VN Ren'Py No More Money [v4.2.0 S4 Ep.2 GE] [RoyalCandy]

[Myrroddin]

I don't expect this to happen, but what would set No More Money apart from other games is if the MC hooked up with Tris and/or Charlotte and the game continued. Most games that involve family members end rather quickly, even abruptly, after those moments.

The Emma thing did come out of nowhere, I'll agree, although I thought the "motorcycle accident" came out of nowhere, so what do I know. At least the "motorcycle accident" was explained during the scenes. Katrina is terrifying! Hot as hell, but just as scary. I played the real estate path; perhaps the club path has more explanation. Don't spoil it for me.

Yeah, I also agree that Lisa will bail, and quickly, once she finds out. On the other hand, I think Tris and Charlotte would be eventually okay with the MC dating both of them. Not at first, but eventually. Something about the "word association" game makes me think Tris and Charlotte would be cool with each other.

About the minigames, I am making progress with those, but at this point, it's more fluke than memory. If I don't get 1-2 matched card sets within the first 10 seconds, I reset. I tried finding the code to edit the timer, but couldn't find anything, and the one thing I tried crashed the game. My suggestion would be to add 5-10 seconds on top of the base timer for each level after the first. Should anyone know how and where to make that edit, that would be a welcome, easy, fix.

Level one: 25 seconds, level two: 25 + 5 seconds, level three: 25 + 10 seconds, etc and so on. I think the base time is 25 seconds. Whatever it is, just add base time + (level - 1) * 5 seconds or base time + (level - 1) * 10 seconds to the code.

 

[Raziel_8]

I don't expect this to happen, but what would set No More Money apart from other games is if the MC hooked up with Tris and/or Charlotte and the game continued. Most games that involve family members end rather quickly, even abruptly, after those moments.

Couldn't agree more, that's what i want to see, them being in a actual in a relationship and not as in other games, you get 2 or 3 scenes and the game is finished.

 

[Hahn1900]

Ah and besides... for the Tris-selfie at the end of the episode.. do you guys really think Bea will now realise whats going on between them? Tris and the MC arent even sure themselfes... of course there will be some cheap excuse for now... Bea even ate some chocolate and will have some durg experience now.

There is no way at this point of the game that Bea will "know" about the feelings Tris has. Its just for the sake of a cliffhanger and there will be some cheap solution to let things go on like they are for a little while longer.

 

[Grif1001]

Ok, so let me get this straight, so just cos us "freeloaders" as you call us, don't subscribe to THIS game (not that you know how many people here ARE actually subscribers), we're not allowed to have an opinion? "Freeloader" or not doesn't mean that any game we play is off limits from having an opinion, subscriber or not.
I am a subscriber to many developers/games (not this one however, cos I can't afford to subscribe to every game I like), so don't play this "stay in your lane" bullshit, everyone is entitled to have an opinion on a game, whether you like it or not.

Ok, yes, maybe he was a bit harsh in the way he phrased things, but come on, theres a lot of us here who feel similar.

Honestly though, I'm not so sure that the issue was with people having an opinion. at least it isnt that for me.
From my viewpoint, it's fine to have an opinion and engage in thoughtful banter with others who's view differs.
If you have a well constructed argument, I can totally appreciate your point even If I don't completely agree with it. Differences in who we are make us more or less tollerent of things, so even if I dont feel what you feel, if you explaine it well, I can alwys sympathise with your view and be like "cool, I see that."
So yeah, post a well thought out review of this update with both pro's and cons, and I doubt anyone would give you any beef about it either way. They might ask follow up questions, but most likely, if your comment was smart and tateful, then you'd just get some likes, maybe some laughs, and maybe even a few facepalms. and thats all cool.

However, when there is post after post about " boo hoo, we didn't get to screw his mom yet"... that's not a convincing argument, its just tantrum throwing. This is suppost to be an ADULT site. Everyone on here should be grown, and at the very least out of diapers.

Why then, does it seem that there are such a plethera of toddlers laying on the floor kicking and screaming over wanting to suck on mommy's tit?

The people that have posted well thought out comments stating exactly what they didn't enjoy about this update, I for one, appreciated what they had to say. I didn't agree with all of it, but I was like, ok, I get it.

but there are so many that are just here to bitch, its seriously exhausting.

"Still no action with Triss, I'm deleting this and never comming back." Might as well be the spoiled sport who says "I'll just take my ball and go home."

Ok. Fine. We don't care! We'll just play with our own balls.
You don't have to tell us you're leaving, just go.
No one is gonna miss you.
If your gonna stop playing, then why do we have to deal with all your bitching on this thread?

All the whining is literally just so damn tiresome sometimes.

 

[Myrroddin]

This sounds bizarre, even to me: given the MC has a couple of options to repair his relationship with Dad, that has to effect the outcomes for both Charlotte and Tris. Repairing the relationship with Dad could also open more story options after hooking up with Charlotte and Tris.

How would they function as a family
Would Charlotte continue with the MC if Dad's attitude and lifestyle improve
What would happen to the family if Charlotte or Tris got pregnant
Does Charlotte divorce Dad or stay with him
Is Tris' relationship with Dad sour like Charlotte's
Are Charlotte and Tris okay with the family breaking apart because they love the MC
Where does the money and income come from if the MC leaves his job

Those are just a few of the questions I could see the story extending to after the MC hooks up with Charlotte and Tris. And that doesn't even include the other girls and what they think. So many possiblities!

 

[Hellster]

Ok, yes, maybe he was a bit harsh in the way he phrased things, but come on, theres a lot of us here who feel similar.

Honestly though, I'm not so sure that the issue was with people having an opinion. at least it isnt that for me.
From my viewpoint, it's fine to have an opinion and engage in thoughtful banter with others who's view differs.
If you have a well constructed argument, I can totally appreciate your point even If I don't completely agree with it. Differences in who we are make us more or less tollerent of things, so even if I dont feel what you feel, if you explaine it well, I can alwys sympathise with your view and be like "cool, I see that."
So yeah, post a well thought out review of this update with both pro's and cons, and I doubt anyone would give you any beef about it either way. They might ask follow up questions, but most likely, if your comment was smart and tateful, then you'd just get some likes, maybe some laughs, and maybe even a few facepalms. and thats all cool.

However, when there is post after post about " boo hoo, we didn't get to screw his mom yet"... that's not a convincing argument, its just tantrum throwing. This is suppost to be an ADULT site. Everyone on here should be grown, and at the very least out of diapers.

Why then, does it seem that there are such a plethera of toddlers laying on the floor kicking and screaming over wanting to suck on mommy's tit?

The people that have posted well thought out comments stating exactly what they didn't enjoy about this update, I for one, appreciated what they had to say. I didn't agree with all of it, but I was like, ok, I get it.

but there are so many that are just here to bitch, its seriously exhausting.

"Still no action with Triss, I'm deleting this and never comming back." Might as well be the spoiled sport who says "I'll just take my ball and go home."

Ok. Fine. We don't care! We'll just play with our own balls.
You don't have to tell us you're leaving, just go.
No one is gonna miss you.
If your gonna stop playing, then why do we have to deal with all your bitching on this thread?

All the whining is literally just so damn tiresome sometimes.

Fair enough, like i've said in my comments, the main thing I am concerned about is it getting close to the end before anything happens with them, then the game ends with very little relationship type content with them, I mean let's face it, that's what most people (including myself) are waiting for.
Also, considering how far along the game is in development, i'm hoping he will keep the progress with them moving forward, as at times it feels like it stalls or moves backwards.

 

[Grif1001]

This sounds bizarre, even to me: given the MC has a couple of options to repair his relationship with Dad, that has to effect the outcomes for both Charlotte and Tris. Repairing the relationship with Dad could also open more story options after hooking up with Charlotte and Tris.

How would they function as a family
Would Charlotte continue with the MC if Dad's attitude and lifestyle improve
What would happen to the family if Charlotte or Tris got pregnant
Does Charlotte divorce Dad or stay with him
Is Tris' relationship with Dad sour like Charlotte's
Are Charlotte and Tris okay with the family breaking apart because they love the MC
Where does the money and income come from if the MC leaves his job

Those are just a few of the questions I could see the story extending to after the MC hooks up with Charlotte and Tris. And that doesn't even include the other girls and what they think. So many possiblities!

Personally, Im still hoping to discover that Dad is working for/with Kat (yes, she would hate that I called her that) I would like to see things with her come to a climax when she abducts MC again, but this time its not just cops, the feds are also involved in the sting opperation against her and MC is wearing a tracker they supplied. She takes him to the warehouse again, which turns out to be the same one she runs the human trafficing opperation out of, and the feds swarm the place, a firefight ensues and Kat uses MC as a human shield/hostage. Dad is there because he works for her and when she gets clear of the building, dad throws himself in between her and MC taking the killing strike that was ment for the MC. Feds shoot Kats car which flips and explodes as she is trying to escape. Kat doesn't die in the explosion, but ends up a burn scared double amputee doing 60 years in federal prison. Dad dies in MC's arms and Dads last words are, "Your the man of the house now son. Take care of your mom and sister." So he does... In every possable meaning of the phrase...

 

[Myrroddin]

Grif1001 Damn, m'man! You want to Michael Bay this game!? I am with you in thinking Dad works for Kat (she'll kill me too). Hopefully not, as that would be cliché but I would still enjoy the game.

 

[Grif1001]

Fair enough, like i've said in my comments, the main thing I am concerned about is it getting close to the end before anything happens with them, then the game ends with very little relationship type content with them, I mean let's face it, that's what most people (including myself) are waiting for.
Also, considering how far along the game is in development, i'm hoping he will keep the progress with them moving forward, as at times it feels like it stalls or moves backwards.

yeah, I get that. unfortunantly there are few games that seem to have a good handle on the "family relationship" either it starts so easily that the whole family must be super loose sluts, or it takes forever and then ok, you finally got them and everyone boned happily ever after, the end.
Personally, I am one who thinks that some backward movement is actually required when taboos are crossed. Its a real life reaction to crossing a line you thought you wouldnt cross, you immediantly pull back further from the line out of fear that you will cross it again. sometimes reasurances need to be made. people have to grow accustomed to the new normal.
but I also totally agree with you and hope that we don't get a one and done ending either.

 

[Night Hacker]

Little buggy... didnt wrote the bugs down (cause they were'nt major)

Do you see the ironies in this? It's "didn't" not "didnt", and "write" not "wrote" as well as "weren't" not "were'nt". Talk about bugs!

 

[Grif1001]

Do you see the ironies in this? It's "didn't" not "didnt", and "write" not "wrote" as well as "weren't" not "were'nt". Talk about bugs!

It's also "because" not "cause"

 

[girlfairdev]

but there are so many that are just here to bitch, its seriously exhausting.

"Still no action with Triss, I'm deleting this and never comming back." Might as well be the spoiled sport who says "I'll just take my ball and go home."

Precisely. Much better said. I stand by my points, but apologize for the tirade.

 

[fredricojames]

Ok, yes, maybe he was a bit harsh in the way he phrased things, but come on, theres a lot of us here who feel similar.

Honestly though, I'm not so sure that the issue was with people having an opinion. at least it isnt that for me.
From my viewpoint, it's fine to have an opinion and engage in thoughtful banter with others who's view differs.
If you have a well constructed argument, I can totally appreciate your point even If I don't completely agree with it. Differences in who we are make us more or less tollerent of things, so even if I dont feel what you feel, if you explaine it well, I can alwys sympathise with your view and be like "cool, I see that."
So yeah, post a well thought out review of this update with both pro's and cons, and I doubt anyone would give you any beef about it either way. They might ask follow up questions, but most likely, if your comment was smart and tateful, then you'd just get some likes, maybe some laughs, and maybe even a few facepalms. and thats all cool.

However, when there is post after post about " boo hoo, we didn't get to screw his mom yet"... that's not a convincing argument, its just tantrum throwing. This is suppost to be an ADULT site. Everyone on here should be grown, and at the very least out of diapers.

Why then, does it seem that there are such a plethera of toddlers laying on the floor kicking and screaming over wanting to suck on mommy's tit?

The people that have posted well thought out comments stating exactly what they didn't enjoy about this update, I for one, appreciated what they had to say. I didn't agree with all of it, but I was like, ok, I get it.

but there are so many that are just here to bitch, its seriously exhausting.

"Still no action with Triss, I'm deleting this and never comming back." Might as well be the spoiled sport who says "I'll just take my ball and go home."

Ok. Fine. We don't care! We'll just play with our own balls.
You don't have to tell us you're leaving, just go.
No one is gonna miss you.
If your gonna stop playing, then why do we have to deal with all your bitching on this thread?

All the whining is literally just so damn tiresome sometimes.

I agree. I would like to see people say what they think about the game without getting emotional about it in the post. I think it is good to see a bunch of the same comment though as that is how you know the large majority of the community is feeling a certain way about the direction of your game.

My thought is that people get messed up in their timeline because they play each update months apart from each other. This causes them to feel the action is super slow. But if they waited until the game was finished and played it all at once, they would not feel that way. You would get to the content you want in the first night of playing in most games. That is why I tend to stick with VN games.

So I do feel that the Devs have to take some comments with that knowledge in mind.

I am dissapointed that this update didn't have any content for me. But I know that I will not be dissapointed when the game is finished, unless it doesn't get finished.

 

[girlfairdev]

Just saying, but this is the devs 3rd game.
Rejected No More, is on hold
No More Secrets, is finished, imo it also did a better job with the family path progression, especialy the sister

And yes the dev is pretty solid with his update schedule, yes good characters and enough action. As for the complains they were pretty much only about two things, the change of the girlfriend and the progression with the family which feels very artificial stalled/drawn out.
That incest is slow burn is also accepted by most, so having a couple of good side characters is nice. But lets be real, if you make an incest game players want incest content, shocking I know and no matter the amount of other LI's or sex scenes with them will change that.

My mistake. Didn't know those previous games were his. I do get your point about "main interest". I will not try to say I won't be interested in seeing how that part of the story line plays out myself. However there are plenty of other things happening to make up for the fact that hasn't happened yet, and builds the drama that (hopefully) will ultimately lead to it. It's a story in progress. You read a story chapter by chapter and wait for the good parts. I think frankly that devs need to steel themselves a bit from the constant criticism from people sighting how they think the story should go, and stay the course with their writing. It's their story, after all. Let it play out. Again, I'm a former script writer, I'm digging some of these story lines, and really laughing my tail off at some of the others. And yes, there are a number of "WTF" story lines out there too. Everyone has a right to their opinion, but some of the things that are said have no constructive purpose than to be nasty, personal even. That kind of criticism is useful for.... who? If something sours you so... why stay? Move to a game genre that suits your taste. I have seen the "changing direction to suit certain fans" strategy really stink up the writing on a couple of games out there. I think DMD is one of them for example. I've read many books three or four times. I've quit reading many others after a chapter or two. Same with shows, movies, and now interactive games like these.

 

[Myrroddin]

girlfairdev I started DMD over a year, maybe two years ago, then life threw me a handful of curveballs, and never returned to the game. This is off-topic for NMM, and if that's a no-go, please ignore my post, or tell me to delete it. I am wondering what DMD did in its story that changed direction? Yes, you can give me spoilers.

 

[girlfairdev]

Yeah, wrong place here, but go to the forum there and read the last 8 pages, you'll get the idea.

 

[Dogorti]

I really liked this game until recently,but i feel like the dialogue has gotten worse. Emma was prolly the best written characters but now she's suddenly ok with everything,even encouraging mc to sleep with others,and constantly reassure mc that she only loves him and only wants to fuck him,like ok i got it the 1st time. she exists only to love the mc now and there is nothing interesting about her anymore. idk how many updates are left,and I think this was a bit too slow burn. I get mom and sis are the main prize and you have to dangle that carrot,but what you end up with is very little time when those characters are actually together and that's something most of us want.Like it's fine to show the journey but I want to stay at the destination a little.
What I will say is that I have to defend the dev when it comes to the update times bc they were really consistent up until the last one,and for many devs this would still be a normal time frame between updates. He's def not a milker.
I'm not saying I'm giving up on it,but It's not getting better,sadly,apart from the renders and animations.
If all the girls are so in love and/or horny for mc,this could've been a full harem,so we know the porn logic just generally applies,or make it a single path game where choices truly matter and characters have more depth to them. I would've liked it more than this half measure.

I think it's clear that emma has daddy issues, abandonment problems and not very high self-esteem if she lets the mc hang out with others it's because she doesn't want to lose him or so I think

 

[mr.AwesomeGameTaste]

I think it's clear that emma has daddy issues, abandonment problems and not very high self-esteem if she lets the mc hang out with others it's because she doesn't want to lose him or so I think

well,yeah,but she was self aware and pretty clear about that,during the scene on the beach. I know people with similar issues and they hate the idea of being abandoned and hurt,but even they wouldn't let that slide if they saw it. It would make perfect sense for her to be oblivious to his cheating,lying to herself,to hang to the illusion that he's not betraying her. I knew a girl who chose to stop being friends with people who told her about her bf cheating rather than believing them. But when she sees it with her own eyes,the damage is already done.And sure,I guess there are some people with severe mental issues who would react like Emma did and you can choose to explain it like that... But I guess I had higher expectations from her character.
Also there is no way,even if we accept that emma's problems are this big,that this will be a healthy relationship,bc that would mean Emma doesn't get better and mc makes no effort to help her or maybe even consciously or sub consciously keeps her in that state. It's almost harley x joker at that point. Bc the odds of someone with multiple mental issues allowing her bf to fuck others to avoid being abandoned and later becoming legit fine with polyamory in normal and healthy way is non existent.
And sure,this is fiction,a porn game.It can happen HERE.But If this is what this is then fine,glad others like it,but I initially had higher hopes.

 

[Dogorti]

well,yeah,but she was self aware and pretty clear about that,during the scene on the beach. I know people with similar issues and they hate the idea of being abandoned and hurt,but even they wouldn't let that slide if they saw it. It would make perfect sense for her to be oblivious to his cheating,lying to herself,to hang to the illusion that he's not betraying her. I knew a girl who chose to stop being friends with people who told her about her bf cheating rather than believing them. But when she sees it with her own eyes,the damage is already done.And sure,I guess there are some people with severe mental issues who would react like Emma did and you can choose to explain it like that... But I guess I had higher expectations from her character.
Also there is no way,even if we accept that emma's problems are this big,that this will be a healthy relationship,bc that would mean Emma doesn't get better and mc makes no effort to help her or maybe even consciously or sub consciously keeps her in that state. It's almost harley x joker at that point. Bc the odds of someone with multiple mental issues allowing her bf to fuck others to avoid being abandoned and later becoming legit fine with polyamory in normal and healthy way is non existent.
And sure,this is fiction,a porn game.It can happen HERE.But If this is what this is then fine,glad others like it,but I initially had higher hopes.

of course, I think it's not healthy at all but I don't think it's something that has already been resolved I think there will be a little more drama with emma tbh

 

[Myrroddin]

girlfairdev Thank you.