fivesteaks

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The main problem is that no sane person would hardcode actual scenes in Java itself
This is exactly how the game was originally written. Supposedly this changed with one of the major releases, but I suspect there's still a healthy amount of hardcoded scenes in place.

There is nothing wrong with Java, but JS or Python would be imho better choice for game like this mainly because they support good modern UI frameworks.
I've actually followed this game since it started. Ostrich had no qualms admitting that Newlife was an experiment that he was using to learn Java. The problem with this game is it's being built by an amateur, and this is plainly obvious by looking at the UI and the absolutely bonkers way the "custom scenes" are built.

And honestly it isn't even the amateurish code or the fact that he's supposedly learning as he's going -- there are plenty of first-time devs on this site who manage to make decent first attempts at games -- it's that he has also adamantly refused any outside help and arrogantly shut down anyone who has offered to help refactor some of the code or the UI. It's one thing to want to retain creative control, but when you've got enough backers to hire a small team there's an obligation to put in some actual effort and make progress toward a completed game. "Fixes for minor text issues" is not enough. Getting outside help under an NDA would be the least he could do.

This may be a bit harsh but it irks me when I see devs that milk their patrons and make little to no progress when there are so many others who are putting in a ton of effort to make really good content and they barely get enough support to buy a cup of coffee.
 

BruceLee73

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You are being extremely generous, believing most of the patrons pay over 12$. Considering the number of patrons and the tiers, it's between 4k to 16k and most likely somewhere closer to the middle, i.e somewhere at the 6k-8k range. Which is still too much for this "game"
there actually once was a glimpse at what he made (probably by mistake; it was removed quickly) but in 2019 the number was way above your 6-8 k. like double.
 
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exks67

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Is the discord private or can you give us a link so I can find some player created content? If not, is it possible that you post some? Because I have failed to find any costum characters myself.
Edit: NVM I have become the thing I hate, I completely missed the links being in the OP
If you go on his blog, (which can be found on his patreon page) there's a link that leads to his discord page I hope that made sense lol
 

SSiKK

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I'm curious to see if someone can do a newlife but, life. ^^
A newlife but with a male protagonist. Too much textual game with good concept but only female protagonist. The slice of life style is kinda good because it give a lot of possibilities
 

Pajonk

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So pretty much another worthless update not worth downloading... Splendid Ostrich you suck Sir.
 
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I'm fairly certain that the only reason he's still making any money off of this game is because he's more or less "cornered the market" in that there's not a lot of fempov games out there that have the specific elements his game does (turn based/customization/custom NPCs)
There's also the fact that Newlife is pretty easy to play and blow through content despite all the problems with rng and making characters have X characteristics to fire a scene, if you look at the "competition" it's either way more convoluted to do shit in and stuff is gated way harder, or it's stuck in bug hell(cough accidental woman cough)
I still think the best thing SO did with the game, was making it based on a week and simplifying actions, I hate the control every hour of every day thing that girl life and accidental woman do
 

Taryana

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5 years in....same job, same apartment, same sex positions. But now you can sit on the couch and make out with your SO. This is a microcosm of why a monopoly is a bad thing. Had Lame Handed Ostrich had even a scintilla of competition he would have folded and quit or actually competed and improved. Instead, he reaps his rewards. Only a matter of time, only a matter of time before someone with the code ability, the writing skills, and the ambition take his money away from him be making a female protagonist text lifesim like Newlife that doesn't suck.
 

bmul

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5 years in....same job, same apartment, same sex positions. But now you can sit on the couch and make out with your SO. This is a microcosm of why a monopoly is a bad thing. Had Lame Handed Ostrich had even a scintilla of competition he would have folded and quit or actually competed and improved. Instead, he reaps his rewards. Only a matter of time, only a matter of time before someone with the code ability, the writing skills, and the ambition take his money away from him be making a female protagonist text lifesim like Newlife that doesn't suck.
Who is the worse one, the provider for giving out a shitty product or the consumer for purchasing and supporting said products excistance for this long? You cannot make this arguement friend. Is he a trashy dev? Sure. And they do say that as long as there is a market for it there will be products. There is a market here clearly then if he managed to make so much money for this long. However maybe with the development from his supporters or fans, maybe because the fans themselves never play anything else, the matter of fact is they keep supporting the "work". So I ask again, is the man that is taking advantage of stupidity at fault, or is the stupid man at fault for having no critical thinking?
 

DDetrix

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Who is the worse one, the provider for giving out a shitty product or the consumer for purchasing and supporting said products excistance for this long? You cannot make this arguement friend. Is he a trashy dev? Sure. And they do say that as long as there is a market for it there will be products. There is a market here clearly then if he managed to make so much money for this long. However maybe with the development from his supporters or fans, maybe because the fans themselves never play anything else, the matter of fact is they keep supporting the "work". So I ask again, is the man that is taking advantage of stupidity at fault, or is the stupid man at fault for having no critical thinking?
Game is pretty much written by the community. It's a bit annoying to see the quality all over the place but would I'd like to shake the hand of the guy who wrote the sex system. He did an amazing job... too bad he is not getting the funds.
 

gobbet

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Game is pretty much written by the community. It's a bit annoying to see the quality all over the place but would I'd like to shake the hand of the guy who wrote the sex system. He did an amazing job... too bad he is not getting the funds.
Uhm... That would be SO, the dev.
 

SacredBlack

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I see this argument would never end.
Every new update, this argument will repeat itself.
Whether you support or didnt support the game or the developer, nothing will change.
Because the game itself doesnt change much.

If you play newlife from 3 years ago
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Play newlife current version
You wont feel like you lose any gameplay experience.
What will you lose? A little flavor in text, a little bugfix, ability to create porn etc. Not much I would say. As they doesnt really change the gameplay.
The event in the game is hard to trigger. For example boyfriend jerk friend event, your boyfriend need to not have doormat or like to share personality. Unless you create your boyfriend with npc creator(or just do it manually), you have like 25% chance to trigger it one random boyfriend.
Other event are the same. Hard to trigger because the requirement usually involve u replaying the whole thing. But the event itself is scarce.


I would say just abandon all hope and dream for this game as it already "complete" in a sense that it never meant to be complete in the first place. Just a money milking scheme.
Whether it the developer fault or whether it the supporter fault, that's another story.
 

Taryana

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Who is the worse one, the provider for giving out a shitty product or the consumer for purchasing and supporting said products excistance for this long? You cannot make this arguement friend. Is he a trashy dev? Sure. And they do say that as long as there is a market for it there will be products. There is a market here clearly then if he managed to make so much money for this long. However maybe with the development from his supporters or fans, maybe because the fans themselves never play anything else, the matter of fact is they keep supporting the "work". So I ask again, is the man that is taking advantage of stupidity at fault, or is the stupid man at fault for having no critical thinking?
Being sarcastic about a goldbricking dev is not lacking critical thinking. It is having fun at his expense among a forum crowd who mostly enjoys trashing him. The sad fact is he would make more money had he actually put work into it. Look at Eva Kiss, put work into a VN with traceover images and is lauded both with financial support and forum accolades. Now Our Red String has a mighty backwind to its development because a dev simply put in the work.

Save your contrarian forum banter for someone who cares. What is worse, the dev who milks his crowd or the person who comes to a forum to defend him?
 

bmul

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You can choose not to take advantage of people. You can't choose to not be stupid. So the one taking advantage of others.
Being sarcastic about a goldbricking dev is not lacking critical thinking. It is having fun at his expense among a forum crowd who mostly enjoys trashing him. The sad fact is he would make more money had he actually put work into it. Look at Eva Kiss, put work into a VN with traceover images and is lauded both with financial support and forum accolades. Now Our Red String has a mighty backwind to its development because a dev simply put in the work.

Save your contrarian forum banter for someone who cares. What is worse, the dev who milks his crowd or the person who comes to a forum to defend him?
Not supporting the dude, no. Instead I am saying I would do the exact same thing if I were in his place. Why do better when you can attain what you want with no sweat? We are all after all using this forum to get access to games, tiers, benefits, for free. I just know that I am scum.
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