VN Ren'Py No More Money [v4.2.0 S4 Ep.2 GE] [RoyalCandy]

[KaosKally]

I haven't played this game yet despite having it on backlog for some years now and i agree it deserves an ending. But after reading all that, feels wrong to ask for an ending considering it can and probably will put him in a way worse mental state. Now I am saying this based on what I read, but i know how that feels, to be "forced" to complete something that would worsen your health.

 

[NoX Productions]

Another great game from this dev dropped pretty much, i don't think this dev ever finished an actual game except No More Secrets and IMO this was his best one by far, its really sad to see it being put on hold and that will likely be abandoned in the future

 

[fpsgamer]

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Hey everyone,

I've been putting off writing this post for a while, but after seeing all your messages, I felt like it was time to share what's been going on. As you know, I've always tried to be upfront with you, but given what I do for a living, I've kept my personal life separate from this space. However, to explain where I'm at now, I'm going to have to open up a bit more than usual.

When I started this page back in 2018, I was a single guy who never imagined having a serious relationship or a family. But a lot has changed since then—I started a family and now have two kids, who are honestly the light of my life. But they're also the reason I've stepped away.

For a while now, I've been struggling with a kind of depression. I couldn't look my children in the eye knowing what my games promote. I felt ashamed, even disgusted with myself. What I thought was my “dream job” had turned into something I hated. That's why I decided to quit.

In the past few months, I've been trying to pivot to making SFW games. But since I've been doing this for so long, my mind kept going back to ideas that were... well, sexual. That's what I've always been good at. I thought I could finish No More Money, start something new, and maybe ask you guys how you'd feel about removing a certain taboo element that shows up in all my games. But honestly, I can't do it anymore.

I can't continue with No More Money. It's been breaking me to keep working on it, and I just can't do it anymore. I know you guys enjoy these games, and there's nothing wrong with that, but for me, it's personal. I'm not really a writer. I draw inspiration from real people in my life. Most of the characters you love from No More Secrets and No More Money were inspired by ex-girlfriends, friends, people I know, so it's hard for me to separate those feelings when I'm writing. I didn't value family before, so making taboo games was easy before, but I can't do that anymore.

So, I need to know where you all stand. I know walking away from another game is going to hurt my reputation, and I'm ready to face the consequences of that. But if I were to start No More Homework without the “household” taboo, would you still be interested in the game? I really need to know what kind of adult visual novels you're into now and how you feel about this shift.

I've included a few possible answers. Based on your responses, I'll decide what I'll do in the future.

Thanks for understanding and I apologize for everything.

Even though it doesn't bode well for this game in particular, I can understand what he is saying. It's different to make these theme games when one is young buck(we are more sex oriented at that age) and when you get older with family and have so much more emotional attachment with family it makes you completely different person.
That being said I think RC needs more time to seperate work theme and personal life. Right now he is getting it mixed, and hence the conflicting thoughts. There is no solution but time.
Time will help make him seperate fiction and reality.
On other hand, what do I know I'm still on young buck stage of my life. Maybe it is different and as conflicting as RC says.
I appreciate the his total honestly and prompt communication. It's heck a lot better to know what really is going to be future of this game and not be uncertain if it will be continued or not.
RC can make other games, something not involving conflicting taboo topics. There is still a lot of unexplored genre in Adult Visual novel. I'm sure he can succeed in that as well.

 

[Manshino]

I have zero interest in his games if there are no incest. Pretty sure most people play for Charlotte and Tris.

I have zero interest in what relationship exists between MC and Charlotte and Tris. Teacher and cheerleader? I'm good. Neighbor and classmate? Perfect. Boss and collegue? Okay for me. Colonel and private? Nice army! The incest is the very last quality of this game, IMHO.

 

[\\_Tremolo_//]

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Hey everyone,

I've been putting off writing this post for a while, but after seeing all your messages, I felt like it was time to share what's been going on. As you know, I've always tried to be upfront with you, but given what I do for a living, I've kept my personal life separate from this space. However, to explain where I'm at now, I'm going to have to open up a bit more than usual.

When I started this page back in 2018, I was a single guy who never imagined having a serious relationship or a family. But a lot has changed since then—I started a family and now have two kids, who are honestly the light of my life. But they're also the reason I've stepped away.

For a while now, I've been struggling with a kind of depression. I couldn't look my children in the eye knowing what my games promote. I felt ashamed, even disgusted with myself. What I thought was my “dream job” had turned into something I hated. That's why I decided to quit.

In the past few months, I've been trying to pivot to making SFW games. But since I've been doing this for so long, my mind kept going back to ideas that were... well, sexual. That's what I've always been good at. I thought I could finish No More Money, start something new, and maybe ask you guys how you'd feel about removing a certain taboo element that shows up in all my games. But honestly, I can't do it anymore.

I can't continue with No More Money. It's been breaking me to keep working on it, and I just can't do it anymore. I know you guys enjoy these games, and there's nothing wrong with that, but for me, it's personal. I'm not really a writer. I draw inspiration from real people in my life. Most of the characters you love from No More Secrets and No More Money were inspired by ex-girlfriends, friends, people I know, so it's hard for me to separate those feelings when I'm writing. I didn't value family before, so making taboo games was easy before, but I can't do that anymore.

So, I need to know where you all stand. I know walking away from another game is going to hurt my reputation, and I'm ready to face the consequences of that. But if I were to start No More Homework without the “household” taboo, would you still be interested in the game? I really need to know what kind of adult visual novels you're into now and how you feel about this shift.

I've included a few possible answers. Based on your responses, I'll decide what I'll do in the future.

Thanks for understanding and I apologize for everything.

GG boyz and gals

 

[Anteron]

Anyone who would patron a dev with even 1 abandoned game should get evaluated. More than 1 anyone patroning should get a 72 hour hold before any money goes in.

 

[NoX Productions]

I mean, if he were to make something like Summer's Gone for example down the line where there is nudity but no sex at all and its focused on story i would be down for that. That said, i would still love to see this game finished at some point because its his best game IMO

 

[LSC82]

2 things, a game without a family side, sure, the relationship with Triss is great kink or no kink.
"No More Homework" sounds like a guy who finished college, just have him move away from home and meet new girls at work, neighbors.

But i also think it would be better if he delivered an ending here, even if rushed/condensed.

 

[devonY7]

 

[MagicMan753]

This is disappointing. I love No More Money, and we were so close to the ending. Just knowing we won't get to see the ending of Tris, Charlotte, and all the other characters is just sad. Knowing all these characters will forever be in limbo, is one of the biggest disappointments.

I would be fine if he doesn't want to make incest in future games if that is what he wants, but knowing this game will never get an ending, is just sad. All I wanted is to see Tris happy at the end, but alas that day will never come now.

Just very sad and disappointing.

 

[Antera]

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Hey everyone,

I've been putting off writing this post for a while, but after seeing all your messages, I felt like it was time to share what's been going on. As you know, I've always tried to be upfront with you, but given what I do for a living, I've kept my personal life separate from this space. However, to explain where I'm at now, I'm going to have to open up a bit more than usual.

When I started this page back in 2018, I was a single guy who never imagined having a serious relationship or a family. But a lot has changed since then—I started a family and now have two kids, who are honestly the light of my life. But they're also the reason I've stepped away.

For a while now, I've been struggling with a kind of depression. I couldn't look my children in the eye knowing what my games promote. I felt ashamed, even disgusted with myself. What I thought was my “dream job” had turned into something I hated. That's why I decided to quit.

In the past few months, I've been trying to pivot to making SFW games. But since I've been doing this for so long, my mind kept going back to ideas that were... well, sexual. That's what I've always been good at. I thought I could finish No More Money, start something new, and maybe ask you guys how you'd feel about removing a certain taboo element that shows up in all my games. But honestly, I can't do it anymore.

I can't continue with No More Money. It's been breaking me to keep working on it, and I just can't do it anymore. I know you guys enjoy these games, and there's nothing wrong with that, but for me, it's personal. I'm not really a writer. I draw inspiration from real people in my life. Most of the characters you love from No More Secrets and No More Money were inspired by ex-girlfriends, friends, people I know, so it's hard for me to separate those feelings when I'm writing. I didn't value family before, so making taboo games was easy before, but I can't do that anymore.

So, I need to know where you all stand. I know walking away from another game is going to hurt my reputation, and I'm ready to face the consequences of that. But if I were to start No More Homework without the “household” taboo, would you still be interested in the game? I really need to know what kind of adult visual novels you're into now and how you feel about this shift.

I've included a few possible answers. Based on your responses, I'll decide what I'll do in the future.

Thanks for understanding and I apologize for everything.

Bruh... is he serious?

 

[Blue Milk]

If he doesn't have taboo relationships without the ipatch to begin with, then why should he continue to worry so much? Just because project have the ipatch?

Because the patch isn't as "unofficial" as may be claimed. NMS had incest baked in and so did this game until Patreon tightened rules causing him and most other devs to quickly rewrite their games and then have "unofficial" patches put the incest back in. This game doesn't even really work as well narratively without the incest and anyone can tell the incest is the canon version.

What I can't personally understand is how his current situation changes his views on the subject. I would think that most devs who include incest in their games aren't just doing it because it's a popular kink but they must also have some open-mindedness towards it themselves. I mean, we all have families and there's bound to be loads of people who play these types of games and who make these types of games who have mothers, sisters, children, etc, but these types of games don't bother them. If he's bothered by it now that he has a family of his own, then sure, it's his personal feelings and he's not necessarily like other people in that regard that he can push past it or even own that it is his kink, but it doesn't make him a bad person to still have it whilst also having his own family because it's not like it means he would even act on it later in life or have any kind of thoughts towards it. But it feels as though he's quitting because his current situation makes him feel guilt and shame for the kink he has/had.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that he needn't feel such feelings of guilt and shame. There are writers out there who write murder mysteries but it doesn't mean they have any intent to commit such crimes themselves. Writers can still write with a sense of distance from the subject material if they just focus on the story they're trying to tell with it and realise this comes first. So this game has incest and maybe he wrote it from the perspective of a personal kink before, well then change that perspective to "this best serves the story and it's integral to it", then he'll maybe see these characters and relations as less of a kink he feels ashamed of and more as just the characters they are within the context of the story he's writing. Distance himself from seeing it as just the kink and focus on the context to make a meaningful story with this subject material as he already has been.

 

[Anteron]

I mean, if he were to make something like Summer's Gone for example down the line where there is nudity but no sex at all and its focused on story i would be down for that. That said, i would still love to see this game finished at some point because its his best game IMO

Hell no. No sex = shit game.
Also, what sucks is never seeing Katrina get what she had coming.

 

[fpsgamer]

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This is diabolically too funny bruh. The f95 in background like a creep lmao

 

[Draakaap23]

At least he didn't blue ball us by withholding Triss and the Mom, which is already tons better then almost all the quitters before him that tried making incest games! Shame to see the dev go.

 

[LSC82]

At least he didn't blue ball us by withholding Triss and the Mom, which is already tons better then almost all the quitters before him that tried making incest games! Shame to see the dev go.

Writing and creating these scenes may have been what pushed him over the edge unfortunately.

Still think he should tighten his seat belts and give the game at least a rushed ending, very little chance of that however

 

[ramvivat]

Because the patch isn't as "unofficial" as may be claimed. NMS had incest baked in and so did this game until Patreon tightened rules causing him and most other devs to quickly rewrite their games and then have "unofficial" patches put the incest back in. This game doesn't even really work as well narratively without the incest and anyone can tell the incest is the canon version.

What I can't personally understand is how his current situation changes his views on the subject. I would think that most devs who include incest in their games aren't just doing it because it's a popular kink but they must also have some open-mindedness towards it themselves. I mean, we all have families and there's bound to be loads of people who play these types of games and who make these types of games who have mothers, sisters, children, etc, but these types of games don't bother them. If he's bothered by it now that he has a family of his own, then sure, it's his personal feelings and he's not necessarily like other people in that regard that he can push past it or even own that it is his kink, but it doesn't make him a bad person to still have it whilst also having his own family because it's not like it means he would even act on it later in life or have any kind of thoughts towards it. But it feels as though he's quitting because his current situation makes him feel guilt and shame for the kink he has/had.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that he needn't feel such feelings of guilt and shame. There are writers out there who write murder mysteries but it doesn't mean they have any intent to commit such crimes themselves. Writers can still write with a sense of distance from the subject material if they just focus on the story they're trying to tell with it and realise this comes first. So this game has incest and maybe he wrote it from the perspective of a personal kink before, well then change that perspective to "this best serves the story and it's integral to it", then he'll maybe see these characters and relations as less of a kink he feels ashamed of and more as just the characters they are within the context of the story he's writing. Distance himself from seeing it as just the kink and focus on the context to make a meaningful story with this subject material as he already has been.

Well, yes, "clothes do not make the man, but the man makes the clothes." Man is not for perversions, but only perversions are for man, like spices for a dish. It's enough to act like writers or artists - splashing out unspoken emotions on paper. Because it is known that paper does not blush.

And also, it seems to me that he has a problem with trust in the family. However, this is a common thing. And not all of us strive to dump the contents of our muddy pool on the heads of our loved ones.
Another thing is that the devils, once settled, will not be exorcised just like that - an expression about a holy place that is not empty, I think you know it. To expel the devil, you need to find a replacement for him - otherwise you will only make it worse, if you do not know what kind of replacement you are preparing, it is better not to touch anything.
But perhaps the author found a worthy replacement for the expelled devil - in this case I will wish him only the best. I sincerely hope that my words will not be taken for irony.

 

[Brovalon]

I know my thoughts aren't worth much, but I'd be happy with any content we got from RoyalCandy, incest or not. What I care about for games on this site is that the girls are hot. City of Broken Dreamers, Being a DIK, are excellent examples of games with hot girls, no incest (as far as I know, no spoilers for Being A DIK please), that I enjoy playing.

Taboo content are the sprinkles - if the cake is good enough without them, I'll eat the cake and be happy regardless.

 

[Maccabbee]

Because the patch isn't as "unofficial" as may be claimed. NMS had incest baked in and so did this game until Patreon tightened rules causing him and most other devs to quickly rewrite their games and then have "unofficial" patches put the incest back in. This game doesn't even really work as well narratively without the incest and anyone can tell the incest is the canon version.

What I can't personally understand is how his current situation changes his views on the subject. I would think that most devs who include incest in their games aren't just doing it because it's a popular kink but they must also have some open-mindedness towards it themselves. I mean, we all have families and there's bound to be loads of people who play these types of games and who make these types of games who have mothers, sisters, children, etc, but these types of games don't bother them. If he's bothered by it now that he has a family of his own, then sure, it's his personal feelings and he's not necessarily like other people in that regard that he can push past it or even own that it is his kink, but it doesn't make him a bad person to still have it whilst also having his own family because it's not like it means he would even act on it later in life or have any kind of thoughts towards it. But it feels as though he's quitting because his current situation makes him feel guilt and shame for the kink he has/had.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that he needn't feel such feelings of guilt and shame. There are writers out there who write murder mysteries but it doesn't mean they have any intent to commit such crimes themselves. Writers can still write with a sense of distance from the subject material if they just focus on the story they're trying to tell with it and realise this comes first. So this game has incest and maybe he wrote it from the perspective of a personal kink before, well then change that perspective to "this best serves the story and it's integral to it", then he'll maybe see these characters and relations as less of a kink he feels ashamed of and more as just the characters they are within the context of the story he's writing. Distance himself from seeing it as just the kink and focus on the context to make a meaningful story with this subject material as he already has been.

Unless you have kids you just can't understand the emotional impact it has on everything else in life.

 

[fpsgamer]

I know my thoughts aren't worth much, but I'd be happy with any content we got from RoyalCandy, incest or not. What I care about for games on this site is that the girls are hot. City of Broken Dreamers, Being a DIK, are excellent examples of games with hot girls, no incest (as far as I know, no spoilers for Being A DIK please), that I enjoy playing.

Taboo content are the sprinkles - if the cake is good enough without them, I'll eat the cake and be happy regardless.

Yeah there are lot of games out there that were very good both as a game and comercial. I would add 'becoming a rockstar' and whole lot of Tlaro games like finding Miranda, Redemption of Jessica universe and many more.
RC clearly is uncomfortable touching anything taboo genre(for now atleast), he should just put it in complete hold and start something new. Maybe when he is good place in life where he can seperate fiction and reality in a healthy way then. He can continue NNM.