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nvlong345

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comment about the debate above. both side is talking about the consent but with differences. one side is talking as a "player" because as long as we "know (as a player of the game)" Laura still loves the MC, even though she don't report to MC -> it's still NTS, as he said. but the other side argue that if Laura don't report to MC, because they think as an "real life/immersed" scenerio -> it's is NTR. so i think they look at the problem from two different point of view, it's like orange and apple comparison. it's like in hentai manga e.g from Terasu MC, if the last page show that the heroine still loves MC -> it's NTS, without that page -> NTR :))) that's my thought on this debate (sorry english not my native).
 
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comment about the debate above. both side is talking about the consent but with differences. one side is talking as a "player" because as long as we "know (as a player of the game)" Laura still loves the MC, even though she don't report to MC -> it's still NTS, as he said. but the other side argue that if Laura don't report to MC, because they think as an "real life/immersed" scenerio -> it's is NTR. so i think they look at the problem from two different point of view, it's like orange and apple comparison. it's like in hentai manga e.g from Terasu MC, if the last page show that the heroine still loves MC -> it's NTS, without that page -> NTR :))) that's my thought on this debate (sorry english not my native).
I don't see it as either NTR or NTS, I just see it as Don't ask, don't tell type of open relationship.
 

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I really *really* wanted to be done with this, but now you're obligating me with an apparent misunderstanding, lol.

Alright, go ahead. Tell me what the question mark means. I'll attempt to clarify if I can. I'm serious about not responding outside of that though, I am argumentatively exhausted.
So perhaps i misunderstood you, but what you wrote in the previous response with my question mark is more or less exactly what i said in my opening response you quoted, the only part that i guess wasnt specifically stated by you was the not telling you portion. You said you want it to be so natural to her that she wouldnt even feel like telling you, but would if you asked, so i paraphrased.

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More action? In the sense that the main character does not expect Laura to meet someone, and MC accidentally finds out about it, it doesn't matter how exactly, through Ashley, Tara or the character fucking Laura, for me this is within the limits of Netorase, considering how many times we have already been shown that Laura and MC love each other.
Then you said i dont understand what you were talking about even though the original statement that started this whole argument by another user(the quoted portion above) was that Laura would fuck other guys and not tell you about it and you would find out from here friends. You were defending it, at least that was what i interpreted from your statements.

So i guess my question is what are you asking for?
 
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This might be wordy, we'll see how concise I can be, though I have little hope for that seeing as I don't want to be misunderstood, lol.

So perhaps i misunderstood you, but what you wrote in the previous response with my question mark is more or less exactly what i said in my opening response you quoted, the only part that i guess wasnt specifically stated by you was the not telling you portion. You said you want it to be so natural to her that she wouldnt even feel like telling you, but would if you asked, so i paraphrased.
The intention behind that wasn't to say, "I want Laura to have sex with guys and then *explicitly* not tell me.", it's more, "I want Laura to have carte blanche to have sex with other men and not be *obligated* to tell me.". If you'll note, I didn't actually say "wouldn't even feel like telling you", I said "wouldn't feel the *need* to tell you".

I understand if the nuance I intended there was lost, maybe I could have been more explicit with my meaning, but at the time it seemed clear to me.

Basically, I want Laura to have sex more often purely for her *own* sake, because she enjoys it, rather than it needing to be rubber-stamped by the MC all the time, if that makes sense? And I get that that is 100% not a lot of people's cup of tea, but that's why I continually stated it should be optional.


Then you said i dont understand what you were talking about even though the original statement that started this whole argument by another user(the quoted portion above) was that Laura would fuck other guys and not tell you about it and you would find out from here friends. You were defending it, at least that was what i interpreted from your statements.
While I probably took a more charitable view of that poster's comment (I personally assumed they meant with consent given in advance, since they mentioned it still being "within the limits of Netorase", and I would *not* consider it so otherwise), I also was never intending to "defend" the comment either. I was just springboarding off an existing topic of discussion as one tends to do.

I will say (and again, no offense intended), it's generally a horrible idea to assume two people in a conversation share opinions on something without explicit confirmation simply due to proximity in said conversation. Meaning, my comments stand on their own and were always meant to. That's why I repeatedly brought up consent being given to make it clear I was not advocating for NTR in the case that that original poster actually was.


So i guess my question is what are you asking for?
In a nutshell? Essentially, allowing Laura to go and have flings on her own without needing to ask MC first or giving him the play-by-play the entire time she's doing it.

Some of it would be "implied" as a sort of set dressing, because obviously you'd never hear about the ones she doesn't talk about, so there's nothing to show. Others she might mention offhandedly for just a moment in passing, some she might go into more detail, maybe she did take a few pictures even though she wasn't actively giving you the play-by-play at the time, maybe she'll tease you with them an hour later, a day later, a week later, or even a month later.

I think that probably gives a half-decent summary? I can hope, at least, lol. I get we probably still won't agree, but I hope my actual position is at least a little clearer now.
 
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