VN Ren'Py Nephilim [v0.6.1] [BuuPlays]

[storm1105]

But anyway i never got the feeling that were talking about who's more skilled or a better fighter. Thats CLEARY Diana which is very obvious during the whole fight. MC is HARD CARRIED by his nephilim powers the whole time, plenty of people are more skilled fighters.

I was always talking about who was stronger.

Diana is clearly stronger and the mc was mostly just relying on his regen powers to be able to stay in the fight at all.

I just don't consider regen the same as being more powerful. I'm basically thinking in terms of dps.

 

[Deleted member 6503042]

It's not going anywhere and I am against animal abuse, so I think it's best to leave the dead horse, with some dignity.

I'm sorry but being knocked/incapacitated counts as losing a fight. It doesn't matter if he can get back up later and go again. That's essentially just a rematch. If you got knocked out in a fight wouldn't you count that as a loss? Even if you were only knocked out for say 15 seconds or so.

Just wanted clear this part so I quoted. If you get up, the round is not finished. If you can't get up, there are no more rounds. So your analogy nor the rule you put make any sense in that regard.

Dude this is a ton of cope. Mc got knocked out, mc lost. I'm not even the only person who saying he lost. I don't really care if you count the other fights as rounds.

First of all it's not common consensus here. Also, here's a reading topic for you. Argumentum ad populum, it's an interesting one.

In the end, if you really really wanna go who won path. Then, Diana's goal was killing the twins. MC's goal was saving them. Since the twins are alive, then MC is the only winner of that fight because he is the one who reached their goal. So simple as you can see.

You say he clearly lost but you forgot to quote last part, here you go, cope with this.

 

[storm1105]

If you get up, the round is not finished

If you get up right away the rounds not finished. Mc didn't

First of all it's not common consensus here. Also, here's a reading topic for you. Argumentum ad populum, it's an interesting one.

I don't care what the common consensus is. Me and several other people were saying he lost. You replied to me asking why I think he lost then started this weird argument where you seemed to have forgotten what you actually asked me and thought that I was telling you want to think.

I actually think it's kind of funny how you went on a rant about me making up my own rules supposedly when you literally asked me what my opinion was.

You say he clearly lost but you forgot to quote last part, here you go, cope with this.

I didn't forget. I ignored it because it's not really relevant. Like I said last reply and this one. You misunderstood what the conversation was about somehow. I'm kind of confused how the mix up started but I was never telling you what your opinion should be or that you should agree with mine. I was telling you why I have my opinion.


The only thing I'm actually adamant on is the mc didn't Win because Diana's last attack knocked him out. I don't really care if you consider it rounds like I do or consider the whole thing a draw.

The reason why I am saying it's cope and this reply of yours is cope because it's just such an incredibly silly argument. And it's like you're essentially blabbering nonsense just to try to tell me I'm wrong.


I'm not really sure what the lesson here is. Maybe read carefully? I've never seen someone forget what the actual conversation was about like you have.

 

[Krytax123]

I dont even know how we derailed to this point

Its not like it really matters or like the powerlevels/scaling would be very consistent

 

[Deleted member 6503042]

I didn't forget. I ignored it because it's not really relevant. Like I said last reply and this one. You misunderstood what the conversation was about somehow. I'm kind of confused how the mix up started but I was never telling you what your opinion should be or that you should agree with mine. I was telling you why I have my opinion.

Just to be clear I was never arguing that any of you had to agree with me. The conversation started because you guys quoted me asking me what I thought. I'm not really sure how the earlier conversation started.

Maybe you should not say this,

I'm going to continue to say he just got his ass beat and all you guys are just coping.

if you were just stating your opinion. Dontcha think?

I dont even know how we derailed to this point

Its not like it really matters or like the powerlevels/scaling would be very consistent

 

[jadepaladin]

Well, that was a read. If you think you're gonna convince Storm of anything, you'll have the same amount of luck convincing Pix to not sacrifice the pirate twins at the first opportunity.

Nephilim is terrible at power scaling but what fantasy/anime/superpower story isn't? If you can think of one, look up the budget, and hand that money to Buu. Let's see what happens.

 

[storm1105]

if you were just stating your opinion. Dontcha think?

Dude this is literally me saying that I'm going to continue with my opinion. How do you read this as me saying you should all think the same thing I do?

The comment is just me saying I don't really care what your opinion is.

 

[Deleted member 6503042]

Pix to not sacrifice the pirate twins at the first opportunity.

Dude this is literally me saying that I'm going to continue with my opinion. How do you read this as me saying you should all think the same thing I do?

The comment is just me saying I don't really care what your opinion is.

I am guessing it has some sort of relation with this part,

Cope

In original definition, 'Cope' means someone who is creating an psychological defence of a more lighter belief to deal with a harsh truth. However, it could easily be used and misinterpretated by online trolls, usualy from Discord or 4Chan, in an attempt to convey mockery, trolling, defaminate and insulting, usualy those people have pathetic lives so they spend it tossing this word and insult/mock others to feed their superiority complex in online chats and/or forums.

 

[storm1105]

I am guessing it has some sort of relation with this part,

We weren't arguing over whether or not he lost then. I was saying it was cope that you guys were saying he only lost because he was holding back a ton and that he would have easily won otherwise. Since mc says himself that's not true. And even then I wasn't saying you guys must agree with me. I'm was saying I think your opinion sucks and that you were lying to yourself and that I am going to continue thinking the same thing I did before regardless.


The other claim in the conversation was that mc would have easily won, but was goofing around and holding back so he lost. I was disagreeing with why he lost, not the idea that he lost or won. Like I said I really don't care if you consider it a lost or a draw.

 

[Deleted member 6503042]

We weren't arguing over whether or not he lost then. I was saying it was cope that you guys were saying he only lost because he was holding back a ton and that he would have easily won otherwise. Since mc says himself that's not true. And even then I wasn't saying you guys must agree with me. I'm was saying I think your opinion sucks and that you were lying to yourself and that I am going to continue thinking the same thing I did before regardless.


The other claim in the conversation was that mc would have easily won, but was goofing around and holding back so he lost. I was disagreeing with why he lost, not the idea that he lost or won. Like I said I really don't care if you consider it a lost or a draw.

We are cool, right? I'd never claim Diana would lose easily because I can't wait to see her more and learn about her powers. She'd be very good ally against Taron and the cult thing. Also, I really did not want to get on the discuss train, I thought he won and I was sure he did not lose, which still I am saying. I just checked a few posts before that and looks like cope thing is a trigger for me. Anyways, I hope you weren't offended in anyway because half the fun of these forums is this type of discussions. See ya around.

 

[MiltonPowers]

Well, that was a read. If you think you're gonna convince Storm of anything, you'll have the same amount of luck convincing Pix to not sacrifice the pirate twins at the first opportunity.

Nephilim is terrible at power scaling but what fantasy/anime/superpower story isn't? If you can think of one, look up the budget, and hand that money to Buu. Let's see what happens.

What if Pixillin' gets the chance to sacrifice Kira, Pearl, Luna, Diana, Alice (and the others), and they are the crucial pieces he needs to defeat the BBEG in the final battle. Without their magic, battle strategy, potions, etc to assist, Pix and Eliza lose and die.

 

[xapican]

Argumentum ad populum

Well, yeah the Pope is from Argentina, everybody knows that I think .....

 

[Dessolos]

What if Pixillin' gets the chance to sacrifice Kira, Pearl, Luna, Diana, Alice (and the others), and they are the crucial pieces he needs to defeat the BBEG in the final battle. Without their magic, battle strategy, potions, etc to assist, Pix and Eliza lose and die.

is it bad bad I want this to just so Eliza dies on Pix's save for him killing off people without the name Eliza.

PS: someone should make a mod that renames every girl to Eliza just to troll pix

 

[xapican]

Dessolos ; you are somtimes sooo pure evil !

 

[MiltonPowers]

is it bad bad I want this to just so Eliza dies on Pix's save for him killing off people without the name Eliza.

PS: someone should make a mod that renames every girl to Eliza just to troll pix

 

[Krytax123]

Just to be clear I was never arguing that any of you had to agree with me. The conversation started because you guys quoted me asking me what I thought. I'm not really sure how the earlier conversation started.

It actually started by me saying that all fights sucked for a long time unfortunaly (and how some earlier fights were better/good) and listing the reasons why they sucked. And me listing overconfidence as a reason why the diana fight sucked and you objected.

I would change that point now to: the fight sucked because it was against a LI and never meant to be an all out because he wasnt meant to really hurt her anyway, additionally i would add it sucked because he was struggling way too much in this fight (which isnt always bad tho)

So i guess our discussion led to ... something

 

[Deleted member 6503042]

something

understatement of the year, huh?

 

[Krytax123]

By the way whats way stranger is how FUCKING OUT OF NOWHERE Diana's strenght is no matter if shes stronger or not than our MC at the moment

I mean like ... what?! Why is someone with her strenght on a fucking ship in bumfuck nowhere pirate fuckhole in the first place in times like these? Yeah i know about her backstory but

1) pirate bumfuck lord isnt even there and

2) the fucking kings rule is UBER SHAKY at the moment

Why is the woman who could easily solo the whole kings castle doing shit like that far away in a time like this?!

Orrrr has the king lots of compareable fighters? If thats the case ... why would the MC be the bodyguard of the princess in the first place and nobody but dalen & clowns able to find the princess when she got captured?

It didnt seemed like the king is surrounded by capable, smart or even somewhat useful people.

Admiral surely is a somewhat important position but ... really?

 

[Dessolos]

By the way whats way stranger is how FUCKING OUT OF NOWHERE Diana's strenght is no matter if shes stronger or not than our MC at the moment

I mean like ... what?! Why is someone with her strenght on a fucking ship in bumfuck nowhere pirate fuckhole in the first place in times like these? Yeah i know about her backstory but

1) pirate bumfuck lord isnt even there and

2) the fucking kings rule is UBER SHAKY at the moment

Why is the woman who could easily solo the whole kings castle doing shit like that far away in a time like this?!

Orrrr has the king lots of compareable fighters? If thats the case ... why would the MC be the bodyguard of the princess in the first place and nobody but dalen & clowns able to find the princess when she got captured?

It didnt seemed like the king is surrounded by capable, smart or even somewhat useful people.

Admiral surely is a somewhat important position but ... really?

I think the more important question is why is Looter Bay all of sudden so important when the Kingdom can be invaded any minute by his enemies and don't forget the backstabbing nobles

 

[Krytax123]

I think the more important question is why is Looter Bay all of sudden so important when the Kingdom can be invaded any minute by his enemies and don't forget the backstabbing nobles

I mean ... wasnt that kinda my question?

Looters bay seems to be like three buildings and was led by a retard named brenda, i feel like even some drunk in the captial would be worthy of more attention