VN Unity Netorase Phone [v0.29.2] [Le Stag]

[Nex]

Just finished playing the update and I loved it.
Can't see the problem people have with Oliver.
We currently have three "bulls" :
1. Nathan is the safe vanilla guy who is most like the MC but who makes sure you know he is "role-playing" - more of a second boyfriend.
2. Hugo is younger and inexperienced and that allows Laura to be the leader in the relationship.
3. Oliver who is assertive / dominant and brings out Laura's submissive side and also plays to the MC's cuck/hotwife kink.

I think that gives a pretty good spread for MC and Laura to get different things from each bull which I suspect is LeStag's intention.
Sprinkle in a few other random encounters and the side quests with Ashley, Tara etc. and Laura's "modelling" career on Squaregram and there are lots of interesting possibilities ahead which I am really looking forward to.

The frequent updates (for which I am very grateful) do mean that every so often there will be one that is short of content on one path or another but that's the price we pay for regular new content.

The problem is that the MC no longer matters at all. He should just make Laura the MC now since the current MC has no input whatsoever in the relationship. That's really what is upsetting people. When it comes to a character like Oliver, obviously some people aren't going to be into his behavior or how Laura acts around him. Not to mention at this point it requires the MC to act completely out of character depending on if you went dom or not. So really, just make her the MC and force the current MC to be her submissive caged cuckold who has no input in what happens.

 

[Joratox]

Can't see the problem people have with Oliver.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that you are playing/enjoying the game without self-inserting into the story. Props to you if that's your method of playing. Myself, I like to insert into the story and roleplay that specific route. As I mentioned before, I can roleplay both a dominant character or a submissive one.

If you are inserting as well and you roleplay as a dominant MC, I'm fairly curious about how you manage to enjoy/accept another dominant character bossing you and Laura around. I'm not*(edited because I missed the word) saying it's not possible, it just seems counter intuitive for me.

Glad that you like the game. I like most parts of it myself.

 

[mrlgg]

Wish i had that much free time to write huge essays about a porn game not going exactly the way i want it to go.

 

[Comisar]

Am I to understand that somehow the game is only broken for me?

 

[Suntar]

If you are inserting as well and you roleplay as a dominant MC, I'm fairly curious about how you manage to enjoy/accept another dominant character bossing you and Laura around. I'm not*(edited because I missed the word) saying it's not possible, it just seems counter intuitive for me.

Simple. Oliver isn't competition, he's a tool MC uses to dominate and degrade Laura. Her submission to Oliver is an extension of her submission to MC.

Oliver is still human, so if he's uncomfortable with something, he has the right to reject it. MC respects his boundaries, and chooses to allow him to still continue their arrangement.

In this chapter, while MC would prefer to be present, he respects Ollivers refusal. For MC this isn't a dealbreaker, nor is it Oliver being in charge. Being present isn't required for MC, he'll still enjoy listening in/reclaiming Laura. Being there would have been a bonus, maybe something for the future.

 

[slightchance]

So, what I'll do is change the dialogues so that the idea of being in the room isn't mentioned. But people will probably complain that you're railroaded, and don't have an option to completely change the whole chapter.

Wait, what? You mean like hypothetical or are you going to actually delete the line from the game?

 

[Joratox]

Simple. Oliver isn't competition, he's a tool MC uses to dominate and degrade Laura. Her submission to Oliver is an extension of her submission to MC.

Oliver is still human, so if he's uncomfortable with something, he has the right to reject it. MC respects his boundaries, and chooses to allow him to still continue their arrangement.

In this chapter, while MC would prefer to be present, he respects Ollivers refusal. For MC this isn't a dealbreaker, nor is it Oliver being in charge. Being present isn't required for MC, he'll still enjoy listening in/reclaiming Laura. Being there would have been a bonus, maybe something for the future.

Well, thanks for your point of view. I don't see it that way at all, but that's why there's the saying "different strokes for different people"(pun intended ). It's a good thing we're all different after all.

 

[Petrix]

Simple. Oliver isn't competition, he's a tool MC uses to dominate and degrade Laura. Her submission to Oliver is an extension of her submission to MC.

Oliver is still human, so if he's uncomfortable with something, he has the right to reject it. MC respects his boundaries, and chooses to allow him to still continue their arrangement.

In this chapter, while MC would prefer to be present, he respects Ollivers refusal. For MC this isn't a dealbreaker, nor is it Oliver being in charge. Being present isn't required for MC, he'll still enjoy listening in/reclaiming Laura. Being there would have been a bonus, maybe something for the future.

Oliver is a tool in MC and Lauras relationship. If MC wants something Oliver either agrees or leaves.

 

[Jason123654]

Maaan... Why did Oliver have to come back, and, not only that, be forced unto the player. Even with the 'changes' and whatnot, him and his content, it's all just so dislikable.

I guess thats upto personal opinion, I for one really liked it, I'm usually not into that type of content, more into consentual netorase and earlier on in the chapters i agree with you, disliked oliver, but for some reason after the new chapter, I want more content involving him and being dominated by laura.

And I also agree with some people here, Oliver is just a tool, at the end of the day its the mc and laura relationship

 

[Suntar]

Oliver is a tool in MC and Lauras relationship. If MC wants something Oliver either agrees or leaves.

Sure, that's why Oliver is bound to all the rules between Laura and MC.
MC is literally only present for 1 sex scene between Laura and a bull in the entire game. It would be completely out of character to suddenly make this mandatory and a dealbreaker for a bull.
The entire game is build upon the premise that MC enjoys Laura sleeping around and telling him about it afterwards.
MC being present is a bonus, not a requirement for him. He doesn't really care, as long as Laura tells him afterwards.

 

[Joratox]

Oliver is a tool in MC and Lauras relationship. If MC wants something Oliver either agrees or leaves.

To expand on this, in a true dom sharing relationship, Oliver and any other dude that is allowed (allowed is used intentionally) to fuck Laura is nothing more than a glorified dildo. Domination is about absolute control and a master/sub relationship, not some pussy-footed respect for the "bull". If MC wants to watch, then he'll watch. If MC wants to order Laura to stop mid-fuck and come to him, then she'll obey. If Oliver doesn't like that, he's free to fuck off, but he's fucking off knowing that he'll never get the chance to touch Laura again.

I know that not everybody feels this way and that's fine, as I've said, everyone is different and has unique tastes and kinks, nothing to judge or shame about.

I also know that this game is not gonna be anywhere close to this type of story and that's fine as well. I never even intended to roleplay to this extreme, a more softcore dom/stag relationship was what I had in mind, sadly I won't get to see even that...and that's fine as well (it's my own fault anyway for getting a bit excited seeing the early routes and jumping the gun on assuming how they'll pan out). There's plenty of literature and even a few games(quite rare) that touch on these premises.

 

[Banane157]

I would like a swinging setting with Ashley and Marcel or more Tara/sarah content.

 

[Nex]

Sure, that's why Oliver is bound to all the rules between Laura and MC.
MC is literally only present for 1 sex scene between Laura and a bull in the entire game. It would be completely out of character to suddenly make this mandatory and a dealbreaker for a bull.
The entire game is build upon the premise that MC enjoys Laura sleeping around and telling him about it afterwards.
MC being present is a bonus, not a requirement for him. He doesn't really care, as long as Laura tells him afterwards.

When the idea of Oliver returning was floated and voted on I think a good chunk people expected his return would involve an understanding between him and the MC. Instead the behavior that got him removed in the first place is double downed on, with Laura now joining in on it. In general I think it's a bit silly to not recognize how this rubbed people the wrong way when it was controversial the first time he appeared in the game.

 

[Joratox]

I would like a swinging setting with Ashley and Marcel or more Tara/sarah content.

We'll probably get more of these in the future. It something that I look forward to as well.

 

[Petrix]

Sure, that's why Oliver is bound to all the rules between Laura and MC.
MC is literally only present for 1 sex scene between Laura and a bull in the entire game. It would be completely out of character to suddenly make this mandatory and a dealbreaker for a bull.
The entire game is build upon the premise that MC enjoys Laura sleeping around and telling him about it afterwards.
MC being present is a bonus, not a requirement for him. He doesn't really care, as long as Laura tells him afterwards.

Yes, I would agree, except this time MC asked to be there, and Laura refused because Oliver didn't want MC to watch.

 

[Suntar]

When the idea of Oliver returning was floated and voted on I think a good chunk people expected his return would involve an understanding between him and the MC. Instead the behavior that got him removed in the first place is double downed on, with Laura now joining in on it. In general I think it's a bit silly to not recognize how this rubbed people the wrong way when it was controversial the first time he appeared in the game.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again:
I never could fogure out what exactly people found so repulsive about Oliver on a Stag path. Nor did I notice any significant difference in his behaviour in the newest chapters.

I completely understand how people that didn't like him before are miffed by his return. I've already argued for your case.

 

[Suntar]

Yes, I would agree, except this time MC asked to be there, and Laura refused because Oliver didn't want MC to watch.

And as I have explained multiple times:
This is akin to MC asking for a cherry on top, not something he requires for their arrangement to proceed (yet). Oliver might very well become comfortable with MC's presence and then everything's gucci.
Delayed gratification, you know?

 

[Le Stag]

Especially when it involves him humiliating the MC and the MC's gf getting off on it regardless of the MC's feelings.

This doesn't happen though.

Instead the behavior that got him removed in the first place is double downed on, with Laura now joining in on it.

No, it's not.

Go play the update while saying "no" to Oliver mocking you, and show me an example of him humiliating MC. Go on, I'm waiting.

 

[Jonathanbezoz2023]

my game is stuck early in this new update, sophia message won't show but i have the blue icon

 

[Le Stag]

my game is stuck early in this new update, sophia message won't show but i have the blue icon

I'm trying to identify the source of this issue.