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don't let the door hit you on your way out.
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What you call slow-burn I call realism and relationship development. You just can't expect two family members who all their life knew there shouldn't be any sexual relationship between them, to just forget every principle and have sex with each other in just two weeks.
It takes time to first get used to the idea of being attracted to a the person you were not supposed to.
Then it takes even more time to find the guts to act based on your attractions.
Then you have to let the other person know how you feel. Just because you got used to the idea that your sister/mother is hot, doesn't mean she has to sleep with you. Now it's her turn to have the same fights.
After that they have to pass the first steps together. First kiss, first handjob, first blowjob and so on.
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I understand it can be frustrating to see a game which is more than a year in development to not reach the hot stuff, but even if for you it's been a year, for the characters in the game it's been only a few weeks. So because I can't afford to do this full time or even better hire more people to help me out so that we can make more content and progress each relationship faster, this is the price we have to pay.
The same thing goes for most developers who didn't cross a certain step. You can't expect a developer who is doing this as a second job, to give the same amount of content as someone who has 2000 patrons and earns in a month as much as I earn in a year.
It takes time to first get used to the idea of being attracted to a the person you were not supposed to.
Then it takes even more time to find the guts to act based on your attractions.
Then you have to let the other person know how you feel. Just because you got used to the idea that your sister/mother is hot, doesn't mean she has to sleep with you. Now it's her turn to have the same fights.
After that they have to pass the first steps together. First kiss, first handjob, first blowjob and so on.
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I'm sure you can find plenty of materials. This is a visual novel. And just like a real novel there is a story that is being told.I understand it can be frustrating to see a game which is more than a year in development to not reach the hot stuff, but even if for you it's been a year, for the characters in the game it's been only a few weeks. So because I can't afford to do this full time or even better hire more people to help me out so that we can make more content and progress each relationship faster, this is the price we have to pay.
The same thing goes for most developers who didn't cross a certain step. You can't expect a developer who is doing this as a second job, to give the same amount of content as someone who has 2000 patrons and earns in a month as much as I earn in a year.
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Of course I always hope for some 'action' with my favorite chars or some good naughty renders, but I prefer your approach with the (more or less) realistic relationships.
There are visual novels and some games which focus on the lewd scenes only and I find them boring as hell. They might have nice renders, but they lack something one can not just see, but also relate to.
You found a good balance between story and action, keep going.
ps: I admit I didn't like Charlotte's "coming out" at all and it almost made me exclude her from the game, but that probably means it hit a button in me which made me dislike it, others might react differently to that same button. In any case it means that you hit the ... ot at least 'a' spot.
" What you call slow-burn I call realism and relationship development. You just can't expect two family members who all their life knew there shouldn't be any sexual relationship between them, to just forget every principle and have sex with each other in just two weeks. " Here is your problem. It hasn't been 2 weeks. It has been YEARS.
Charlotte is writing a book, her 1st BOOK. You don't just wake up and start writing a book. You plan it out, play the scenes in your head for several months or years before you get the courage to actually start writing. Charlotte is the MC of the book. The MC's love interest in the book is the MC of the game. So long before they moved ( the game began) Charlotte has been dreaming of her and MC being together. The only thing that has been stopping her before the move is that her husband was fulfilling some of he roles as a husband. He was providing. He was giving them a good home and his money was providing for them and the home. That isn't the case anymore. The bedroom is dead. He is never there, thus he isn't protecting the family. He isn't providing for the family ( hasn't given them any money). Actually right now he is a burden to the family. The feelings have been there and for a lot longer then 2 weeks. So REALISTICALLY with how she feels for MC and the behavior of her husband, Charlotte should have already acted on her feelings. The night of the husband's office party (yes first demo if I remember correctly). The Husband HUMILIATES her in front of his friends (that would have killed all respect and love she had for him right there). MC has to come get her (Knight in Shinning armor riding up on his faithful steed to rescue the lovely princess). Everything was there. Charlotte angry at the husband, her love for MC, MC saving her and her drinking. So realistically it would have happened right then. Should have happened and most can see that. Heck there has been many times since that part of the game that is SHOULD have happened. The only reason it didn't is cause you Dev wanted to drag it out. Yes we all get it you believe it makes the game more romantic slow burning the story. I for one find it FRUSTRATING as Hell.
Trish, has never had a boyfriend. My god why not the girl is GORGEOUS. Oh that's right no other guy could compare to MC. Why would she need to compare other guys to MC. hmmmmmmmmm Oh cause she has a crush on MC and once again long before the move. Heck she was even jealous of MC's girlfriend and would call her a "GOLDDIGGER". So again Dev the feelings were there and long before the 2 weeks (long before the game began). So you have 2 horny hormonal teenagers (even 20 year olds) damn near naked sleeping in the same bed for days. Specially with Trish having a crush already on MC. Heck Trish would have loved to have fucked MC and stolen him from his girlfriend. IT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED. Realistically they would have been banging like rabbits by the second night.
Sorry you can't use REALISM to justify the slow burn in the game when the feelings were already there before the game even started. So let's look at Reality. The reality is that Trish is a 12 and Charlotte is a 15. So there would be a line of boys and a line of men outside their front door 3 blocks long all waiting to ask either of them out. Reality is that those guys from the Husband's office party would have been over the very next day to offer Charlotte ANY and ALL ASSISTANCE with her situation. You can't use Realism and then ignore Reality.
I get that you are getting frustrated with what we are all saying. But we aren't doing it cause we hate the game. We are doing it cause we all like and love the game. You say it has only been 2 weeks. Thing is by the end of the demo we could tell Trish had a crush on MC. Charlotte had more then motherly feelings for MC and MC loved them both more then in a family way. As the game went on we realized it was more then just a crush with Trish. When the book idea came out and we found out who the love interest was in the book, we knew Charlotte was in fact in love with MC and for awhile.
P.S. if you facepalm this, that is fine. But at least have the courage to tell me where you think I am wrong.
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I agree with the sentiments expressed here. I wanted to add a point that this reflects. RC - part of the issue with the 2 week defense is that you've shown us the internal intentions of Charlotte and Trish. Because we know this we know the depth of their feelings for the MC, and his feeling for them. They all know what they want from each other. I'm not saying that they should be screwing each other like rabbits at this point, but it's hard to argue that things shouldn't be moving more quickly.
That said, I fully support that it's your VN and your story to tell in your own way. I'm just offering feedback, that is worth no more than you paid for it. Really love this VN. Thanks for all your hard work.
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What the hell are you on about man? You can't use realism and ignore reality? That sounds deep when your smoke your first joint or something, it's also ironic because the shit your talking about is subjective as shit.
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ropershy
You are ignoring one thing, they are blood relatives.
It's about overcoming the existing taboo.
There are worlds between fantasy and what you live out .
You can find your mother hot, your mother you, your father an asshole or dead, but in "realism" very few fuck their own family (except in Alabama).
You are ignoring one thing, they are blood relatives.
It's about overcoming the existing taboo.
There are worlds between fantasy and what you live out .
You can find your mother hot, your mother you, your father an asshole or dead, but in "realism" very few fuck their own family (except in Alabama).
and you are forgetting that at the husband's office party (where she was already drinking). The husband humiliated her in front of others.
So that leaves Charlotte pissed off, drunk, sexually frustrated as hell and madly in love with MC. The being drunk would have over ridden any social boundaries. Now would she had regretted it the next morning when she was sober. HELL YES.
As far as Trish is. You are forgetting they shared a bed for at least a week. They would have ended up spooning with his cock between her ass. Wouldn't take long before both were thinking with a different part of their body besides their brains. Besides who would know but MC and Trish?
royalcandy
I really like the pacing in your story. Keep going and don't pay attention to the haters.
I really like the pacing in your story. Keep going and don't pay attention to the haters.
actually I have never smoke a joint. But it seems you have a problem understanding. So instead of explaining where you think I am wrong you just go straight to the insults.
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Dude, you're practically my soul brother. And that's exactly why I love incest games, for me, incest is way beyond other fetishes.
As for that slow burn that some are complaining about, I agree with every sentence and every comma you wrote.
This is what makes incest (in games, to be clear, there are some who confuse reality with fiction) something sublime and charming. The forbidden, the sin, the internal struggle against a burning feeling, an uncontrollable desire for the unattainable, for what should be taboo.
And in your game, you're portraying that very well. I don't think it's a slow burn, it's managing to show these internal conflicts, for me it's going at a very pleasant pace. It could even go slower in my opinion, knowing each other's love, but trying to resist it, giving in and at the same time trying to run away from it.
There are a lot of incest games, some get to sex fast, others take longer, I prefer the ones that take longer (no AWAM, for God's sake), a slow burn, like yourself from that, something more realistic.
One thing I wouldn't like to see (I think and hope it doesn't exist in the game), would be if the main Lis (mother and sister) tried to escape this feeling, looking for other people to try to stifle this feeling, thus betraying the mc.
It may even be something more realistic, to some extent understandable, but they wouldn't just be betraying the MC, but themselves, betraying a beautiful feeling that is love, and that, for me, would end all the romance atmosphere in the game. . There's the money part, I hope they don't have to subject themselves to something unpleasant, because of it.
I don't mean to say what you should do with your game, the game is yours. Follow what you have planned for him. If I, or someone else doesn't like what's to come, we're free to drop the topic, and look for something we like.
Anyway, I'm loving every part of the game, go at your own pace, it's very well written so far, don't rush anything. And show us something wonderful, a beautiful love story, breaking down barriers and taboos. And gift us with a beautiful ending.
Well, some might find the blow jobs for the key contributors annoying, so that's not exactly nothing.
My apologizes. It was sarcasm. Pointing out the degree politicians will debase themselves for contributions.
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Precisely because they are both in love with the MC, they do not throw themselves at anyone else. The two are aware of their feelings, the MC not yet at the beginning. After all, he has a girlfriend.
Sure, you could have shortened the story, but you could do that with any story. Forrest Gump could have realized earlier that he didn't have to wait for the bus. Then the movie would have been much shorter, too.
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Yes it may be more than 2 weeks, but it's not years. To make sure I don't drag the game too much, I started the game with the girls to a point where they already have some feelings towards the MC. This way we get all the internal fights at the same time and we could move to more intimate things sooner. The initial plan was for the MC to fall in love with these girls and then make them fall in love with him too. But that would have mean that at first we needed the MC to acknowledge his feelings, get over the taboo, then try and court the ladies, then the ladies would have the same path, for the sake of rushing a little bit the process I made both Charlotte and Tris like this.
The book was actually started very recently. It was nothing planned. Charlotte was sexually frustrated so she wanted to escape this by living in a fantasy. The book was not initially about the MC (once the MC and Charlotte will be in a relationship they will discuss the book too).
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I don't usually put my personal life on the internet, but Tris is based on a girlfriend I had back in Highschool. Her cousin and I were very good friends and we were good friends because we were very similar in a lot of areas. We had the same type of humor, more or less the same lack of muscular structure, we both had the same aspirations and a lot of other similarities. So my girlfriend was the kind of girl who was always protected by her cousin. He was always there for her. Whenever she had a problem she would go talk to him, because he was the closest person in the world. Did she had any feelings about him. Of course not, but when I appear in their life, a guy who resembled him very much, he saw in me the perfect guy, because she wanted a man who would protect her, make her laugh, talk about her problems, just like her cousin, because that's how she taught a man should be. That was the standard for her.
Now Tris is just like that. She was not in love with the MC at first and even if she was, it was a strange feeling. She was looking for a guy who resembled the MC very much, because that was the standard for her. That's what a good man should be like. She saw how the MC behaved with the ladies and thought she would want the same. She was jealous on Emma? Yes. But she was jealous on the fact that a girl like Emma, who she thought was a golddigger could have landed a guy like her brother, while she, a sweet girl who only wants love could not find a guy like that. She was jealous on her because of the situation not because of the person she was dating.
However things didn't go as Tris would have hoped for. She would have never thought that she would see her brother like a man, but then they got closer and closer and now she's teasing him and she doesn't understand why she does it. She realizes that she doesn't want a man who resembles her brother, because she wants him, because he's the perfect guy.
She is fighting the feeling and usually loosing, otherwise I don't explain how on earth a sister would allow her brother to hump her ass cheeks. She slowly stopped seeing her brother like a brother and start seeing him as a man and playfull and crazy as she is, she also likes to have fun with him, teasing him and so on, because it's nice for a girl who didn't had a boyfriend to feel wanted, to feel beautiful and her brother having a boner is just that.
In my opinion this is the reality. Yes you are right. By how good both girls look like, there would have been a line of men outside their front door waiting to ask them out, but having an antagonist in this type of games is not well appreciated. I would have loved to create a man who wants Tris and Charlotte, a man who if the player screws up would get them, because that's what realism is, but an antagonist is very well considered NTR and as soon as I have the NTR tag, I loose half of the patrons and the game got 2.3 stars, so I had to cut this part of realism out of the game, but I will keep the relationships as natural as possible, without making them too slow or too rushed.
No man in his right mind would have read my comment who was very long then write an even longer review, because he hates the game. I understand your point of view and it's valid. I just explained how I see the things. It's normal to feel different, but if it's any help, the wait will be over very soon.
Cheers,
Jason