VN Unity Netorase Phone [v0.31.0] [Le Stag]

[Lord Bradley]

Couldn't find a thread for the other game of this dev so I just wanna quickly mention it here that it's a pretty cool intro and could some day even be quite popular game just as this one is if it saw more serious development. Obviously no one wants it to take time away from this one, but after this is complete I wouldn't mind playing that one after for sure.

Just swing by LeStag's Patreon and you can check it our right now for free.

 

[Hung1992]

I liked white hair anime girl game very much

the history mechanics organized in weeks is nice

 

[kreatywnanazwaxD]

So.... Forgive me for asking again but does someone have 100% picture or like 80% pictures save?, I would much appreciate it ❤

 

[Mwaysinful]

Agreed, as someone who plays predominantly on the stag route, I never understood the problem people had with Oliver.

I like this game a lot, but the "problem" would be that MC can not say NO to Laura regarding Oliver or mike, you can not avoid them, and at least in the stag route MC should could say no and Laura should not have sex with them because MC did not agree to it.

There should not be that loss of control in the stag route, you can not even establish that Laura should have sex with them only with a condom (Nathan included) and raw only with MC.

But there are chapters dedicated to Oliver and mike, so to remove then, add more variants and that, would be more work, so It is understandable, it is what It is.

 

[PDezMark]

I get some of the criticism people have for the various routes. And as far as I know (played) some of them may be valid. God knows i raised some as well.

Still the game is a rare one among the genre. It is actually good and fun and funny. Has and actuall story and the progress is mostly natural so to speak.

I do have to admin that developing each path with its miriad of options 100% would take much much more time and resources.

Let's not forget this is a game where choices actually matter for the most part. That is very very rare already. And the game is fun and enjoyable as well. Which is also very very rare in this genre of copy paste slop.

P.S. I also dont really like Oliver and Mike and also the fact that you cant say no to them....! Still so far its been good overall.

I think Tara has kind of balanced it out a bit....

 

[Flame0213]

Mostly full save

 

[Der_ToSch]

I get some of the criticism people have for the various routes. And as far as I know (played) some of them may be valid. God knows i raised some as well.

Still the game is a rare one among the genre. It is actually good and fun and funny. Has and actuall story and the progress is mostly natural so to speak.

I do have to admin that developing each path with its miriad of options 100% would take much much more time and resources.

Let's not forget this is a game where choices actually matter for the most part. That is very very rare already. And the game is fun and enjoyable as well. Which is also very very rare in this genre of copy paste slop.

P.S. I also dont really like Oliver and Mike and also the fact that you cant say no to them....! Still so far its been good overall.

I think Tara has kind of balanced it out a bit....

I actually have the feeling that Le Stag is somewhat the victim of his own success here. As you said, the game's overall quality and high reactivity to your choices seem to have spoiled some people. When they inevitably come face-to-face with one of the unavoidable plot points that Le Stag feels are essential to the story he wants to tell, they're surprised that they can't influence it as they're usually able to. But let's be real here. Given the number of variables that have already been implemented, the code must already resemble a Jackson Pollock painting. There's no way to please everyone all the time.

I just know that I'm fine with a few moments where I would've liked more freedom of choice, as long as I get to continue building my little harem of wholesome fuck buddies in the Madhouse (Tara, my beloved!) next to the main events.

 

[GuyOneTwo]

Mostly full save

It's been ages since I've actually seen a full save dropped in this thread ^^

 

[slightchance]

I actually have the feeling that Le Stag is somewhat the victim of his own success here.

I agree, but only in terms on holiert-han-thou tough if I can be frank. He was too sure he could deliver gold because of the rapid success of his project that he thought he could just wing it and people would lap it up. Well, the project is still very successful, especially business wise, but it looks like he had more problems reintroducing a single character than he should have. At least, it didn't feel like he had a clear vision what to do with Oliver (hence the 3rd attempt of changing the overall tone) which has more to do with inconsistent story telling than it is a coding problem.

 

[Morgenes]

I like this game a lot, but the "problem" would be that MC can not say NO to Laura regarding Oliver or mike, you can not avoid them, and at least in the stag route MC should could say no and Laura should not have sex with them because MC did not agree to it.

There should not be that loss of control in the stag route, you can not even establish that Laura should have sex with them only with a condom (Nathan included) and raw only with MC.

I just don't see why the MC would want to say no though. He's started all this by asking Laura to fuck other men, having him pick and choose who that is and how she does it makes it all about him, rather than something they're doing together.

Le Stag obviously wanted to give Laura some autonomy, which is a good thing - that makes a her a character, rather than just some sex robot. It makes sense she gets to choose who she fucks and how she fucks them. This game is telling a story, it's not some simulation where you control each and every aspect. Perhaps the dev has made a mistake giving too much choice in certain areas, thus it stands out when the player isn't given one.

I think the MC (and thus the player) already has enough control by filtering out the kinks they don't like (which makes sense - this is porn, after all), plus he can still say no to allowing bulls to creampie Laura, so I don't see what difference it makes whether they wear condoms or not.

Like I said in my post, the only person that makes logical sense (from a narrative POV) for MC to veto would be the coworker, due to the whole "don't shit where you eat" type thing. But even then, this game operates in it's own reality, where this type of relationship just coasts along without any problems (internally at least), so we know everything is going to work out in the end.

 

[Der_ToSch]

I agree, but only in terms on holiert-han-thou tough if I can be frank. He was too sure he could deliver gold because of the rapid success of his project that he thought he could just wing it and people would lap it up. Well, the project is still very successful, especially business wise, but it looks like he had more problems reintroducing a single character than he should have. At least, it didn't feel like he had a clear vision what to do with Oliver (hence the 3rd attempt of changing the overall tone) which has more to do with inconsistent story telling than it is a coding problem.

I see what you're saying. But I would think that is more owed to the fact that this is his first project like this. At least as far as I could discern. It is also his only big revenue stream. Based on his earlier post, where he said he never wanted to cut Oliver in the first place, I assume he was simply overwhelmed by how people blow up on the internet, even if it's just a vocal minority, and then he overcorrected. In my opinion, the rewrite we got now, where we can tell Oliver to tone down his rhetoric, would have sufficed in the first place, but good luck making all the right choices the first time when you're suddenly in the spotlight.

 

[kinkycapers]

I just don't see why the MC would want to say no though. He's started all this by asking Laura to fuck other men, having him pick and choose who that is and how she does it makes it all about him, rather than something they're doing together.

Well, because in real life, this kink of wifesharing does exist and there's a spectrum to it. While it is true that on one end of the spectrum, you have real cuckolds and slutwives that are into humiliation, gangbangs, and fucking anyone under the sun and whatnot, there's also the other end of the spectrum of hotwife-ing where it's not just about the wife fucking other men, but also about who she fucks. Some go as far as to only fuck with a dedicated FWB. And it's not just about the husband picking and choosing, but both of them agreeing on someone, because the wife can also say no to someone that the husband approves of.

It's true that the cuckold end of the spectrum tends to get much more attention, due to how extreme it can get. That and people on the other end of the spectrum tend to be more secretive about it to avoid the lifestyle from affecting the way their friends/family perceive them. I just feel it'd be a disservice to the kink to only cover one end of the spectrum and not the other. But at the same time, it is, and should be, completely up to LeStag to write whatever they want to write about; IMO, it's wrong for our opinion to change what he wants to write, against his will.

 

[kreatywnanazwaxD]

Mostly full save

Thank you kind sir

 

[Ritesh.crazy97]

Saw the pic with dominatrix outfit on FMC. Is there a femdom route present?

 

[Morgenes]

Well, because in real life, this kink of wifesharing does exist and there's a spectrum to it. While it is true that on one end of the spectrum, you have real cuckolds and slutwives that are into humiliation, gangbangs, and fucking anyone under the sun and whatnot, there's also the other end of the spectrum of hotwife-ing where it's not just about the wife fucking other men, but also about who she fucks. Some go as far as to only fuck with a dedicated FWB. And it's not just about the husband picking and choosing, but both of them agreeing on someone, because the wife can also say no to someone that the husband approves of.

It's true that the cuckold end of the spectrum tends to get much more attention, due to how extreme it can get. That and people on the other end of the spectrum tend to be more secretive about it to avoid the lifestyle from affecting the way their friends/family perceive them. I just feel it'd be a disservice to the kink to only cover one end of the spectrum and not the other. But at the same time, it is, and should be, completely up to LeStag to write whatever they want to write about; IMO, it's wrong for our opinion to change what he wants to write, against his will.

Yeah, that's the case IRL, but we're playing a game that follows the narrative laid out by the dev. As far as we're concerned we are following that other end of the spectrum, even on the sub cuck route, because the MC and Laura do both agree with the choices of who she fucks. If the player could pick and choose each bull, they'd be missing out on entire chunks of content. I understand people wanting that level of control IRL, but it doesn't really make sense in the context of this game.

There's no choice involved when it comes to Nathan or Hugo either, but I never see anyone complaining about that. Why are Oliver (and Mike to a lesser extent) always the ones complained about?

 

[Ronny8888]

I repeat, why go and create a NTr path to cheat, if you write the title Netarase, NTS, then in the story, you modify and create that state of the red sentences of a person who cheats, then, it is no longer the couple's game, but becomes the MC's game for a path, and Laura's game for her selfish pleasures, another path, there you go, you break your title.

 

[ThyMaster117]

Its annoying that you tell her not to see Oliver and then Oliver comes back disregarding your earlier choice and you have to endure him being with Laura. Like why give you the option just to force him back?

 

[Der_ToSch]

Yeah, that's the case IRL, but we're playing a game that follows the narrative laid out by the dev. As far as we're concerned we are following that other end of the spectrum, even on the sub cuck route, because the MC and Laura do both agree with the choices of who she fucks. If the player could pick and choose each bull, they'd be missing out on entire chunks of content. I understand people wanting that level of control IRL, but it doesn't really make sense in the context of this game.

There's no choice involved when it comes to Nathan or Hugo either, but I never see anyone complaining about that. Why are Oliver (and Mike to a lesser extent) always the ones complained about?

Well, I think that's easy to explain. Those two simply represent the more extreme and potentially more degrading side of the spectrum.

From what I've seen on this forum so far, the most common complaint about Nathan from the cuck side is that he's too vanilla. This is not an unfair description, but at the end of the day, while he's too tame for those people, at least he's another bull for the FMC. On the other hand, the Stags I've seen complaining about Oliver (and, as you said, to a lesser extent, Mike) are reacting more or less along the lines of "I never asked for this!". This isn't surprising to me because I'm pretty sure the Stag group includes many people who are new to the fetish or prefer the "lighter" side. Those who are not just playing the Stag path to be the dom, but also, or maybe solely, trying to control that they don't bite off more than they can chew.

So, if one side's main complaint is that things aren't going far enough for their taste and the other side's complaint is that things are going too far, I'm not surprised that the first group is mostly just reacting with mild annoyance while the second group is sometimes reacting much more passionately. The first group is still getting part of what they want, after all, while the second group is in over their heads.

 

[luccel]

I repeat, why go and create a NTr path to cheat, if you write the title Netarase, NTS, then in the story, you modify and create that state of the red sentences of a person who cheats, then, it is no longer the couple's game, but becomes the MC's game for a path, and Laura's game for her selfish pleasures, another path, there you go, you break your title.

cause there is no ntr path, just cause your feelings make you insecure about the nts doesn't make it ntr.

id just stop consuming any content the feature nts since you cant handle it without crying ntr. Games without nts in them seem to suit your preferences and metal capacity more .

 

[Morgenes]

Well, I think that's easy to explain. Those two simply represent the more extreme and potentially more degrading side of the spectrum.

From what I've seen on this forum so far, the most common complaint about Nathan from the cuck side is that he's too vanilla. This is not an unfair description, but at the end of the day, while he's too tame for those people, at least he's another bull for the FMC. On the other hand, the Stags I've seen complaining about Oliver (and, as you said, to a lesser extent, Mike) are reacting more or less along the lines of "I never asked for this!". This isn't surprising to me because I'm pretty sure the Stag group includes many people who are new to the fetish or prefer the "lighter" side. Those who are not just playing the Stag path to be the dom, but also, or maybe solely, trying to control that they don't bite off more than they can chew.

So, if one side's main complaint is that things aren't going far enough for their taste and the other side's complaint is that things are going too far, I'm not surprised that the first group is mostly just reacting with mild annoyance while the second group is sometimes reacting much more passionately. The first group is still getting part of what they want, after all, while the second group is in over their heads.

I get what you're saying but neither of those characters need to be seen as extreme or degrading, since you as a player can opt out of the humiliation from Oliver (starting from when he was first introduced) and the cheating roleplay from Mike. Then they just become different flavors of bull that should be more than tolerable even on the stag route. If Oliver was all buddy-buddy with the MC, he'd just be a carbon copy of Nathan. It's good to have a bit of variety.

Sure, Oliver is cocky - but if I guy I didn't know suddenly asked me to fuck his hot girlfriend, I'd be pretty cocky too. And if people are going to compare things to real life, then there's plenty of bulls out there that look down on cucks, even if they don't make it apparent. There was a nice little comic someone recently posted in the fan art thread, that shows an encounter with Laura from Oliver's POV. It implies that his feelings for Laura run a bit deeper than he lets on, and it's his jealousy of the MC that fuels his resentment and attitude towards him. Fits quite well in the narrative of the game. All I'm saying is that Oliver having a bit of an edge adds to the game, it doesn't detract from it. Same could be said of Mike if he hadn't turned out to be a cheating scumbag

Personally I think some people are self-inserting too hard into the game, and the moment when Le Stag starting catering to them is when the game started to lose focus. This isn't an RPG, it's a VN - we're going along with the MC's journey, not making our own. Laura has the bulls she has because both she and the MC are happy with them, and players need to deal with that. There's no cheating, no NTR - it's just plain NTS, pure and simple, in a perfect little virtual reality where nothing goes wrong with the relationship.