VN Ren'Py No More Money [v3.6.0 S3 Ep.6 GE] [RoyalCandy]

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SonsOfLiberty

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The entire system is broken. Some devs delay so that they can make dollars, which leads to frustration from the supporters.
It's literally $40 for 3 days...

Saturday it's $20 for gold, then $5 for normal, that's not very absurd at all, those super high tier Patreon's pay for the privilege of having the game before anyone else and who believe in the project.
 

BorgiaBou

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It's literally $40 for 3 days...

Saturday it's $20 for gold, then $5 for normal, that's not very absurd at all, those super high tier Patreon's pay for the privilege of having the game before anyone else and who believe in the project.
Yeah but this is an exception now, otherwise its 5 days or so... the problem lies imo what if i'm a 20-10 bucks patreon for i dunno lets say half a year straight and then comes a one time 40 bucks patreon and gets the game before me althoug i supported way more financially... see where i'm going?
 

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It's literally $40 for 3 days...

Saturday it's $20 for gold, then $5 for normal, that's not very absurd at all, those super high tier Patreon's pay for the privilege of having the game before anyone else and who believe in the project.
From that aspect, it looks like a great value, but when I look at the overall cost of the game, even $5 per episode is costly. This new release is episode 20, which brings the total to $100 and we're somewhere in the middle of the story. Would you pay $100 - 200 for a PC game? Maybe so, that's not for me to judge and have no issues with those that would find entertainment value in doing so. I think that $150 - 200 is too high for such things, but I'm cheap. I'm not really complaining in these posts, just wishing for some system that I felt more comfortable with. $40 - 50 for the finished product is a no-brainer to me for a good game, but the devs need a larger audience for that to work well. Maybe I'm just becoming my father in that he feels things should still cost what they did in the 1970s. I want 1990s pricing, dangit! :)
 

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Yeah but this is an exception now, otherwise its 5 days or so... the problem lies imo what if i'm a 20-10 bucks patreon for i dunno lets say half a year straight and then comes a one time 40 bucks patreon and gets the game before me althoug i supported way more financially... see where i'm going?
It's an extra 5 days for the $5 tier usually, but the "gold" has always leaked here before it even gets to it.

There is an unsubscribe button, use it. I don't worry about what other people do with their money. Many don't sub until the update is out (that's what I do for games I like), and he has also given refunds to the $40 Patreon's if they have asked.


From that aspect, it looks like a great value, but when I look at the overall cost of the game, even $5 per episode is costly. This new release is episode 20, which brings the total to $100 and we're somewhere in the middle of the story. Would you pay $100 - 200 for a PC game? Maybe so, that's not for me to judge and have no issues with those that would find entertainment value in doing so. I think that $150 - 200 is too high for such things, but I'm cheap. I'm not really complaining in these posts, just wishing for some system that I felt more comfortable with. $40 - 50 for the finished product is a no-brainer to me for a good game, but the devs need a larger audience for that to work well. Maybe I'm just becoming my father in that he feels things should still cost what they did in the 1970s. I want 1990s pricing, dangit! :)
There is the option to wait until it's finished or grab the eventual Steam version.
 

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Well, I expected more from the update. As a result, it is interesting, but not enough.
The pussy of one of the main characters was printed out - and thanks for that. Even though I was counting on another one:(
looks like sex with charlotte will be this year's christmas present :unsure:
 

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in adult game industry auntie(denise) also another hottest and attractive charactor you ever see...:sneaky: and second favourite:p
 

Nemo56

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$40 per update X ?? updates = $14,876.00
It's not that bad.

2021 = 3 years x 12 months *40 = 1440 dollar.

Your 147600 / 40 = 37190 updates or 3099 years when you pay it every month...
He actually wrote 14876 :) But it would still mean almost 31 years.


I don't know if I should be happy that there's people with such loose wallets or that this enoucrages the whole supporter system, which I find to be the bane of gaming industry. I prefer the old fashioned way: Plan your game, make an estimate, then see if you can find the funds to work for that time. And after the plan was fullfilled, stop development, sell the game and start a new project.
 
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He actually wrote 14876 :) But it would still mean something almost 31 years.


I don't know if I should be happy that there's people with such loose wallets or that this enoucrages the whole supporter system, which I find to be the bane of gaming industry. I prefer the old fashioned way: Plan your game, make an estimate, then see if you can find the funds to work for that time. And after the plan was fullfilled, stop development, sell the game and start a new project.
Yeh my wrong, probably didn't drink enough cofee this morning to see straight...
 

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Monthly Patreon subscription is basically for those who want to try and help ensure the project has enough regular funding to keep going. RC has also provided (I think as pointed out above) that the game can be purchased on a per season basis, which is a really great deal. I think S1 was completely free and S2 was something like $10 or 12 USD with the gold package for integrated walkthrough. So like the first 14 episodes for less than $1 per...pretty damn good option. Season 3 (current one) has this episode right now plus one more to be created and then S3 will go up for full season sale as well.
 
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Jafo

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He actually wrote 14876 :) But it would still mean something almost 31 years.


I don't know if I should be happy that there's people with such loose wallets or that this enoucrages the whole supporter system, which I find to be the bane of gaming industry. I prefer the old fashioned way: Plan your game, make an estimate, then see if you can find the funds to work for that time. And after the plan was fullfilled, stop development, sell the game and start a new project.
I agree with you. But that will be an enormous investment. I think not much devs will be able to do it this way. I am Patreon on one game. But that dev works hard for us so he deserves the money.

And there will allways be devs who are slowing down the process. I love this game. But in this pace I am not willing to pay that amounts of money. So I will wait and see.
 
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Nothing against THIS game, I think Moochie is doing a good job.

Most of all it requires planning, not just investing.
I supported so far about 40 games on kickstarter. The problem I see with the supporter system is that the supporter attracts amateurs without any plan how to do things. When you go to a crowdfundung platform, you need to have at least some graphics, maybe a demo to show with gameplay. Of course also there you find people who in the end are not able (or willing) to deliver the product. But my personal opinion is, that the system filters out more of the worst people who may get discouraged when they see there is actualy work to be done, before people give them money. And people have a certain idea of production costs. One making a MMO for 5000$? Not gonna happen. Investing in that would be stupid.

There is some logic in putting a ongoing series without meaningful gamplay on a supporter platform and release episode. On the other hand it makes it really really complicated to include some complex puzzles that require elements from different parts of the game, these have to be planned ahead. It depends a lot on the type of game one is trying to create.
And of course when there are supportes, they (or some of them) keep demanding certain types of content and the maker has to please them in order not to lose them, put stuff in his game he never intended to and which most likely is to break immersion or ruin the gameplay. With a what-you-see-is-what-you-get system that danger is a lot less present.
 
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Nothing against THIS game, I think Moochie is doing a good job.

Most of all it requires planning, not just investing.
I supported so far about 40 games on kickstarter. The problem I see with the supporter system is that the supporter attracts amateurs without any plan how to do things. When you go to a crowdfundung platform, you need to have at least some graphics, maybe a demo to show with gameplay. Of course also there you find people who in the end are not able (or willing) to deliver the product. But my personal opinion is, that the system filters out more of the worst people who may get discouraged when they see there is actualy work to be done, before people give them money. And people have a certain idea of production costs. One making a MMO for 5000$? Not gonna happen. Investing in that would be stupid.

There is some logic in putting a ongoing series without meaningful gamplay on a supporter platform and release episode. On the other hand it makes it really really complicated to include some complex puzzles that require elements from different parts of the game, these have to be planned ahead. It depends a lot on the type of game one is trying to create.
And of course when there are supportes, they (or some of them) keep demanding certain types of content and the maker has to please them in order not to lose them, put stuff in his game he never intended to and which most likely is to break immersion or ruin the gameplay. With a what-you-see-is-what-you-get system that danger is a lot less present.

It is true. Because you will never get a game like A wife and a mother on this way. That is also a game I like but will never be sponsoring the dev. And I can name you more of that games. So yes pay when it is ready would be a good thing. In that way you will get instant access to the whole episode/game. But that will not happen.

Also there are new devs blinded by the money, not fully understanding what they are starting. The most saddest example is A.O.A. which I still miss. That game had a lot of potention. But is stopped sadly enough.

Well we keep on dreaming...... Hope tomorrow the update will be here.
 
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