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Luc77

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I miss more MC-centric episodes. At this point in the story I get the feeling that the relationship is very unbalanced. Laura is already having anal sex and anal creampies with her bulls and the MC has only had a quick blowjob. I understand that the content is focused on Laura and I agree with that, and that it all started because of the MC's fantasy. But at this point it seems that the one who is enjoying the fantasy the most is clearly Laura and the MC doesn't have any kind of reward. In the last update Laura gave us a "privilege" and I personally loved that differentiation from the rest of the bulls, it makes the MC special. But seeing how the story has gone so far, we will lose that "privilege" in one or two updates and it will no longer be just ours. I get the feeling that it has become a bit routine, like "look honey I've been with Nathan/Oliver, oops he fucked me again :)". For every time we see the mc fuck, Laura has fucked 5 or 6 more times. Don't get me wrong, I love it, but I would like to see more interaction from Laura with the guy she assumes is her boyfriend. "I can't wait for you to claim me" is fine, seeing that happen would be better. This is just an opinion, I have no right to ask for anything because I'm not a patreon. I just saw in the comments above that there were people with the same doubts as me and I wanted to express myself because I love this game. I thank LeStag for his great work and I'm looking forward to the next updates.

yes, but in the surveys (patreons) there is an advantage of "Laura's dominance" (more acceptable NTR )
 
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Dealbreaker

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Don't get me wrong, I love it, but I would like to see more interaction from Laura with the guy she assumes is her boyfriend.
Here we see the consequences of the imperative of a "balanced" and harmonious relationship for storytelling. "Balanced" ends in happy indifference. And what is there to tell or narrate between the MC and FMC anyway? What could happen? What could be interesting? She fucks. He will fuck. That's it. You get what you wanted folks. The same with the "confident and dominant" trope. If you write NTS narratives as emancipatory and empowering experiences of the women, of course her focus will shift away from the MC. The point is not whom and how she fucks, but if her fucking around is emotionally psychologically focused on her boyfriend or not. And with theses narratives it is not. She explores her own fun, her own sexuality. How could you expect that to be relevant anymore for her relationship to her boyfriend. Only thing you can do is let him say the 100th time: you go girl. And that's it.
 
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Z3lda1980

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Hoe to you think we see that he reclaims her in a phone game? Read the text and you know the mc reclaimed her

one time they send a photo to Nathan after mc reclaimed her. But for the rest you only can read it

the fantasy of the mc is the lewd adventure of Laura and she let him sees this with the pictures in the app.

and in the dominant route she lets the mc choose what she will do.

LeStag has a great game and it’s still the best between all the phone nts games that is coming out lately
 
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Turian01

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yes, but in the surveys (patreons) there is an advantage of "Laura's dominance" (more acceptable NTR )
What are you referring to?
There's been no surveys on patreon. Just some polls, and those don't mention anything on NTR or "acceptable NTR".

If you are referring to comments on Patreon (or here, or discord), Stag recently update his (discord) FAQ to be extra clear on this matter by adding this:
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Dealbreaker

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Best thing would be to say: this is now a new chapter of the overall narrative, which centers around Tara. Tell more about her background, her perspective etc. The couple is done for the moment.
 

meuh_trash

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I miss more MC-centric episodes. At this point in the story I get the feeling that the relationship is very unbalanced. Laura is already having anal sex and anal creampies with her bulls and the MC has only had a quick blowjob. I understand that the content is focused on Laura and I agree with that, and that it all started because of the MC's fantasy.
You can also see MC and Laura live outside the MC phone, she is at home every day/night except when she report thru phone of her adventures. At least it is how I see it.
When you are "at the same place/time" with someone do you text/send picture thru phone to talk with him/her ?
As long they are not sharing with the madhouse, no reason the MC have pictures except some teasing about "waiting for him".
And each time she goes around she is going back to him to be "reclaim".
 

Luc77

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What are you referring to?
There's been no surveys on patreon. Just some polls, and those don't mention anything on NTR or "acceptable NTR".
what you talking about ?

after all, there was a poll (or even two) - in which You were mentioned
about kinks you would like to see in the future
and (CNC, free use, male chasity or pregnacy/breeding kink) - this issues are close to NTR (not pure japan NTR)
its shadow between NTS - NTR
 
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Dealbreaker

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That's a very sad point of view.
It's meant as a simple description of narrative mechanics, not as a value judgement and not even as a statement about real life dynamics (where I would regard it as a matter decided by the observations of facts). And I wouldn't regard it therefore as a "point of view" (which sounds like a normative standpoint) but as an observation.
Why aren't we prepared to pay a prize for things we see as progressive and good? Nothing and especially nothing regarded as good comes without a prize to pay. If we are really serious with concepts like empowerment, especially in matters of sex, we have to accept the consequences and can't pretend that nothing changes.
 

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By the way - I have never seen a porn game, where we describe the man finding his sexual fulfillment and joy in fucking other women and at the same time making an effort as authors or viewers to claim that thereby his love for his wife /girlfriend is intensified or remaining untouched. Why? This narrative doesn't exist (and for what it's worth - the narrative of sex as an empowering experience for men isn't persued either). I don't complain about that, I'm not sure I would want to view that, but we have to keep that in mind if we want to see the whole picture and the imbalance of the narratives.
 
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Turian01

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what you talking about ?

after all, there was a poll (or even two) - in which You were mentioned
about kinks you would like to see in the future
and (CNC, free use, male chasity or pregnacy/breeding kink) - this issues are close to NTR (not pure japan NTR)
its shadow between NTS - NTR
Oh wow, a poll asking about kinks means they’re all secretly NTR now? Incredible detective work. By that logic, if a poll had 'feet' on it, would that mean the game is now a foot fetish simulator? Kinks exist independently, and just because something can be used in NTR doesn't mean it magically transforms everything into it.

Also, an interest poll isn’t a contract. Stag—you know, the guy who actually writes the game—has already shut this down completely. But hey, don’t let reality get in the way of your wild imagination.
 

Fyo

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By the way - I have never seen a porn game, where we describe the man finding his sexual fulfillment and joy in fucking other women and at the same time making an effort as authors or viewers to claim that thereby his love for his wife /girlfriend is intensified or remaining untouched. Why? This narrative doesn't exist (and for what it's worth - the narrative of sex as an empowering experience for men isn't persued either). I don't complain about that, I'm not sure I would want to view that, but we have to keep that in mind if we want to see the whole picture and the imbalance of the narratives.
Idk, I've seen a million harem games.
 

Luc77

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Oh wow, a poll asking about kinks means they’re all secretly NTR now? Incredible detective work. By that logic, if a poll had 'feet' on it, would that mean the game is now a foot fetish simulator? Kinks exist independently, and just because something can be used in NTR doesn't mean it magically transforms everything into it.

Also, an interest poll isn’t a contract. Stag—you know, the guy who actually writes the game—has already shut this down completely. But hey, don’t let reality get in the way of your wild imagination.
dats wight wabbit
 

Dealbreaker

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Idk, I've seen a million harem games.
Harem is exactly proving my point: this narrative doesn't care about a girlfriend/wife, most don't even have such a character. You didn't get my point, it is not about the fucking but what it means for your relationship to your actual partner and your attachment to him/her.
 
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awer567

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what you talking about ?

after all, there was a poll (or even two) - in which You were mentioned
about kinks you would like to see in the future
and (CNC, free use, male chasity or pregnacy/breeding kink) - this issues are close to NTR (not pure japan NTR)
its shadow between NTS - NTR
What kink is winning in the poll?
 
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