Try to get rid of the old files in your User Folder, maybe one of the logs or saves cause this error
go to %appdata%, this will take you to your AppData\Roaming folder
go up one folder to LocalLow, and delete \Le Stag
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go to %appdata%, this will take you to your AppData\Roaming folder
go up one folder to LocalLow, and delete \Le Stag
I truly need to agree. Le stag is doing a great work but a conflict makes the story more interesting. I dont mean an issue or break up and get together again but a conflict of feelings. I personaly thing that is the hottest when feelings and fucking are mixing up. Thats why i suggested nathan beconing boyfriend and mc becomes cuck (in very submissive route)
Than we would see laura slowly geting feelings for nathan and and how she struggles what to do untill she tells us that she wants nathan as her boyfriend but doesnt want to lose us too and somehow figures out a way they all three can stay in a relationship. ( building a relationship like people living together. Laura and nathan fuck mc can watch but can't fuck laura anymore still all three live togehter in the same house and nathan laura and mc like each other and have a great relationship ) and than imagen telling the madhouse= ashley teasing and taras reaction
That would be what i personaly would find the hottest but that is obviously not a must have. The point that i am trieing to make is that feeling and inner conflicts make the story hotter we had allot of them which was great untill now but i fear that this part starts to get weaker now because these feelings were about kinks and laura has done now a few thinks and is (used to them) i mean yeah she will still have to get used to new kinks and won't do them in an instand but she will not take as long as she did when the started
LeStag already has said many times Nathan (nor anyone else) is going to replace MC as boyfriend. Laura herself also said that these activities should not encroach on her relationship with the MC.
Now, the development of feelings on its own could be a conflict point, but the likely resolution of that would be that the bull is going to be kicked to the curb and I am not sure how interesting that would be.
Since I've been away for a while, quick question on the timings of the update - when would the next update get released for the public?
This would literally turn Hotwife Phone (the current game) into Cuckold Phone (your fantasy), ie it would be kind of a bait and switch that would destroy all the groundwork laid out until now. In fact, Le Stag specifically went into the opposite direction in update 0.21, when he gave Nathan a girlfriend (who is specifically *not* Laura). It's hard to see how he could be clearer about that (but at this stage, I guess even Nathan marrying Sophia and MC marrying Laura probably wouldn't be enough to convince those who desperately crave for the ultimate-cuck-go-scorched-earth-on-the-current-relationship-please route that they won't get what they want).
This is just not that kind of game, guys. Games where MC is cucked repeatedly by his wife are a dime a dozen, so you probably won't have any trouble finding what you're looking for elsewhere. Also, Sophia gives Le Stag an "out" for Nathan, who can now disappear from the game at any time, either temporarily or definitively, should the story warrant it.
As for Ashley's and Tara's reactions, it's maybe not that hard to imagine them. Tara first. MC is basically the only guy she trusts at this point, and I don't think she would enjoy seeing him "destroyed" in this way (she needs an active MC to interact with and help her out of her shell, not a passive hollow shell of a man). There's a good chance she would lose all respect, if not for MC, at least for *Laura*, for submitting her boyfriend to such an indignity. And she would probably exit the story never to return at this point, imho.
Ashley is more of a wildcard, granted. She *loves* teasing MC, calling him "cucky" etc., but notice she never goes too far. In fact, update 0.22 is very interesting regarding Ashley (and Laura). That's a spoiler if you haven't played it yet, but it almost brings the full madhouse+ (including Nathan and Marcel) relationship in a new light, especially as regards to the Ashley-Marcel dynamics. Update 0.22 is basically Laura and Ashley playing with their respective toys while waiting for the man of the house (MC) to get back to his harem (Tara's word, not mine), ie the complete oppostite of what you're asking for.
Nathan almost got nothing out of Laura twice--he ended up creampying her for the first time, but she found denying him so hot that I wouldn't be surprised if she started ruining him soon (which would flip the dynamic that MC/Laura/Nathan had at the start on its head, ie it's *MC* who is steadily gaining ground in Laura's heart and taking a more prominent role in the relationship, not Nathan). As for Ashley, she obviously totally has Marcel under her spell and now seems to want MC as a bull (it might be just teasing, sure, both for Laura and MC, but after she denied Marcel and had him jerk off to her before servicing her with his mouth, Ashley was ready and willing for MC to come fuck her while Marcel was still in the room. Would she have gone with it if Laura had said yes? Pretty sure she would have--and unless Laura needed Marcel to entertain her, there's a good chance that Ashley would have directed her BF to stay in the room, watch and jerk off again while her new bull fucked her--which Marcel hadn't been allowed to do all evening).
Ergo, neither Ashley nor Tara want a weak MC (the game is heading in the opposite direction and will almost certainly give you the opportunity to get all the girls before the end should you want that), and I don't think they would be turned on by that. Tara would probably hate it, and even if Ashley may find it fun at first, she likes that MC is sometimes able to resist her (up to a point, ofc
), or at least hold his own against her. Noone in the madhouse would "benefit" from the MC being subversient to Nathan, imho (Nathan wouldn't either, he's not Oliver or Mike; and as for Laura, well, I have a hard time seeing how the Laura that we've known since the beginning of the game would enjoy such a development--but hey, maybe that's just me).
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I do get your point. First up i just wanted to state the feelings part. Feelings in conflict make a story hot. If we get used to laura fucki ng anyone than it will soon be not as hot as before. Thats why i thought of the feeling conflict part. Secondly i do get what you say about tara and ashley and yes you are correct about it if you go the confident route but if you go the sub or very sub route that you automatly dont have mc confident. About tara if we go the sub route i think she would firstly like the news ( not in like like but in horny like/ turn her on if you get what i mean )This would literally turn Hotwife Phone (the current game) into Cuckold Phone (your fantasy), ie it would be kind of a bait and switch that would destroy all the groundwork laid out until now. In fact, Le Stag specifically went into the opposite direction in update 0.21, when he gave Nathan a girlfriend (who is specifically *not* Laura). It's hard to see how he could be clearer about that (but at this stage, I guess even Nathan marrying Sophia and MC marrying Laura probably wouldn't be enough to convince those who desperately crave for the ultimate-cuck-go-scorched-earth-on-the-current-relationship-please route that they won't get what they want).
This is just not that kind of game, guys. Games where MC is cucked repeatedly by his wife are a dime a dozen, so you probably won't have any trouble finding what you're looking for elsewhere. Also, Sophia gives Le Stag an "out" for Nathan, who can now disappear from the game at any time, either temporarily or definitively, should the story warrant it.
As for Ashley's and Tara's reactions, it's maybe not that hard to imagine them. Tara first. MC is basically the only guy she trusts at this point, and I don't think she would enjoy seeing him "destroyed" in this way (she needs an active MC to interact with and help her out of her shell, not a passive hollow shell of a man). There's a good chance she would lose all respect, if not for MC, at least for *Laura*, for submitting her boyfriend to such an indignity. And she would probably exit the story never to return at this point, imho.
Ashley is more of a wildcard, granted. She *loves* teasing MC, calling him "cucky" etc., but notice she never goes too far. In fact, update 0.22 is very interesting regarding Ashley (and Laura). That's a spoiler if you haven't played it yet, but it almost brings the full madhouse+ (including Nathan and Marcel) relationship in a new light, especially as regards to the Ashley-Marcel dynamics. Update 0.22 is basically Laura and Ashley playing with their respective toys while waiting for the man of the house (MC) to get back to his harem (Tara's word, not mine), ie the complete oppostite of what you're asking for.
Nathan almost got nothing out of Laura twice--he ended up creampying her for the first time, but she found denying him so hot that I wouldn't be surprised if she started ruining him soon (which would flip the dynamic that MC/Laura/Nathan had at the start on its head, ie it's *MC* who is steadily gaining ground in Laura's heart and taking a more prominent role in the relationship, not Nathan). As for Ashley, she obviously totally has Marcel under her spell and now seems to want MC as a bull (it might be just teasing, sure, both for Laura and MC, but after she denied Marcel and had him jerk off to her before servicing her with his mouth, Ashley was ready and willing for MC to come fuck her while Marcel was still in the room. Would she have gone with it if Laura had said yes? Pretty sure she would have--and unless Laura needed Marcel to entertain her, there's a good chance that Ashley would have directed her BF to stay in the room, watch and jerk off again while her new bull fucked her--which Marcel hadn't been allowed to do all evening).
Ergo, neither Ashley nor Tara want a weak MC (the game is heading in the opposite direction and will almost certainly give you the opportunity to get all the girls before the end should you want that), and I don't think they would be turned on by that. Tara would probably hate it, and even if Ashley may find it fun at first, she likes that MC is sometimes able to resist her (up to a point, ofc
After that she would probably be interesstet how there new relationship is suppost to work.
Than again i want to mention that at no point i would like the story to destory anyone or there relationship after all this is suppost to be a happy interesting adventure of mc laura and her friend about there kinks.
To that it could still happen that either tara and mc hock up and share the pics with the madhouse or tara hocking up with another boy or girl.
About ashley i yet cant quit figure out what her goal is. I totaly agree ashley teases everyone to the max point but doesnt overdo it but she wants the mc as the new bull ? There i need to put in that we also have the option to not have sex with her which will result in mc never having sex with her and also not become her bull. Yes ashley probably likes it if mc resists to her a bit but i do think the teasing and drolling over her makes the main happieness of her.and about sophia i do agree that she is there so that le stag can remove him from the story anytime but it could also (in my idea) be possibale that laura figures out that nathan is more than a dildo to her that is where the whole feelings part starts ( that nathan is just a human dildo for her )
But i need to add that the nathan park date /fuck and all the other date like hock ups kind of pointless if it is just sex than they can just tease each other over the phone and fuck at the location they want as soon as they are there ( and again this is for the very sub route and if you decide to ho full nathan bull route)
At last i want to say that that is what i tought after we get to know all people of the madhouse how it could go on the sub and very sub route and i wanted to stop the misunderstanding of destroying mc or break ups or people hating each other. Again i dont want and dont think that hate has anything to do with this game this game is a happy group of friends that understand each others kinks and want to help each other explore them and have fun and i think that is great and should never change.
Also i think maybe some people are mad about my idea i do think it would be a possible way the sub or very sub route could go and again could mabye le stag reads this and does understand what i thought about it now. ( i know le stag read my first commant on my idea but i think untill now everyone misunderstood it to have said hate feelings or destroying of people or somthing)
I am open for mistakes in my idea i maybe have missread or forgot about something with missleads my idea. And i am happy to talk about it.
So maybe le stag likes this idea maybe he likes some parts of it for the sub route or maybe he doesnt
And thats obversly ok most important is that le stag likes the game and continues to write it. I personaly think our ideas and commands are only there for le stag to get new ideas and ways to improve the game because at the end we all want a great long game.
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i am all down for more drama, but I think we need like to actually explore characters a bit more and give them things to do. I would also like Nathan and MC to actually like talk, and do things together. Bulls and Stags usually need a good relationship especially if they wanna be long term.
My big hope is we finally meet the characters that keep texting us, or you know have a side story about the MC going to meet one of these girls. Or nathan talking about it or us seeing other girls. Maybe Tara doing stuff, with MC, or other guys. Or you know seeing spicy camera sets with Nathan and him actually using his camera in unique ways. IDK there is so much you can do its a shame the dev has only just now started expanding the prespective shots for photos. Nathan is photographer, you telling me can't do interesting photos?
My big hope is we finally meet the characters that keep texting us, or you know have a side story about the MC going to meet one of these girls. Or nathan talking about it or us seeing other girls. Maybe Tara doing stuff, with MC, or other guys. Or you know seeing spicy camera sets with Nathan and him actually using his camera in unique ways. IDK there is so much you can do its a shame the dev has only just now started expanding the prespective shots for photos. Nathan is photographer, you telling me can't do interesting photos?
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Great idea
To add to meeting the unknown girl we tell laura before we meet her so that we both are interessted who she is.
Also i thoughr about the camara thing and thought why not place a camara in the room and make an frequenz in which the camara takes photos that way laura and bull dont need to think about it and can enjoy there time and mc gets pictures and laira can later give the pictures and story
IDK why someone disagrees, its like we want more to happen and actual stuff for the MC to do other than sit around doing nothing with the other characters. We have Tara, we have all these girls that are consistently messaging the MC and there hasn't been anything done with them yet.
First of all, not sure who you think is disagreeing, but I have 3 points to make regarding this
1. From the post that Le Stag made regarding kink talks, it seems like we are going in the direction of more content with the other girls, probably for Laura, and likely for MC as well (in some capacity, at least)
2. For someone playing a more "Confident Stag" route, I don't think you'll see complaints about more MC involvement, it just has to build up to it (which I think Le Stag is doing, it just takes time)
3. If you're playing the "Submissive Cuck" route, it would make sense that you won't be interested in a more active MC, because it's literally the opposite point of the route you're playing
I don't know what exactly you expect from the game, but judging the progression, I think we'll have chances for MC to be more active, at least with Ashley, maybe Tara as well
But we'll also probably have a chance to not do so, for people who choose to skip that content
And we'll get more advanced sex scenes with more partners, because that is where the game is leading towards
It just takes time, and unlike most other phone games, this one doesn't blow it's full load on the 5th message, it builds the events slowly, with good pacing (even if some will consider it too slow, which I can understand and respect)
TLDR, give it time and see what happens, and try to understand what others are talking about by the routes they are playing in the game, as the game facilitates multiple routes leading in (somewhat) different directions, at least when it comes to the MC
Totally different thing, Le Stag, would it be possible to select several background images at some point (and have then rotate randomly, a la Holiday Island, for example)? There are so many great pics in the gallery that it's getting very hard to choose these days (and it just gets harder with each new update--although that's kind of a nice problem to have, I know ). Thanks!
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So this is why Ashley is best girl hmmm I seeWe call him Ashley on the discord for that very reason......
Well this,... and the multiple teasing pics a day (and always in black n white
I think a conflict can arise to increase publicity of Mc it seems currently people don't think highly of Mc but imagine if a bull with mighty attitude appear and tries to control Laura and Mc takes care of him silently and swiftly it would secure mc's identity as boyfriend in people's eyes as who is able to control any conflict.
We just got through Mike, though. Introduce another conflict with another bull right now and the result would probably be, if you're being logical, that Laura would be more hesitant in looking for more bulls (maybe she'd stop altogether) if there were issues with two in a row. Which would probably cement Nathan as her go-to bull, as he is, once again, the "safe" option, ie Laura would turn into a one-bull hotwife and Nathan would probably play an even bigger role in the relationship. Not saying that this would be bad, just that Laura would be likely to get cold feet should Le Stag introduce more conflict with bulls straightaway (besides, her next options are shaping up to be Hugo and maybe Marcel, and I certainly don't expect any conflict from either of them; the way they've been presented up till now, they'll be completely under her spell and she'll have absolutely nothing to fear from either of them).
On the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised if we heard from Sarah again, and Laura and MC helped get her over Mike's betrayal (with possible naughty times between MC and Sarah).
Personally, I'd be fine with Laura leaving the MC for one of her other paramours, or having them become the main lover while the MC gets downgraded to sidepiece, provided it's something the MC willingly chooses to encourage and even help with. Even then, that would basically be an alternate ending rather than a full-on path or whatever.
Though what I'd like best of all is more random acts of sluttiness from her with no long-term anything attached to them.
Though what I'd like best of all is more random acts of sluttiness from her with no long-term anything attached to them.
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*some* people may not think highly of the MC, but many of us play it as Stag where the MC and Laura have a loving relationship built around her sharing. No conflict needed. Though I don't play the Cuck route much it's still overall an NTS game.