VN Ren'Py Nephilim [v0.6.0] [BuuPlays]

[Dessolos]

I disagree with you about character development...most characters have undergone significant character development. The best example is probably Diana who only really has one extended scene and a couple other short bit but it's impressive how much she has developed in such a short amount of time. And similarly for Maia who has so far had much less screen time than Diana but you can just see her character arc will be epic. But seriously everyone has undergone a huge amount of character growth except maybe Flynn who is mostly there to be a comedic punching bag.

As for the sex, it is a very good thing. It is hugely surprising and refreshing that this game can do so much right with the story and characters and still manages to have lots of sex in. And the number of girls is hugely impressive too. I honestly can't say enough good things about it.

Well like I said unless something changed in Ch5 I only seen the intro to Diana. When im talking about Lack of character deveolopment I was more talking about Alice , Luna those 2 are the worst in terms of character deveolopment especially Alice. But I kind of have the same thoughts pretty much any of the LI that isn't named Eliza before Island. The only one that I thought was done okay was Ameillia.

Honestly the amount of sex is a bad thing for me. I tried playing the harem path 2 updates in a row in ch 4 it was almost nothing but sex I was so tired of it makes the pacing feel bad.

 

[Dark479]

Well like I said unless something changed in Ch5 I only seen the intro to Diana. When im talking about Lack of character deveolopment I was more talking about Alice , Luna those 2 are the worst in terms of character deveolopment especially Alice. But I kind of have the same thoughts pretty much any of the LI that isn't named Eliza before Island. The only one that I thought was done okay was Ameillia.

Honestly the amount of sex is a bad thing for me. I tried playing the harem path 2 updates in a row in ch 4 it was almost nothing but sex I was so tired of it makes the pacing feel bad.

Alice has grown significantly...leaving her hometown, struggling through school, becoming an adept potion maker, and now learning how to fight with the others. I mean she has come a long way. And Luna too, she started off as a girl who couldn't see or do anything beyond trying to appease her mother's captor. She is rapidly growing into a force to be reckoned with and she has the bloodline to become as great a fighter as Diana.

 

[Dessolos]

Alice has grown significantly...leaving her hometown, struggling through school, becoming an adept potion maker, and now learning how to fight with the others. I mean she has come a long way. And Luna too, she started off as a girl who couldn't see or do anything beyond trying to appease her mother's captor. She is rapidly growing into a force to be reckoned with and she has the bloodline to become as great a fighter as Diana.

Yeah for me all I know about Alice and her character is she is trying to be an alchemist to help the MC and join him and be useful on adventures and she is a childhood friend in love with him. Her conversations I feel I never learn anything about her. Why I consider her character deveolopment bad.

Luna kind of similar in I only know she is the daughter of a powerful wizard and was trying to free her from Taron's Hex well till the MC broke it that is. At least there is more to her character and it is progressing much better than Alice . But also feels like it runs into the same problem for me where I don't feel like I know much about her at all beyond that but at least it has better progression and pacing than Alice we just need more time with Luna.

 

[hsuaisbsjsh]

chapter 6 story is copy paste of The Lust city

im just replying to point this out to someone

 

[xapican]

What game was it stolen from?

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[Pixillin']

One of the problems with too many Lis is it makes any real character development impossible. Eliza has been through quite a bit because she got most of the early chapters to herself but at this point it's just not possible unless Buu is going to pause the main plot for 5 years or so while we learn about all of the women he's introduced. And some of them, even when they've gotten a decent amount of screen time don't seem to have grown or developed much. Alice is still obsessed with joining MC for adventures, which has been her obsession since she was 10, the pirate twins are the pirate twins - fierce, renowned pirates who mostly act like horny Disney princesses and have to be rescued a lot.

 

[hsuaisbsjsh]

What the hell are you talking about word for word. The environment images are shared but the games don't share story or characters or anything and I have seen other developers sharing full on characters before. The environment asset sharing isn't as unusual as you think. It's also possible both devs bought the assets from the same source too.

ok do some actual fucking research because AGAIN the ENVIROMENT isn't the only thing they stole there's even a fucking screenshot that someone posted proving its word for word. and no the other dev doesn't know this guy stole his shit or probably doesn't care and no they didn't fucking share so your fucking assuming and riding this guys dick again just because you like his game that literally probably stole every environment from other games that people don't know about.

 

[MorteRivenditore]

ya ty lol. Aparently somehow i broke rules by asking but tbh its related to the topic of the game so who knows. LOL.

ok do some actual fucking research because AGAIN the ENVIROMENT isn't the only thing they stole there's even a fucking screenshot that someone posted proving its word for word. and no the other dev doesn't know this guy stole his shit or probably doesn't care and no they didn't fucking share so your fucking assuming and riding this guys dick again just because you like his game that literally probably stole every environment from other games that people don't know about.

Have you played the othr game yourself to confirm this? As well was it a singular screenshot as proof. If so it could share a few word for word sentences but still be a completely different story. Ill know more myself once i actually jump into the other game myself, but the other one is sandbox (or has that tag) SOO might not make it that far.

 

[Dark479]

Since posts about this have been removed I'll leave it be.

All I can say is that Nephilim is a great game...genuinely a 9 out of 10 in my book. A few annoying bits like the prolonged cave scene with Kira and Selene's arc are the only things that keep me from calling this a genuine 10 out of 10.

 

[hsuaisbsjsh]

ya ty lol. Aparently somehow i broke rules by asking but tbh its related to the topic of the game so who knows. LOL.



Have you played the othr game yourself to confirm this? As well was it a singular screenshot as proof. If so it could share a few word for word sentences but still be a completely different story. Ill know more myself once i actually jump into the other game myself, but the other one is sandbox (or has that tag) SOO might not make it that far.

i haven't played it but i do have a link someone posted to some images
https://f95zone.to/threads/nephilim-v0-5-2-buuplays.143045/post-16057850

 

[MorteRivenditore]

i haven't played it but i do have a link someone posted to some images
https://f95zone.to/threads/nephilim-v0-5-2-buuplays.143045/post-16057850

So i actually did play it to check myself, and some of those are cherry picked. Lets be honest the sex scene wee can discount those cause thats just typical shit females say in avns LOL.

As for the rest, yes there are some similarities but there are enough differences. For once yes in both the MC gets pushed into a trap, but after the trap there are differences. (actually quite a few during that part). Also the "chief" is referenced differently in both. While im not discrediting the similarities, (and theres a chance that it was either taken from it OR inspiration from it) but there are quite a few differences too. I didnt scan everything worth for word, but the whole eb and flow seems a bit different in both. But who knows.

Maybe the dev just needed some bits and pieces to use to fill in the gaps and those gaps are what is being used to say its stolen? or maybe it is hard to say without going word for word script by script, and i honestly dont have the patience for that myself. But yea

One main difference i spotted in my quick shuffle through the text, is that when you go to the "pleasure temple" in both it is different. You get to choose to either be submissive or dominante, or both. In Nephilim i think its more you can choose to either be alone, with someone, or not at all.

Edit: After really looking at that screenshot and thinking about it its heavily cherrypicked.
The dragged and darted scenes: They are tribal they are going to use stuff like darts and stuff to nock people out thats a given.
Wake up scenes: Mc in Lust City talks about being in chains MC in Nephilim has chain and ball attached not chains.
Scene showing chief telling them to leave: Okay how much differently could they say to leave LOL.
Lost city reference: Okay?? that one is copy but lets be honest, if in both cases its a lost city, any outsider would call it "the lost city of x yz.

 

[hsuaisbsjsh]

So i actually did play it to check myself, and some of those are cherry picked. Lets be honest the sex scene wee can discount those cause thats just typical shit females say in avns LOL.

As for the rest, yes there are some similarities but there are enough differences. For once yes in both the MC gets pushed into a trap, but after the trap there are differences. (actually quite a few during that part). Also the "chief" is referenced differently in both. While im not discrediting the similarities, (and theres a chance that it was either taken from it OR inspiration from it) but there are quite a few differences too. I didnt scan everything worth for word, but the whole eb and flow seems a bit different in both. But who knows.

Maybe the dev just needed some bits and pieces to use to fill in the gaps and those gaps are what is being used to say its stolen? or maybe it is hard to say without going word for word script by script, and i honestly dont have the patience for that myself. But yea

One main difference i spotted in my quick shuffle through the text, is that when you go to the "pleasure temple" in both it is different. You get to choose to either be submissive or dominante, or both. In Nephilim i think its more you can choose to either be alone, with someone, or not at all.

Edit: After really looking at that screenshot and thinking about it its heavily cherrypicked.
The dragged and darted scenes: They are tribal they are going to use stuff like darts and stuff to nock people out thats a given.
Wake up scenes: Mc in Lust City talks about being in chains MC in Nephilim has chain and ball attached not chains.
Scene showing chief telling them to leave: Okay how much differently could they say to leave LOL.
Lost city reference: Okay?? that one is copy but lets be honest, if in both cases its a lost city, any outsider would call it "the lost city of x yz.

ok for one a fucking ball and chain is still a fucking chain like where the fuck do you get a ball and CHAIN isn't a chain? and two literally there is no temple scene in the images that person sent at all and literally the shit the mc says in Nephilim mean exactly the same from what the mc in lust city says. heck in the mc waking up scene and being dragged scene they both literally just say the same words but in different ways like this is basic speaking where you can say words in different ways. start a private conversation if you want to continue this.

 

[hsuaisbsjsh]

Okay you seem mad over nothing? I stated i played the game, I didnt just use the ss's provided. You are the one assuming i was only talking about the screenshots. Please tell me in the part referencing the temple did i say it was about the screenshots or even referenced the screenshots when talking about the temple. Also what more way could a dev describe the MC being in and out of consciousness while being dragged? Also you didnt read the full thing clearly, because i even stated it is still a possibility that it could have been stolen from the other game. Clearly you are just here to argue and not bother being logical so you have fun with that. I also stated there is no way to accuratly say "oh this game is steeling the entire story of xyz" without sitting down, pulling up the script for both games and comparing it side by side frame by frame, and i for one dont have the time or effort im willing to invest in that. Till someone does that and can say 100% that that is whats going on everyone is just speculating.

On the ball and chain thing, i was stating differences in both scenes. To be honest in the logic you are using buuplays could have used rope and you would just say "oh hes still tied up and restrained". When i make a post discussing things, im not defending nor attacking a dev. Im looking at all angles possible and looking at ALL the facts.

Off the top of my head i can think of 5reasons why the words in some parts are similar. Ill list those bellow.
1. The dev did in fact copy it without even asking.
2. Dev used game as inspiration for this chapter.
3. Dev seen the same assets and got them thinking of a similar concept.
4. Dev talked to the other dev and other dev said its fine.
5. Dev randomly thought of a similar concept for this season.

And thats literally off the top of my head. NOW again i will clarify and i will make it abundantly clear.

I am not saying the dev did or did not steal it, i am discussing ALL possibilities for it. As well as the similarities and differences of the entire story or at least the parts i seen when i checked out the other game.

for on no my logic isn't that the dev could've used rope and id say he would still be tied up and restrained that's basic fucking logic because guess what? he would still be tied up and restrained and i was pointing out how you said it wasn't a fucking chain which is a lie and no you weren't stating difference's you were saying a chain isn't a fucking chain which isn't true. and you even said the mc was pushed into a trap when he wasn't and here ill provide your own words.

 

[MorteRivenditore]

for on no my logic isn't that the dev could've used rope and id say he would still be tied up and restrained that's basic fucking logic because guess what? he would still be tied up and restrained and i was pointing out how you said it wasn't a fucking chain which is a lie and no you weren't stating difference's you were saying a chain isn't a fucking chain which isn't true. and you even said the mc was pushed into a trap when he wasn't and here ill provide your own words.

By its not a chain i more meant hes not chained u, basing it off the screenshot it looked like the mc was chained to something that is what i was referencing.

 

[Pixillin']

I haven't written my review of this one yet, but the writing is definitely getting a super low grade (especially with the plagiarism). The gameplay will get a low grade too - since it's almost a kinetic novel.

 

[edgedy]

Does anyone feel like the Light/Dark thing was abandoned? I feel like it's not even relevant to the story any more.

 

[hsuaisbsjsh]

Does anyone feel like the Light/Dark thing was abandoned? I feel like it's not even relevant to the story any more.

was it ever relevant?

 

[Dark479]

Does anyone feel like the Light/Dark thing was abandoned? I feel like it's not even relevant to the story any more.

It hasn't come up in a while but it will probably come up again at some point...near the end of the game if nothing else.

 

[xapican]

was it ever relevant?

Hey, you are from my point of view overly critical with this game, what happend ?
It sometimes reads as when you are angry at the Dev. (my impresion)

 

[hsuaisbsjsh]

Hey, you are from my point of view overly critical with this game, what happend ?
It sometimes reads as when you are angry at the Dev. (my impresion)

it's not overly critical when he steals shit