kelly from the creepy rapey pervert and knocked him out, after this there was no aftermath no conversation with the captain, no conversation with the creep just ignored afterwards like it never happened.

Similar when Kelly's dad comes back I blow his ship away and the girls father is swimming with the sharks but its never mentioned afterwards like these "big" scenes happen and no one cares just carry on, nothing to see here.

 

[Dessolos]

I have been enjoying this vn for awhile now and had no complaints at all till now. Being a few updates behind as I like to play more content at a time, I just got to the island with Kira. I have turned her down 10 times in the last 20 mins and the game basically ignores it and keeps throwing her at mc. She is still lying on mc naked he is still getting hard and having thoughts about her ass while she is licking mc's face and rubbing her tits on mc, like dude I am not interested and you give me the option not once not twice but 10+ times and I pick no every time maybe in a few more renders saying no for the 12th time will do it?. Is this a common occurrence and I have been lucky to pick dev's canon up till this point?

I literally picked friendship 2 renders ago and mc is talking about exploring her ass, 4 more times turning her down and I am staring at her pussy. It's annoying when you are given choices but they are not respected, I would rather Kira was forced on mc than this. Also I just saved Kelly from the creepy rapey pervert and knocked him out, after this there was no aftermath no conversation with the captain, no conversation with the creep just ignored afterwards like it never happened.

yeah I think everyone hated that about Kira I think that is the only time I saw something like that. I managed to see the positive in the fact it never went beyond a kiss without player input. As well I thought it gave some okay character development for her character if you got past her not respecting your decision to reject her but it was 100% unnecessary for said character deveolopment.

 

[DrSoong]

Hey everyone!
Thank you all a bunch for your feedback, it's greatly appreciated.

As some of you have pointed out, you would like a choice if Eliza kills the barmaid or let her live, and I have decided to add such a choice and some scene /dialogue change coming with the next update (February), if you wish to change the outcome you will have to replay that scene and make the choice to have her stop.

Have a great weekend everyone.

You could make it decided by the path the MC is on, on the light path he intervenes on time, on the dark path he doesn't (so the choice is made by the previous decisions of the player).

 

[Tremonia]

As some of you have pointed out, you would like a choice if Eliza kills the barmaid or let her live, and I have decided to add such a choice and some scene /dialogue change coming with the next update (February), if you wish to change the outcome you will have to replay that scene and make the choice to have her stop.

I would appreciate a choice to let her become a monster or not to begin with.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

Hey everyone!
Thank you all a bunch for your feedback, it's greatly appreciated.

As some of you have pointed out, you would like a choice if Eliza kills the barmaid or let her live, and I have decided to add such a choice and some scene /dialogue change coming with the next update (February), if you wish to change the outcome you will have to replay that scene and make the choice to have her stop.

Have a great weekend everyone.

This grumpy old bastard is so pleased with that decision I could buy you a beer, several beers in fact.

 

[Dessolos]

This grumpy old bastard is so pleased with that decision I could buy you a beer, several beers in fact.

I think everyone is happy with this, might need to take all of us out for beers to celebrate this change

 

[Maviarab]

This grumpy old bastard is so pleased with that decision I could buy you a beer, several beers in fact.

I think everyone is happy with this, might need to take all of us out for beers to celebrate this change

Just be sure to keep your eye on the serving staff though...you know...just in case...*shrugs*...shit happens, jus' sayin'....

 

[Ram5233]

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[Grumpy Old Aussie]

I think everyone is happy with this, might need to take all of us out for beers to celebrate this change

Only if I get to use your credit card

 

[Ayyar]

I would appreciate a choice to let her become a monster or not to begin with.

While that would be my preference too, I do understand the reality of how much that would complicate the story going forwards. At least two different renders every time Eliza is on scene, not to mention how other story beats might need to change based on whether or not she's a vampire, not least of which is that without it she will continue to be paralyzed and unable to walk for the foreseeable future. And while i liked her interactions with the fairy and dwarf it would be a lot of dev time to keep those twin storylines going in tandem.

Overall this is a positive change and I'm glad Buu is taking some feedback on this one.

 

[Tremonia]

While that would be my preference too, I do understand the reality of how much that would complicate the story going forwards.

Well, it doesn't complicate anything. Just tell the story in another way. There's nothing "light" about the "light path" anymore. That one stupid scene destroyed the whole game. Except the author wants to show that we, the players, are the baddies and MC is the villain in this game. In that case it's a good decision. Anyway, I'm rooting for Taron. He was right from the beginning. Shame he couldn't kill the Nephilim when that little bastard was a kid.

 

[Dessolos]

Not gonna lie I never thought Light Path was ever gonna mean good in this game just probably less bad / evil . This next bit of my post I think it depends on your point of view. But I always assumed most characters expect a few select ones all had some bad / or evil tendencies, especially considering the setting this game takes place in. I still think Taron is more evil than the MC , granted ive yet to do a pure dark playthrough, so other than the stable girl ( forgot her name) I don't how evil you really can be. I played more in the middle. But I view the MC as something like a Grey Jedi where he will do what he thinks is necessary to help people or stop evil doers even if isn't good or morally right, while also being a bit selfish. While I view Taron more like a Sith where he is being evil on purpose for the sake of power.

 

[Krytax123]

Well, it doesn't complicate anything. Just tell the story in another way. There's nothing "light" about the "light path" anymore. That one stupid scene destroyed the whole game. Except the author wants to show that we, the players, are the baddies and MC is the villain in this game. In that case it's a good decision. Anyway, I'm rooting for Taron. He was right from the beginning. Shame he couldn't kill the Nephilim when that little bastard was a kid.

Damn your'e such a dramaqueen, did you really expect the mc to be a goody-two shoes in this avn? And yeah, very reasonable to expect the dev to render every scene with eliza twice for vampire or non-vampire and to expect massive branching in this one.

And so far Taron did more evil stuff compared to the mc even on the dark route.

And considering the only other Nephilim in the lore turned into a monster its logical that mc struggles with his humanity and morals. Maybe play something else if you're looking for a fairytale instead of blaming the dev.

 

[DrSoong]

Well, it doesn't complicate anything. Just tell the story in another way. There's nothing "light" about the "light path" anymore. That one stupid scene destroyed the whole game. Except the author wants to show that we, the players, are the baddies and MC is the villain in this game. In that case it's a good decision. Anyway, I'm rooting for Taron. He was right from the beginning. Shame he couldn't kill the Nephilim when that little bastard was a kid.

I don't think BuuPlays saw this scene as light or dark when creating it, i assume it was meant as explanation what Eliza had become after turned into a vampire. You can clearly see her lust for blood as she is thirsty and her getting despaired after she realized having killed an innocent person (it maybe had been better for her to save the maid from a murderer and get his blood, so the one dying had been a bad person). IMO the intention was to show that Eliza still is a good person and has to fight her new being to keep human at least partially.

At least, the (mostly) overall reaction here shows that, even it's only a game, most players (here) care for Eliza (and maybe also the MC) and refuse to see her as a killer. As the MCs first companion and LI and minding her history and fate, she seems to be the symbol of the good way for some (or the most), making her (even when she doesn't it on purpose but accidentally) killing someone (not evil) will be refused by their minds.

As i said, the solution is to decide using the path the player had been chosen for the MC or (like BuuPlays already mentioned) let the player decide in the scene (maybe some kind of threesome decision, full stop and partially stop on the light path, partially stop or don't interfere on the dark path). I think both solutions will work to please the players.