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VN Ren'Py No More Money [v4.1.1 S4 Ep.1 GE] [RoyalCandy]

4.20 star(s) 170 Votes

Rory Smith

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May 24, 2021
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Tired of 2 errors. One of them here;
Another one appearing when loading save files from previous version. Luckily both are ignorable
Android user here
 

bigbobby0940

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Jul 21, 2020
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Yeah its frustrating but incest should take time. I feel like incest stories that jump the gun to fucking aren't ever as good because it ruins the whole point - that incest is fucked up and taboo. If they start fucking right away without much back and forth doubt etc then thats no fun for me.

I already forgot their names because they weren't in this update but I hope you get a lot of scenes with the Blonde/Redhead in the meantime because you do need something to keep the audience going while the incest simmers. Also needs to bang the sisters new friend and have the sister walk in and process what at first she thinks is anger/disgust but then realizes is jealousy.

Love the mom though for once its an actual MILF rather than some 38FFF monstrosity. And I appreciate that the mom and daughter actually look alike lol.

At about 1 update a month I'm quite happy with how much content were getting.
So fucking dedicate the majority of updates to build up then.

Keep in mind, this developer has yet to fuck up like that, but I HAVE to be cynical when I see an update like this one we just got.

In general, developers always lose sight about what attracted people to their game in the first place. Just look at literally any incest game ever made and it's always the same. shit. First few updates the developer has his priority straight, then somewhere down the line he out of fucking nowhere decides to focus on some generic ass bitches that nobody gives two shits about.

The reason has to be that most developers simply don't know how to maintain the build up and "incestual tension". They know the footnotes (son notices his mom is hot, she gets drunk in an update blah blah blah), you know, the generic parts, but nobody knows how to actually close it out.

That's how you end with A Wife and a Mother for example, that developer has literally hidden from any meaningful incest content for years now because the truth is, he doesn't know what to do.

Developers should just avoid incest if they're gonna go down this route. Because frankly, nothing is worse than a game having potential and then just getting abandoned before the money shot is ever actually achieved. It's why I respect ICSTOR even though he fucked Mifly City up.

Dude knows he can't maintain realistic build up so he just says fuck it, makes some hot ass models and has you fucking them in a few updates. Same goes for Being a Dik, dude could have easily went the incest route but he didn't and his game is probably the best porn game on this entire website because of it.

Not saying this developer is gonna fuck it up, but until I see a single developer reach that end point, i'm gonna remain skeptical
 

Garvelt

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Aug 26, 2020
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So fucking dedicate the majority of updates to build up then.

Keep in mind, this developer has yet to fuck up like that, but I HAVE to be cynical when I see an update like this one we just got.

In general, developers always lose sight about what attracted people to their game in the first place. Just look at literally any incest game ever made and it's always the same. shit. First few updates the developer has his priority straight, then somewhere down the line he out of fucking nowhere decides to focus on some generic ass bitches that nobody gives two shits about.

The reason has to be that most developers simply don't know how to maintain the build up and "incestual tension". They know the footnotes (son notices his mom is hot, she gets drunk in an update blah blah blah), you know, the generic parts, but nobody knows how to actually close it out.

That's how you end with A Wife and a Mother for example, that developer has literally hidden from any meaningful incest content for years now because the truth is, he doesn't know what to do.

Developers should just avoid incest if they're gonna go down this route. Because frankly, nothing is worse than a game having potential and then just getting abandoned before the money shot is ever actually achieved. It's why I respect ICSTOR even though he fucked Mifly City up.

Dude knows he can't maintain realistic build up so he just says fuck it, makes some hot ass models and has you fucking them in a few updates. Same goes for Being a Dik, dude could have easily went the incest route but he didn't and his game is probably the best porn game on this entire website because of it.

Not saying this developer is gonna fuck it up, but until I see a single developer reach that end point, i'm gonna remain skeptical
This is not exclusively an incest game though so why should all the focus be on the mom and sis exactly? Not everyone is into incest and there's going to be players who will never go for them, but instead focus on other girls. Just because you don't like those 'generic ass bitches' as you put it, doesn't mean others won't. Some people will focus on incest, some people will stay with Emma or go for one of the other girls, and some people will fuck everything that moves and that's OK as well. It's exactly the same as it was in No More Secrets, which handled both incest and other LI's pretty well as far as I remember.
 

bamachine

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Nov 17, 2020
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Shouldn't we have seen Tris in a maid outfit, at the end of that final montage?

Also, the MC is kinda a dick, IMO, after hearing Emma's story. She should not be subjected to a cheating ass dirtbag like him.
 

royalcandy

No More Money
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Jun 8, 2018
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So fucking dedicate the majority of updates to build up then.

Keep in mind, this developer has yet to fuck up like that, but I HAVE to be cynical when I see an update like this one we just got.

In general, developers always lose sight about what attracted people to their game in the first place. Just look at literally any incest game ever made and it's always the same. shit. First few updates the developer has his priority straight, then somewhere down the line he out of fucking nowhere decides to focus on some generic ass bitches that nobody gives two shits about.

The reason has to be that most developers simply don't know how to maintain the build up and "incestual tension". They know the footnotes (son notices his mom is hot, she gets drunk in an update blah blah blah), you know, the generic parts, but nobody knows how to actually close it out.

That's how you end with A Wife and a Mother for example, that developer has literally hidden from any meaningful incest content for years now because the truth is, he doesn't know what to do.

Developers should just avoid incest if they're gonna go down this route. Because frankly, nothing is worse than a game having potential and then just getting abandoned before the money shot is ever actually achieved. It's why I respect ICSTOR even though he fucked Mifly City up.

Dude knows he can't maintain realistic build up so he just says fuck it, makes some hot ass models and has you fucking them in a few updates. Same goes for Being a Dik, dude could have easily went the incest route but he didn't and his game is probably the best porn game on this entire website because of it.

Not saying this developer is gonna fuck it up, but until I see a single developer reach that end point, i'm gonna remain skeptical
My game is not about a guy who's only purpose in life is to fuck every girl he encounters. Just like I mentioned previously with this game I'm telling a story.

The game is about a guy who is going to support his family because his father can no longer do that. In doing so he'll open the Pandora Box, but beside the way he is going to earn money to support his family he's going to get closer to people family or not.

The focus for this game is not to fuck as soon as possible and as much as possible, but to tell a story about a family and build relationships and once the relationships are built the sex will come. I'm not going to focus 100% on families because that's not how life is. In life you have a job, you have friends, you people that you hate and so on.

Choices matter and there will be good/bad consequences.

Speaking of incest. No matter how much content I add with Charlotte/Tris there is no reasonable way to make them have sex in one week. They had a whole life where they didn't do anything and now you expect them to accept the idea of having sex just like that. They need to build up a relationship, build "incestual tension", let the time pass.

For example:
- Charlotte feels horny when her son is giving her massage, but she cannot say that, she cannot accept it just as easily. She's still his mother. It's not natural for her to feel horny.
- Tris wants a guy just like the MC, because in her mind he's not on the list. It's not normal for her to want him.
So we have to break this walls, but if we rush it then we break the story.
 

ESM13

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That meeting with Emma was so damn short man , she is his girlfriend and in whole six updates we see her like just 3 or 4 times even if you are telling a story he should have at least a good relation so he don't need to cheat
 
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xvertion121

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My game is not about a guy who's only purpose in life is to fuck every girl he encounters. Just like I mentioned previously with this game I'm telling a story.

The game is about a guy who is going to support his family because his father can no longer do that. In doing so he'll open the Pandora Box, but beside the way he is going to earn money to support his family he's going to get closer to people family or not.

The focus for this game is not to fuck as soon as possible and as much as possible, but to tell a story about a family and build relationships and once the relationships are built the sex will come. I'm not going to focus 100% on families because that's not how life is. In life you have a job, you have friends, you people that you hate and so on.

Choices matter and there will be good/bad consequences.

Speaking of incest. No matter how much content I add with Charlotte/Tris there is no reasonable way to make them have sex in one week. They had a whole life where they didn't do anything and now you expect them to accept the idea of having sex just like that. They need to build up a relationship, build "incestual tension", let the time pass.

For example:
- Charlotte feels horny when her son is giving her massage, but she cannot say that, she cannot accept it just as easily. She's still his mother. It's not natural for her to feel horny.
- Tris wants a guy just like the MC, because in her mind he's not on the list. It's not normal for her to want him.
So we have to break this walls, but if we rush it then we break the story.
Wow dev since you are reading the thread here is few words.

l liked your story telling and i think no more secret is the only adult game where i laughed moment to moment. But i really didn't get what u did with Jeane. She is not gonna have relation with MC then suddenly MC is fucking her in the office. Like the relation with her just suddenly just took weird turn.

Who knows its just may be me. But i think the best chance for them having sex was the night after the party where they spend the night on hotel. But Jeane rejected him there and after that having sex in office like it was nothing. That was my favorite character and i was playing the game just for her. I mean at the end of the day its a adult game and most ppl doesn't care about story but u built a good one on that game (Even though i was so disappointed on that part).

Anyway good luck with your development on this one.
 

Loxyas

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Since the question is always asked...

incest patch for all versions:
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royalcandy

No More Money
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Jun 8, 2018
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Wow dev since you are reading the thread here is few words.

l liked your story telling and i think no more secret is the only adult game where i laughed moment to moment. But i really didn't get what u did with Jeane. She is not gonna have relation with MC then suddenly MC is fucking her in the office. Like the relation with her just suddenly just took weird turn.

Who knows its just may be me. But i think the best chance for them having sex was the night after the party where they spend the night on hotel. But Jeane rejected him there and after that having sex in office like it was nothing. That was my favorite character and i was playing the game just for her. I mean at the end of the day its a adult game and most ppl doesn't care about story but u built a good one on that game (Even though i was so disappointed on that part).

Anyway good luck with your development on this one.
it’s very hard for me to admit, but I messed things up with No More Secrets.
When I look back I see a lot of things that I would change, but yeah, I promise to do this game better.
 

zeph19

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This is not exclusively an incest game though so why should all the focus be on the mom and sis exactly?
Because if you look at the banner, that's clearly the main selling point of this game. Doesn't mean all the focus should be on them, obviously. I like the blonde girl. Though things are going slow on her end, too. It's still all within reason, imo.

Speaking of incest. No matter how much content I add with Charlotte/Tris there is no reasonable way to make them have sex in one week. They had a whole life where they didn't do anything and now you expect them to accept the idea of having sex just like that. They need to build up a relationship, build "incestual tension", let the time pass.
Imo, it's clever and good you added the time skip at the end of this update. This way, in my mind at least, that's a lot of time in which their relationships will have progressed and their intentions should be clearer.

Take your time, tell your story. Make it believable and it'll turn out as a better product in the end, no doubt.
 
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