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justinking

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Does anyone else have the issue where they can't access the Backups app/feature? When I click it, it does nothing.
 

HoM11

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Which he gloats over by having Tara tease us with the fact there's pictures of it and we can't have it :cautious:
Le Stag mentioned that the story is based around his personal experiences and that Ashley is based on his friend. But with all the teasing he's done (Tara in maid outfit, teasing mmf threesome twice) I am starting to think that he's actually one of the girls and not the MC. What if... what if Le Stag is actually La Vixen?
 

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Le Stag mentioned that the story is based around his personal experiences and that Ashley is based on his friend. But with all the teasing he's done (Tara in maid outfit, teasing mmf threesome twice) I am starting to think that he's actually one of the girls and not the MC. What if... what if Le Stag is actually La Vixen?
We call him Ashley on the discord for that very reason...... ;)
Well this,... and the multiple teasing pics a day (and always in black n white :mad: )
 

notaname000

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All this Mike talk makes me think it'd be fun to see Laura hate fuck a guy. She'd have to be turned on by him but also really hate him. Also, MC must think he's cool, not understand why Laura hates him, and wants to see him get laid. That way we can all feel good when she gives in and fuck him.

I don't know how the story will work. Maybe she has a pet peeve or something and this one guy really pisses her off. MC thinks he's cool and they run into him occasionally and each time Laura grows to hate him and gets turned on by him more. Eventually she gives in and fucks him. Also, personally I'd want her to 40% regret it and 60% be turned on by it and want to do it again (evil Laura wins).

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On a total aside, Le Stag, I know a lot of people have been complaining about the story and how it feels boring now. First, of all I think you've been doing great, and I think the fact people complain just show how obsessed people are with the characters you wrote! However, I also remember the very first thing I learned about writing (in Kindergarten or something) was that stories are about conflict.

That conflict can be between a good guy and a bad guy, it can be between man and nature, between two people who love each other, it can be internal conflict, or many other combinations. I think a lot of people's complaints stem from a lack of conflict. In the beginning characters had to wrestle with their emotions, how they would see themselves as a person if they give into their kink (Tara is still struggling), how they would explain this new dynamic to the people in their lives, and how far down this path they would push it. I do think there's less conflict now, and wanted to give you some food for thought.

(FYI, I thought of this when writing the first part of this post when I realized how much fun it would be to see Laura's struggle between hating and horny, which is why I'm writing it here.)
 
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In the beginning characters had to wrestle with their emotions, how they would see themselves as a person if they give into their kink, how they would explain this new dynamic to the people in their lives, and how far down this path they would push it
Did they really, though? IIRC, at the very beginning after MC explains his kink, Laura goes through a couple of hypothetical scenarios to see if MC would feel jealous (it's like 10 lines total), then agrees to try it at the club, likes it but tells MC to not expect her to go fast (understandably) and that's about it - happy fucking for (almost) everyone involved ever since. There was one line about neighbors hearing her scream another man's name (which later is repeated but in a positive way) and one line about Laura not wanting to end up like a whore in an alley sucking 3 cocks.

Thing is, for 40+ chapters the game has followed the basic formula with 2 components: MC and Laura are open with each other in their relationship, and both are happy with their arrangement. That has been reinforced time and time again by LeStag. When people wanted drama, he added Mike cheating on his GF. Importantly, that conflict/drama didn't break that formula. But a lot of the time, when people suggested adding conflicts, they tried to break or circumvent it.

Even your example kinda does that, although, I assume, unintentionally. Ask yourself 2 questions. 1) Why would Laura sleep with a guy she hates (and want to do it again), when she has the freedom to do it with anyone she wants and already has several candidates ready and willing? 2) Why doesn't she tell MC that she hates that guy and if she does (I wasn't sure if MC not understanding her hate means that he's oblivious to it or simply doesn't share it) why do they keep seeing him? "Yeah babe, I know you hate that guy but let's keep talking to him when we run into him somehow (MC and Laura don't really interact together with people outside the Madhouse) instead of ignoring him. Oh and I would really like you to fuck the guy that you hate. Please?" MC hasn't pushed Laura into sleeping with any other guy in particular, btw. He always wanted her to have fun, not have fun with "that guy specifically". So it would be out of character to suddenly do it now.
 
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-Revan75-

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For me, Mike was too similar to Oliver. Well... In Oliver's case, he likes to humiliate MC / rub it in his face. Meanwhile with Mike, he didn't give a shit about MC at all. However the problem with Mike is that his role in the story is... limited. What can he bring if Oliver is already here?
As such, I think it was a nice idea to remove him from the story and use him to remind Laura + MC that their games can also have bad consequences as it's always possible to run into an asshole.
Moreover, the story often goes with MC / Laura doing something together before Laura does it with a bull (ex: anal, creampie), so it's possible that his girlfriend will be used as well in order to start group sex: Laura + Mike's girlfriend having fun with MC, taking pictures and sending some blurred ones to Mike to piss him off.
But as for Mike himself, I think his role is the story is already over.
 

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However the problem with Mike is that his role in the story is... limited. What can he bring if Oliver is already here?
A bigger belly. Someone who does not have a trained body like the other gym bros and is still able to make her squeeze around his cock. I personally loved the moment when our MC was quite shocked that Laura had no problem enjoying someone who's built like that. It elevates her sluttiness, in my opinion.

Too bad Le Stag decided to axe him and gave him this unflattering backstory.
 
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notaname000

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Did they really, though? IIRC, at the very beginning after MC explains his kink, Laura goes through a couple of hypothetical scenarios to see if MC would feel jealous (it's like 10 lines total), then agrees to try it at the club, likes it but tells MC to not expect her to go fast (understandably) and that's about it - happy fucking for (almost) everyone involved ever since. There was one line about neighbors hearing her scream another man's name (which later is repeated but in a positive way) and one line about Laura not wanting to end up like a whore in an alley sucking 3 cocks.

Thing is, for 40+ chapters the game has followed the basic formula with 2 components: MC and Laura are open with each other in their relationship, and both are happy with their arrangement. That has been reinforced time and time again by LeStag. When people wanted drama, he added Mike cheating on his GF. Importantly, that conflict/drama didn't break that formula. But a lot of the time, when people suggested adding conflicts, they tried to break or circumvent it.

Even your example kinda does that, although, I assume, unintentionally. Ask yourself 2 questions. 1) Why would Laura sleep with a guy she hates (and want to do it again), when she has the freedom to do it with anyone she wants and already has several candidates ready and willing? 2) Why doesn't she tell MC that she hates that guy and if she does (I wasn't sure if MC not understanding her hate means that he's oblivious to it or simply doesn't share it) why do they keep seeing him? "Yeah babe, I know you hate that guy but let's keep talking to him when we run into him somehow (MC and Laura don't really interact together with people outside the Madhouse) instead of ignoring him. Oh and I would really like you to fuck the guy that you hate. Please?" MC hasn't pushed Laura into sleeping with any other guy in particular, btw. He always wanted her to have fun, not have fun with "that guy specifically". So it would be out of character to suddenly do it now.
Has it really been 40 chapters? Time flies!

As I mentioned I didn't have the story worked out (it was meant to be a simple comment but went on longer than expect) but to answer your questions:
1) Why would Laura sleep with someone she hates?
Girls often do. In fact they often fall in love with guys they initially hated. So much so it's a cliche in romance novels.
2) Why do they keep seeing him?
In real life you run into people you hate all the time because they're adjacent to one of your orbits. Like a friend of a friend
3) In my head I picture MC (and the player) knowing Laura hates him but not understanding why. After all we've got to like him for this to be fun. Also (I assumed it went without saying but maybe that was a bad assumption on my part) that MC would never push Laura to do anything she doesn't want to, or to make her feel uncomfortable in anyway.

I just thought it would be fun to see Laura go from hating, to realizing she's 1 part attracted to him to 10 parts hating him, to realizing she's been obsessing over him and hating that, to realizing she'll one day give in and fuck him (and hating that as well).

Obviously in the very end she'll be happy with all of it, but I don't remember hate fucking as one of the kinks Le Stag wrote he planned to include, and thought it could be a fun multi-arc story that's mostly only a few lines per update but would be something fun we could look forward to.
 
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v0.22.1 keeps crashing on my PC. I was able to run 0.10 back when that was the newest no problem.
Anybody got any idea how to fix? Maybe something changed with Unity?

Also reading the thread, I get the impression Laura's doing a lot of long-term stuff with specific guys? My favorite scene so far is the one where she blew the random bar guy - I was kind of hoping for more random acts of sluttiness like that from future updates. Has any more of that been added, or is all the new stuff long-term relationships like Nathan?
 
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Yeah, I don't make it to the options screen. I click the icon, get a white window, everything slows down for a few minutes, the white window closes. At no point do I actually get to the game.
 
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