VN Unity Netorase Phone [v0.12.3] [Le Stag]

[nickohoma]

Well, I’m not saying specifically that this update upset me, it’s more about the direction of the game as a whole, I just don’t think that Dev will suddenly change this direction, which can only mean that we will see the same stories next, just in a different wrapper, and other dialogues.
For me this is not something to look forward to (

I totally read your message wrong, or replied to the wrong person. Your message wasn't specifically about this update at all. My bad.

 

[Silwith]

I was game developer for many years, visited any game conference possible many times, spoke directly to EA, Blizzard, Ubisoft, Unreal CEOs and Management directly, so use your childish insults to somebody else

No you weren't and no you didn't, you are delusional

The ONLY thing you got right is that smartphone games are the biggest share of the gaming market... while we could argue about how dumb that is, it doesn't change jack shit about the PC gaming market GROWING steadily since the iphone came out (And hell, how it must have been growing if it "fell" to 270million (which it didn't), considering it has been at over 40 BILLION in 2023 for PC games alone...) So as said, get your head out of your ass and stop pretending to know stuff when you clearly don't, as PC gaming is the strongest growing gaming segment... you clown xD

PS: I am not gonna answer you anymore, you are a moron first grade, buy a brain man, you really need it... xD

 

[hlfwaycrks]

2) More action? In the sense that the main character does not expect Laura to meet someone, and MC accidentally finds out about it, it doesn't matter how exactly, through Ashley, Tara or the character fucking Laura, for me this is within the limits of Netorase, considering how many times we have already been shown that Laura and MC love each other.

Let me remind you, everything I listed above is MY PERSONAL OPINION, maybe there are other interesting ideas, but the direction the game is moving in now is a decline.

I will hope that the author will come up with something more interesting than what is presented in the latest updates!

Included the relevant portion I wanted to respond to here. I do respect it's your personal opinion 100%, but what you are advocating for in point 2 is not "within the limits of netorase" if MC "accidentally" finds out about it. Netorase is built on a foundation of trust and open communication and consent. Without that, you're advocating for straight-up NTR.

 

[TheBigWater]

Well guess we have to wait a week because no hero is coming :c Maybe its better.. It would be easier to win NNN

 

[AcornHunter]

No you weren't and no you didn't, you are delusional

ok, kiddo, enjoy your smoke, it's impossible to talk to somebody who doesn't know shit, on heavy drugs and laugh all the time
I was talking about the time before iPhone when hundreds gaming studios developed thousands solid games, and now because of iPhone we mostly see three variations of games - 1. something very cheap made by small group or single developer, 2. online mega projects free-to-play with microtransactions, 3. Mega projects by BIG players concentrated on graphic/complexity.
Obviously, PC gaming exist and even growing money-wise (mostly micro-transactions in online MMO), but proportionally to whole gaming market - PC gaming steady declining.

 

[Nequiem]

Included the relevant portion I wanted to respond to here. I do respect it's your personal opinion 100%, but what you are advocating for in point 2 is not "within the limits of netorase" if MC "accidentally" finds out about it. Netorase is built on a foundation of trust and open communication and consent. Without that, you're advocating for straight-up NTR.

Consent doesn't necessarily mean, "You get asked every time she wants to have sex with someone.", though it *can* mean that. I think there is (potentially, if Le Stag was interested in the extra work it'd entail) room for a path/variable where you basically "pre-emptively" give consent for Laura to have sex with anyone she wants without getting explicit permission from you first. It'd still clearly be Netorase since MC would be giving consent and would actively want her to do it.

 

[Silwith]

Consent doesn't necessarily mean, "You get asked every time she wants to have sex with someone.", though it *can* mean that. I think there is (potentially, if Le Stag was interested in the extra work it'd entail) room for a path/variable where you basically "pre-emptively" give consent for Laura to have sex with anyone she wants without getting explicit permission from you first. It'd still clearly be Netorase since MC would be giving consent and would actively want her to do it.

Pretty sure the sub-path in essence has that, BUT it still entails her always telling afterwards and personally I do think that it a cornerstone of a proper nts story, so it certainly should stay! There should be no "accidentally discovering" anything!
At most it could be seeing them while being outside before she tells the MC, which would be a fun dialogue I guess, but only work for the subs, so... :x

 

[Nequiem]

Pretty sure the sub-path in essence has that, BUT it still entails her always telling afterwards and personally I do think that it a cornerstone of a proper nts story, so it certainly should stay! There should be no "accidentally discovering" anything!
At most it could be seeing them while being outside before she tells the MC, which would be a fun dialogue I guess, but only work for the subs, so... :x

Why do you decide what a "proper" NTS story is, though? It wouldn't be forced, so what justification is there for it to not exist outside of Le Stag just not wanting to implement it? Some people enjoy the kind of "wife that freely sleeps with whoever they want" dynamic but don't actually like NTR because they don't enjoy *actual* cheating. What's wrong with offering something to those people when you can directly opt out of it?

 

[Silwith]

Why do you decide what a "proper" NTS story is, though? It wouldn't be forced, so what justification is there for it to not exist outside of Le Stag just not wanting to implement it? Some people enjoy the kind of "wife that freely sleeps with whoever they want" dynamic but don't actually like NTR because they don't enjoy *actual* cheating. What's wrong with offering something to those people when you can directly opt out of it?

I "decide" nothing, I clearly stated that this is my personal opinion, if you can't live with differing opinions thats on you, not me

 

[nickohoma]

Yeah the couples' deal definitely would allow Laura to spontaneously find and fuck someone. But MC, for his part, likes to hear about it, so that's part of the deal too. Laura hiding anything wouldn't just be out-of-place, it'd be unnecessary. MC loves Laura fucking other dudes, he just wants to hear about it when it happens.

The only thing I can think of that would prevent the "MC comes home from work and finds Laura fucking someone" scenario is that the couple's own home/bed hasn't been in play yet. That might be a little jarring for some folks.

Full disclosure, if it was up to me then none of that would happen. I'm just saying it'd fit into what MC and Laura already agreed to.

 

[Nequiem]

I "decide" nothing, I clearly stated that this is my personal opinion, if you can't live with differing opinions thats on you, not me

Friend, you are reading more hostility into my words than are actually there. I apologize for any unintended hostility that was read into, I was just speaking my mind the same as you.

 

[Nequiem]

But MC, for his part, likes to hear about it, so that's part of the deal too. Laura hiding anything wouldn't just be out-of-place, it'd be unnecessary. MC loves Laura fucking other dudes, he just wants to hear about it when it happens.

I'm not sure I understand here. The MC is, ultimately, a self-insert for the player. Yes, he necessarily has a kink for seeing other men have sex with Laura, but that's because the game is an NTS game, and it's assumed the player *also* has that kink. That's the whole reason there are dom/sub paths instead of just a singular path that represents what "real MC" likes. There's no reason player A's MC couldn't *also* enjoy Laura freely sleeping around while player B's doesn't, the same way player A's MC may be submissive, while player B's MC is dominant.

 

[nickohoma]

I'm not sure I understand here. The MC is, ultimately, a self-insert for the player. Yes, he necessarily has a kink for seeing other men have sex with Laura, but that's because the game is an NTS game, and it's assumed the player *also* has that kink. That's the whole reason there are dom/sub paths instead of just a singular path that represents what "real MC" likes. There's no reason player A's MC couldn't *also* enjoy Laura freely sleeping around while player B's doesn't, the same way player A's MC may be submissive, while player B's MC is dominant.

No worries man. I'm just saying that MC has already pre-emptively given Laura consent to fuck whomever without checking in with him first. The only "strings attached" in the game as written is that Laura tells MC about it afterward and shares pics. That's all in-world stuff, not getting into players' preferences, just into what's been established in game.

If the writer wanted to take the game in the direction of "Laura will fuck whomever and NOT tell MC about it afterward", I would hope he'd either make it optional or make it an in-game conversation to establish that it could happen moving forward. In its current state, the game is written such that the player doesn't expect it to happen, so it might be an unpleasant read for some players if it did (though some would find it hot as fuck).

I'm the asshole who read the "we need some rules" conversation from early game and took it as a contract written in blood, by the way. I know a lot of players are more permissive than me.

 

[kikomascado]

In my opinion, if the girl freely sleeps around without telling the boyfriend beforehand or afterwards, it's just a simple open-relationship on her part, as the girl isn't doing that for her boyfriend enjoyment, and he isn't getting anything out of it, like Don't ask, don't tell agreement.

 

[Nequiem]

If the writer wanted to take the game in the direction of "Laura will fuck whomever and NOT tell MC about it afterward", I would hope he'd either make it optional or make it an in-game conversation to establish that it could happen moving forward. In its current state, the game is written such that the player doesn't expect it to happen, so it might be an unpleasant read for some players if it did.

Oh, I want to make it *absolutely* clear. While I *do* want to see what I'm describing implemented, I would actively fight it if were implemented in a mandatory manner, lol. I've seen so many things ruined by people coming in and trying to *fundamentally* change why people originally liked it that I have *no* intention of being on the other side of it. I enjoy the game just fine as it is now and would rather see it stay exactly as it is than ruin it for someone that also already enjoys it.

 

[hlfwaycrks]

In my opinion, if the girl freely sleeps around without telling the boyfriend beforehand or afterwards, it's just a simple open-relationship on her part, as the girl isn't doing that for her boyfriend enjoyment, and he isn't getting anything out of it, like Don't ask, don't tell agreement.

100% this. Anyone saying that Laura sleeping with other guys and hiding it from MC should be included in this game is advocating for literal NTR/cheating when the dynamic of the relationship is such that it's for BOTH their benefit. If they had some open relationship arrangement, I would understand, but when the boundaries are clearly about having both parties involved and one hides it from the other, that's cheating, which falls under NTR. Only the subby-ist-of-sub content (and even then, it would be borderline AF) would include anything like this, and if you disagree, sorry, you're wrong.

 

[Silwith]

In my opinion, if the girl freely sleeps around without telling the boyfriend beforehand or afterwards, it's just a simple open-relationship on her part, as the girl isn't doing that for her boyfriend enjoyment, and he isn't getting anything out of it, like Don't ask, don't tell agreement.

Yeah, maybe that is why I can't see it, because while Laura clearly very much enjoys how this developed, she started doing it for the benefit of the MC, she was very much happy being in a monogamous relationship as I read it and, just me personally, I would not like her straying too far from that. It is great that she enjoys herself, otherwise it would be kinda meh, but even in the very-sub path (which I am a player of) I am still reading it as her doing it and behaving like she doesn, mainly because she knows the MC enjoys it and well... without him knowing that kinda doesn't fit anymore for me

 

[kikomascado]

100% this. Anyone saying that Laura sleeping with other guys and hiding it from MC should be included in this game is advocating for literal NTR/cheating when the dynamic of the relationship is such that it's for BOTH their benefit. If they had some open relationship arrangement, I would understand, but when the boundaries are clearly about having both parties involved and one hides it from the other, that's cheating, which falls under NTR. Only the subby-ist-of-sub content (and even then, it would be borderline AF) would include anything like this, and if you disagree, sorry, you're wrong.

While it could include an agreement that she could do it without telling anything to the MC, at this point I don't think it fits the narrative of the game. Hahaha

 

[Nequiem]

No offense, but you guys are having a problem where you're saying, "It doesn't make sense because MC doesn't get anything out of that.". But you're speaking for your *personal* kinks. The MC is a self-insert. Personally, I can 100% say I would get something out of Laura freely sleeping around. I think it's hot, sue me.

It's not about her "hiding it", it's about it being so normal and casual to her that she doesn't feel the need to explicitly tell you about every encounter. Would she tell you if you explicitly asked her? Sure, but otherwise it'd be like her telling you what she ate for lunch. Maybe it was noteworthy enough for her, she does, but maybe not if you don't ask.

 

[nickohoma]

No offense, but you guys are having a problem where you're saying, "It doesn't make sense because MC doesn't get anything out of that.". But you're speaking for your *personal* kinks. The MC is a self-insert. Personally, I can 100% say I would get something out of Laura freely sleeping around. I think it's hot, sue me.

It's not about her "hiding it", it's about it being so normal and casual to her that she doesn't feel the need to explicitly tell you about every encounter. Would she tell you if you explicitly asked her? Sure, but otherwise it'd be like her telling you what she ate for lunch. Maybe it was noteworthy enough for her, she does, but maybe not if you don't ask.

It wouldn't be my bag but I'm sure some folks would find it hot. That statement applies to a lot of stuff already in game though honestly. I just ask for an "out" if the game's boundaries shift, even if that "out" is the little x button in the corner.