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VN Ren'Py No More Money [v4.1.0 S4 Ep.1 GE] [RoyalCandy]

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NakedSingularity

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May 17, 2022
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So is doctor gonna be a virgin her whole life? :KEK:
Well that sucks. Why waste all that beauty? If she's not an LI why not make her ugly and skip all the extra effort in creating her? Hell I would have used some cheap stock model like a 60yo-grandma-with-saggy-tits that is about to retire to the free clinic if she was just going to be used in a single scene or 2.
 

ropershy

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That would be a great way to piss off one's fans if that was somehow the goal. Definitely not a good idea, as that would be the 21st century version of when Arthur Conan Doyle killed off Sherlock Holmes (when it was originally a newspaper serial in 1893) and nearly 1/3 of the newspaper subscribers canceled their subs as a result (I can only imagine the carnage if syndication was a thing at the time). Today it would arguably be worse, as the record of it would be relatively easy to find (no searching through old paper records in libraries necessary) and the bad rep would last far longer and die down far slower. So sure, make fans expect the MC to fuck his family but instead have him leave them instead and kill your AVN career in the process, by all means.
True. But hasn't the Dev been sort of Pissing off his fan base already? With how he keeps dragging alone the advancement of MC and the main girls? Every time we think "the next update he will be with her" there is another road block. I'm not sure the Dev cares if he pisses off his fan base. If he did there wouldn't be a road block right now.
 

BTLD

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True. But hasn't the Dev been sort of Pissing off his fan base already? With how he keeps dragging alone the advancement of MC and the main girls? Every time we think "the next update he will be with her" there is another road block. I'm not sure the Dev cares if he pisses off his fan base. If he did there wouldn't be a road block right now.
so... you and 2-3 posters are the fanbase?
 

Night Hacker

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True. But hasn't the Dev been sort of Pissing off his fan base already? With how he keeps dragging alone the advancement of MC and the main girls? Every time we think "the next update he will be with her" there is another road block. I'm not sure the Dev cares if he pisses off his fan base. If he did there wouldn't be a road block right now.
No, there's a story to be told, and he's telling it the way he wants to (because it's HIS story you see). You come off as being desperate to fap instead of just enjoying the story. Go watch some porn on pornhub while you wait or something. Some of us like a good story and appreciate the dev's work just as it is.
 

NakedSingularity

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No, there's a story to be told, and he's telling it the way he wants to (because it's HIS story you see). You come off as being desperate to fap instead of just enjoying the story. Go watch some porn on pornhub while you wait or something. Some of us like a good story and appreciate the dev's work just as it is.
I'm not one of them. I unsubbed back in July when I quit Patreon altogether. What got me to sub in the first place? The sis's assjob scene. Usually things escalate from there, not go backwards for no apparent reason or an explanation given, so apparently unsubbing was a good call, even if it was for different reasons at the time. No need for Pornhub either (video clips of real camera whores don't do much for me anyway these days), as there's still plenty worth subbing to on Subscribestar, no loli/incest/other-kink patches necessary.
 

Bad Buster

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Why don't you try to make a game, dedicate all your free time, stop doing other things, and see your work being leaked at launch, maybe that way, you can reflect a little.
I know this is a pirate site, but have you ever thought that if every developer, seeing their work being leaked, gave up on making the game? What would you download from there?
Man, it's not because of the leak, one hour or another it will leak. The problem is the time is too short, and many people stop supporting it if they can download it for free on launch day.
Last month I really wanted to play a game, I supported the developer, I barely finished downloading it, and it appeared here, so I ask you, why support? If I can get it for free on launch day?
And seeing the number of supporters decreasing, do you think it will encourage the developer? Have you ever taken a look at the "abandoned" tag on this site? You've never wondered why that plethora of abandoned games.
I also know that this is no reason to stop supporting, if you really like a game, and you can support it, do it. But many do not think so.
Actually, I am making a game and it is on this site. This is my "free" alt, so I can browse and post without it influencing my "business".

The hypocrisy happens when a member of over 5 years - ON A PIRATE SITE - complains about one specific leak for one specific game. It's not a fucking secret what happens here and my post above was just to highlight the hypocrisy and idiocy of making such a comment on this particular forum.

The devs of these games know exactly what happens here, and on dozens of other similar sites, that aggressively compete to be the first to leak a new game. As devs, we can either expend a lot of effort trying to control such leaks or we can accept that it will happen and use this site to our advantage. Did you even know that F95 buys games and subs to some Patreons just to get new releases and then post them here? Wanna talk about incest? The developer/pirate site symbiosis is a great example of an incestuous relationship, lol.

Do you have any concept of how much exposure a game can get on this forum? There's over 4 million registered members, and while I am sure a large percentage of those are not active, there's still several hundred thousand that are. When I released my demo, I did no advertising whatsoever. No development threads, no talking about it at all on here. It's just a project of mine so I can learn DAZ and Renpy and to kill some of my free time - and yet - the first day it was posted here, my simple demo was downloaded over 10,000 times and I got my first few patrons. That is the power of this place. And it's FREE.

My patrons are supporting me because they want to see me improve and succeed and therefore the product they get will be that much better. They don't support me (yet) because they can get the game a week early.

No dev in the world can 100% control piracy. Even multi-million dollar AAA titles get cracked and leaked eventually. And contrary to what many believe here, there are ways to ensure you control releases. They just take a lot of extra effort and time, which is seldom worth it, TBH. Devs can watermark releases to identify where the leak happened. They can serialize them for each patron. Lots of other techniques.

My point is, most patrons support the artist, not the product. And they won't just change their minds because the game got released on here. If they do, then they probably would have canceled their subs anyhow, as soon as they got the goods and then do it again on the next release.

The "Holy grail" for most devs here, is to get on a more mainstream platform, such as Steam. Then access is more controlled and revenues can skyrocket. Plus, purchasing games from those type of platforms, come with all sorts of extras and perks that you can't get from just downloading a pirated copy here.

As for the abandoned games .... I can say almost unequivocally, based on my experiences so far, as a dev, that probably not a single one of those games was abandoned because of any leaks on this, or any other game site. These sites GENERATE interest and revenue, not decrease it! 99% of those abandoned games, from what I have seen, were abandoned because of several other, more common reasons. The number one reason being that most of those start up devs thought they could just get DAZ and Renpy and whip up some simple VN in a week, than milk patrons for beer money every month. When they find out it actually takes hundreds (thousands!) of man-hours of work, to make a decent VN, they bail. There's also a ton of fly-by-night devs who whip up some simple, but desired niche fetish demo, get a few hundred patrons, then milk them for all it's worth until their tower of cards collapse and they ditch and run to their next scam.

Last month I really wanted to play a game, I supported the developer, I barely finished downloading it, and it appeared here, so I ask you, why support? If I can get it for free on launch day?
You contradict yourself here. One one hand, you are flaming me for calling BS on that guys complaint about the leak and than you throw this hypothetical out, saying why support a dev when you can get the game here free?

You support the dev because you want to support the dev. Period. People do what they want with their money. Some have surplus and they are fine with a small monthly amount supporting a dev for years. Others are no so free with their hard earned dollars. Supporters come and go all the time. You have noticed a pandemic recently, haven't you? And the skyrocketing inflation that rode along with it? Well, that trickles down to here.

I've spent hundreds of hours on my project, with almost no return yet on the effort. I have a few patrons giving me a small monthly amount (which I really appreciate considering all I have released is a demo so far) and I won't even touch their donations until I have enough to roll back into the project as something useful, like a hardware upgrade. Wanna know why I do it? First, because I wanted to learn how to do this thing... and I am progressing nicely there. Second, just because it feels nice to make something that people enjoy. My best donation so far was some random one time $25 dollar one where the person sent me a note saying "Thanks for making a game with a nice thicc LI (paraphrased)" - That stuff just feels good.

Anyhow, that's all have to say.. apologies to Royal Candy for the derail. I like this game and I haven't played it for a few updates so I am going to try and make time to play it this weekend.
 

Levo33

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Nov 8, 2017
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First time playing and its 10/10 but my god is it sloooooooooooooooooooooow by design so many side characters could be removed.
 

Levo33

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cooooooomsumers will fund anything even if they could pirate, stop with the post nut fighting
 

NakedSingularity

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May 17, 2022
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Why don't you try to make a game, dedicate all your free time, stop doing other things, and see your work being leaked at launch, maybe that way, you can reflect a little.
I know this is a pirate site, but have you ever thought that if every developer, seeing their work being leaked, gave up on making the game? What would you download from there?
I'm doing exactly that. The prologue and maybe the first ep will be here, for free, no strings attached because I don't give 2 shits about money if the roof over my head and food in the fridge is already paid for, especially when Daz assets will also be pirated and gotten for free. Why not every update here until completion? Because it probably won't be allowed here once the naked 5-10yos (NOT the fake 18 shit commonly found with lolis AVNs) enter the picture, and that's fine with me as I don't feel like censoring myself or dealing with patches. If my fans, if I even have any, still want subsequent updates they can get it on Subscribestar for $1. Why not free? Because they changed the rules to where content that's illegal in alot of places has to be put behind a paywall and $1 is the minimum. But I'm sure I'll find a way around that, like directly seeding it via torrent and just put a magnet link here and on SS. Believe it or not some people do things just for the enjoyment and bragging rights of it, fuck the money.
 

bardock8114

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Do you have any concept of how much exposure a game can get on this forum? There's over 4 million registered members, and while I am sure a large percentage of those are not active, there's still several hundred thousand that are. When I released my demo, I did no advertising whatsoever. No development threads, no talking about it at all on here. It's just a project of mine so I can learn DAZ and Renpy and to kill some of my free time - and yet - the first day it was posted here, my simple demo was downloaded over 10,000 times and I got my first few patrons. That is the power of this place. And it's FREE.
Yeah and first I only knew being a dik from a youtube video. Then I tried to find a download site and then I found multiple great lokking games. I support since Months now. There are some I am switching on and off for releases etc but overall this site is the perfect way to get exposure.

And people who actually use this site for their advantage also get more support IMO if the quality is good. Early access might be ok for some tiers like 10 and 15$ tier but if you go for 40$ and 5 days early you will always have someone who will leak it and therefore you lose potential patreons who would have supported the game on a lower tier and the same release date.

As I said two times already. The most important reason why people pirate games is time. If they can access to it on the spot with no conditions more people will buy the game instead.

But whats the best ratio for their game does need to find every dev out on his own. Some did it and some really struggle because the market is really overfilled with games and a lot of them are not even good IMO.
 

Grif1001

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The only lewd scene I got was the blow job from the girlfriend and the last scene was the nurse saw the picture on the mc phone and then it went to the main menu.Did I miss something or is this a bug?
After the blowjob, if you are on the Lauren route, MC gets a visit from her and has anal sex in the hospital bed and Bea walks in on him as he is coming in Lauren‘s ass. Then Lauren leaves and Bea crawls up on the same bed and has a date with MC. So, yeah, you must not be on the Lauren path, which means that you missed something.
 
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Cryptor

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sorry but this update have too much stupid dialogs, which player read all of this text ? i use TAB key and i´m finished in 5 Minutes and again no sex with Charlotte :-( But Renders looks very good
 
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stop23

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Why don't you try to make a game, dedicate all your free time, stop doing other things, and see your work being leaked at launch, maybe that way, you can reflect a little.
I know this is a pirate site, but have you ever thought that if every developer, seeing their work being leaked, gave up on making the game? What would you download from there?
Man, it's not because of the leak, one hour or another it will leak. The problem is the time is too short, and many people stop supporting it if they can download it for free on launch day.
Last month I really wanted to play a game, I supported the developer, I barely finished downloading it, and it appeared here, so I ask you, why support? If I can get it for free on launch day?
And seeing the number of supporters decreasing, do you think it will encourage the developer? Have you ever taken a look at the "abandoned" tag on this site? You've never wondered why that plethora of abandoned games.
I also know that this is no reason to stop supporting, if you really like a game, and you can support it, do it. But many do not think so.
idk if you know but on patreon site of this creator and this game its link to download a patreon version and its not blocked so everyone can downloaded it on 1st day :) even if they wasn't patreon and what i can see it's still not blocked
 
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After all those years I don't even know any more how I landed on this site, but I don't regret it all that much, found some amazing content. You just shouldn't overuse it :'D

I think this update was short for some but if you look at all the routes (especially harem) you will not be disappointed. The available scenes were great all in all. Thanks for the game and its predecessor <3
 
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Hellster

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Exactly. Everytime the MC gets close the Dev throws some wall up. With how the game is heading. It would seem MC is going to have to move away (disappear) in order to protect the girls he loves the most. Not saying that will happen. But might be the direction the Dev could take the game. Which would not only take the Main girls, but all the girls in the game out of the picture for now and several updates.
I think if that happened a lot of people would just abandon any hope with this game and just move on to something else, I know if I was a sub I probably would.
 
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