VN Unity Netorase Phone [v0.17] [Le Stag]

[baka]

it will not help. this is not the first time. the DEV clearly don't feel it and because of that its pointless. a DEV should not change something if its not in his range of understanding. I did give him feedback when it was fresh new and he didnt change as it was never in his mind that there was anything that needed to be changed, rightfully so.

from that point each update added to it and even if I waited for the changes as there was talks about that, here we are and its the same. if theres a bunch of us that have a different understanding it will not do much for the DEV, he has a good support and its enough, no point adding complexity.

my initial post was mostly a frustration that it never got that "change" that I was waiting for. but if in the future it will, fine I will take back everything and give a good review.

to summarize it all:
- theres a detachment between the couple that is progressive and subtle.
- the fetish is not the focus, instead its the GF awakening and liberation of the shackle of a relationship
- the GF insolence of the BF fetish show when she cares about her own emotions and not his.
- the GF seek audience with her friend when dealing with the fetish and not the BF, creating a discrepancy.
- the GF continues her liberation together with her friend and creates a path where the BF is just a watcher.
- while all that he also get humiliated and belittled by her friend, a situation that would not have occured if GF was considerate
- the GF is now in a relationship with a dude, where they make out, text, fuck without including the BF
- while the BF gets a few pics and some text about what she did, and what she will do, MC can't decide shit.
- the DEV gives the MC a disfavor response here and there that never gets taken seriously
- and sometimes the MC is just a super-cuck enjoying whatever, creating a schizophrenic MC.

 

[Le Stag]

Maybe saying, 'don't you have a backup at all' would fit best here.

Probably, you're right.

I think it was sent by Nathan who is catfishing you. He's a photographer so he'd have access to lots of pictures of women, and he's trying to get you to cheat online so he can break up you and your girlfriend.

No, it's not. Stop making up stories when you have the author telling specifically that these kind of situations won't happen, it's absolutely ridiculous.

Nathan wants her as a full on girlfriend, not just as a casual fuck buddy, and unlike MC he doesn't want to share.

You are wrong.

So the dev dictate how we feel about something?

No, but the dev dictates what the story is, and it's definitely not what you seem to be seeing.

I did not listen to your suggestions because they are irrelevant to what the game is about. For the simplest of reasons: you don't seem to get what the game is about. And all the while, you seem to think your (flawed) interpretation is the absolute truth. That's not a good combination.


So, to put an end to it:
- The relationship between the MC and Laura will not degrade,
- Nathan does not want Laura to break up with the MC and get with her,
- Nathan and the MC will have a good relationship,
- The story IS about Laura's sexual liberation, as much as it is (indirectly) about yours,
- The MC is a watcher, because that is his kink, that's the whole point.

But version 0.8, the one that will revamp the first three acts, will remove or tone down the "negative" answers, because they are out of place. The MC likes this kink and has no reason to fight against it. And if that was what you were looking for, sorry, but you're not in the right place.

That being said, if people really feel that the relationship between the MC and Laura gets "sidelined", I can work on that. But I'm not sure it's really useful because, let's be honest, as much as it's important to show a healthy relationship, people aren't here to see that part of the story.

 

[baka]

so, even u don't get it? I wrote multiple times about it.
it doesn't matter shit what u want to do if the result is people reacting in a certain way. u can not expect us to feel what u want. impossible.
and even if your idea is that and it all sounds great. it still create angst to the player.
but what u are saying is: "I dont give a shit about u, u are wrong or get the fuck out of here". and surely thats the conclusion.
and exactly what I posted in the previous post. if u don't understand its pointless.
so continue doing your VN however u want and just put all out feedback in the can.

 

[Modsognir]

That being said, if people really feel that the relationship between the MC and Laura gets "sidelined", I can work on that. But I'm not sure it's really useful because, let's be honest, as much as it's important to show a healthy relationship, people aren't here to see that part of the story.

Actually, I wouldn't mind seeing regular glimpses into the relationship between the MC and Laura. Or rather, I personally would appreciate it. It would result in some updates being a bit slower or more tame, but I don't think that's a bad thing.

 

[Le Stag]

so, even u don't get it? I wrote multiple times about it.
it doesn't matter shit what u want to do if the result is people reacting in a certain way. u can not expect us to feel what u want. impossible.
and even if your idea is that and it all sounds great. it still create angst to the player.
but what u are saying is: "I dont give a shit about u, u are wrong or get the fuck out of here". and surely thats the conclusion.
and exactly what I posted in the previous post. if u don't understand its pointless.
so continue doing your VN however u want and just put all out feedback in the can.

I take most feedback into consideration. Because most feedback take into account what the game is about.

I do give a shit about you, but you are wrong, yes. You seem to be looking here for something that is not, and won't ever be here. So, yes, maybe you shouldn't stay.

 

[Le Stag]

Actually, I wouldn't mind seeing regular glimpses into the relationship between the MC and Laura. Or rather, I personally would appreciate it. It would result in some updates being a bit slower or more tame, but I don't think that's a bad thing.

I'll consider having a few chapters revolving around them exclusively. But a bit later, currently the focus is on setting up the relationship with Nathan.

 

[Modsognir]

it still create angst to the player.

Only if the player goes into this with a distrustful mindset (both towards the dev and Laura). Obviously the player doesn't have the same experience and history with Laura as the MC, which can result in a mismatch in trust if the player isn't able to suspend their disbelief. But honestly... That's not the dev's problem.

 

[Le Stag]

Relationship with NATE, words of the DEv, clarified a relationship, so a couple with MC who has a fetish, let his girlfriend have a relationship with another guy, this is the vision of his being. excellent, now we understand why the whole story makes no sense.

Most people seem to have no issue understanding it.

 

[Gattsu#Struggler]

Le Stag

Just a little mispelling

or 'between the two of us'

 

[baka]

Only if the player goes into this with a distrustful mindset (both towards the dev and Laura). Obviously the player doesn't have the same experience and history with Laura as the MC, which can result in a mismatch in trust if the player isn't able to suspend their disbelief. But honestly... That's not the dev's problem.

not always. u can not say that a movie that is about some mystery but never gives any clue the fault is the watcher. surely the producer/writer need to give enough to help the watcher to understand.
what the DEV knows about the couple is not the same as we all know.
BUT this is not about that. as I wrote its how they communicate.
I know the DEV intention and that its a NTS.
but similar to a movie that show a scene with a couple where he kills her,
even if later in the movie it was not that, we get more and we understand what really happened, but during that scene we still feel those emotions that he killed her.
u can not expect me to ignore what I feel when I read how she interact with the MC? or how her friend is always using humiliate words. or when the GF is doing whatever and will do whatever while the MC is just a watcher that I just need to "TAKE IT". the DEV tells me to NOT FEEL. so of course I need to obey and stop feeling?
it doesn't work like that.
that is why I wrote: "its a NTR VN with some sweet/love moments to compensate for it" and that for me is a "bad NTS". BUT BUT BUT that doesn't mean its bad. its good for a lot of u that ENJOY this kind of story.

 

[Le Stag]

Le Stag

Just a little mispelling
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Ah, yes. Thanks.

 

[Akumatsuna]

so, even u don't get it? I wrote multiple times about it.
it doesn't matter shit what u want to do if the result is people reacting in a certain way. u can not expect us to feel what u want. impossible.
and even if your idea is that and it all sounds great. it still create angst to the player.
but what u are saying is: "I dont give a shit about u, u are wrong or get the fuck out of here". and surely thats the conclusion.
and exactly what I posted in the previous post. if u don't understand its pointless.
so continue doing your VN however u want and just put all out feedback in the can.

say for yourself, not for everyone. And maybe it is better to spend your precious and amazing feedback on other projects?

 

[baka]

yeah. Im saying this for myself and the other with similar thoughts.
not you for sure. so why are you crying? are u butt hurt?
don't worry Akumatsuna, he will create the perfect VN for u so u can fap like crazy and feel so good about it. Im happy for u. don't get me wrong. and Im ok that u don't give a crap about us that have a different thought about it. its not easy to care about others. so keep fapping and be happy.

 

[paddict21]

Ah, yes. Thanks.

I'm curious. Don't you care that the patreon version is being uploaded on here?? I mean props to you for being okay with it, just curious!

 

[Joshy92]

I have been playing this game for a bit today and I absolutely love it, but can I not save? I can't find the option anywhere.

 

[Fronte91]

Played the new version, the first new message "Hello cucky!". A snip from the achievements:


This game is Netorare and not Netorase, please change the title to reflect that and stop misleading people. Thank you.

 

[Akumatsuna]

Yeah, i have no worries so far baka
And i hope those who liked this game too. Because, for some reason, i do not feel humilation from Ashley texting "cucky", or arousal for that matter. All i see in it - her way to tease. So, maybe it is your way of seeing things that makes this game not for you. And maybe, just maybe, instead of trying to brute force Dev to make it to YOUR liking you can spend it on things that is more to your taste?

 

[Gattsu#Struggler]

Played the new version, the first new message "Hello cucky!". A snip from the achievements:
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This game is Netorare and not Netorase, please change the title to reflect that and stop misleading people. Thank you.

You're definetly mixing the "western" word cuckold with the meaning of the japanese words netorare and netorase!

netorase:
A love interest has sexual contact with someone else, with the approval of the protagonist

netorare:
A love interest has sexual contact with someone else without the approval of the protagonist

Cuckold has more definitions while netorare and netorase are more specific.
cuckold (wikipedia for cornuto friend Ilcoriglianese forte):
If a couple can keep the fantasy in the bedroom, or come to an agreement where being cuckolded in reality does not damage the relationship, they may try it out in reality.
This, like other sexual acts, can improve the sexual relationship between partners.
However, the primary proponent of the fantasy is almost always the one being humiliated,
or the "cuckold": the cuckold convinces his lover to participate in the fantasy for them, though other "cuckolds" may prefer their lover to initiate the situation instead.
The fetish fantasy does not work at all if the cuckold is being humiliated against their will.

 

[kollizzium]

Can any share a save with full gallery?) Please

 

[luccel]

man u guys are going into full on bitch mode classic ntr thread. we even got other ntr devs coming into bitch whine classic f95