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zeromike

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You must be referring to the game Amnesia (5 years of milking), well, from what I read in the Patreon guidelines STEPCEST is also not allowed. For me the best solution would be for him to delegate this game to someone else to finish, there must be someone on his own team capable of doing it.
lol yup. I didn't want to say the name since it is one of the worst examples of a dev doing a lot of nothing. It's like watching accident videos on youtube. It's horrific but I need to see what happens.
 

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I hope you're all doing well. I wanted to share some news that I received this past Saturday, which has had a big impact on my life and made me reconsider my priorities. After much thought, I’ve made the difficult decision to pause all activities related to RoyalCandy for the time being.

This wasn’t an easy choice for me, especially considering how much your support has meant in helping me live my dream of becoming a game developer and achieving financial stability. I’m incredibly grateful to you all for making that possible, and it’s tough to step away from something I’ve worked so hard on. But right now, this is the best decision I can make.

While I’ve always aimed to be open and honest with you, I can’t go into details about what’s going on personally. What I can do is pause all billings, so no one will be charged moving forward. It wouldn’t feel right to continue accepting payments without being able to deliver the work you expect, like some others might do in similar situations.

Thank you so much for the past seven years. It’s been an absolute pleasure being part of this community, and I’m deeply grateful for your support. I’m not sure when, or if, I’ll be back, but for now, I have to say goodbye.

Take care,
Jason


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That above means what exactly it means, that the game is on PERMANT HOLD, and it MAY NOT come back.

So, yes, this might be the end of RoyalCandy (Jason), and No More Money, and any other games he had in the works :cry:

I wish you luck Jason, my dad had a heart attack 3 days ago, so I can relate to sometimes you have to step away, because life is more important.
I understand where he's coming from, when it's something that close to your personnal life, it would be difficult to create when your heart tells you it's not right. I will miss his creative style and the story, but I wouldn't ask him to go against his will.
 
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I understand where he's coming from, when it's something that close to your personnal life, it would be difficult to create when your heart tells you it's not right. I will miss his creative style and the story, but I wouldn't ask him to go against his will.
You realize he took money from other people to complete this, quite a bit of it, right? Roughly $60,000 a year from current measurements. This isn't some self-funded magnum opus project that he's walking away from, he ran off with the bag and gave an, honestly, moralizing explanation for it.
 

TonyMurray

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You realize he took money from other people to complete this, quite a bit of it, right? Roughly $60,000 a year from current measurements. This isn't some self-funded magnum opus project that he's bailing out on, he ran off with the bag and gave an, honestly, moralizing explanation for it.
Small correction: he didn't take money from other people to complete this, he received money as financial support while he developed it.
 

sandstone7734

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You realize he took money from other people to complete this, quite a bit of it, right? Roughly $60,000 a year from current measurements. This isn't some self-funded magnum opus project that he's walking away from, he ran off with the bag and gave an, honestly, moralizing explanation for it.
I think that those that paid did get something in return. No promises, No contract.
 

Zorro#34

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People, has this game really been abandoned, or are there going to be new episodes?? :( :( :( :( :( :( :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
A very small chance if the original dev agrees to let someone continue this project. He himself won't work on this anymore, 100%.
So, don't expect anything.
 
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Small correction: he didn't take money from other people to complete this, he received money as financial support while he developed it.
Yeah, and video game developers only take money as "financial support" while they develop the game.

One can safely presume many people gave money to help see the game along development, not "by the way, here's some groceries, feel free to bail out any time". It wasn't a GoFundMe.
 
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fpsgamer

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Small correction: he didn't take money from other people to complete this, he received money as financial support while he developed it.
Don't go there, donation is donation. Subscription is service. Service comes with liability to deliver promises.
I support RC, but lets not go to how patreon is voluntary and patrons are not promised anything. That's just bullshit.
He made a game with promises and subscriptions in patreon for it.

On another note.
Am I bumped about him abandoning the project, Yes.
But I don't want him to continue if this makes his life worst. He earned subscription with his past work ethics. People may or may not support him further(I think majority will).
He needs to be firm about this decison though, even if he loses some patrons. His life takes precedence first, before any game. Can't have your life fucked up for a game.
Just make another game. He is good at it. He will make some other good game.
 
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TonyMurray

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Don't go there, donation is donation. Subscription is service. Service comes with liability to deliver promises.
I support RC, but lets not go to how patreon is voluntary and patrons are not promised anything. That's just bullshit.
I never said they aren't promised anything. They aren't promised a completed game though. They're promised things like game updates before anyone else, special renders, voting powers, Discord access, etc.
 

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What a bummer!

I loved, loved, loved, No more Secrets and decided to treat myself and wait a bit before starting this one.

As a married man, with children (Ok only boys, so maybe that is different), and with a mother and sisters. I do not understand the guilt of playing an incest game. I never wanted to have sex with any of my relations, but the fantasy taboo in the game itself is just that, a fantasy.

I have no sexual attraction to my RL sisters (not even secretly) that I love dearly, but it is just a convenient plot point for an adult game to have 3 LI in the same household. The dynamic between the characters is already established. Older sibling will be disinterested or bully the MC (Like in RL regardless of gender). Younger sibling will have slight hero worship (Like in RL regardless of gender). And a mother will love you unconditionally. It is the perfect setup that you have without even writing a single word. (And then some developers still fuck it up :ROFLMAO:)

BTW I feel the same with teenage kids in games. I do not mind if the in-game LI is 15 or 16, but in RL I feel very strong that girls should wait until they are 18. They are not emotionally mature enough to be in a sexual relation with an older man, before they leave high school.

Having said all that, I also believe you should do what is best for yourself, and if quitting the game is that for you, then you should do it. The best of luck to the developer! Enjoy your family!

PS. As someone that have not played this game yet. Can you recommend that I play this game in the current state? Are there a million loose ends? (As a reference, BB is officially abandoned, but it actually stopped at a very satisfactory point)
 

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Don't go there, donation is donation. Subscription is service. Service comes with liability to deliver promises.
I support RC, but lets not go to how patreon is voluntary and patrons are not promised anything. That's just bullshit.
Accept that it's true.

Patreon is voluntary and patrons are not promised anything.
 

EKG

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Accept that it's true.

Patreon is voluntary and patrons are not promised anything.
Yet they're to be expected to pledge financial support for a different project entirely from the same person that abandoned a project without an urgent need to? If they decided to step away from AVNs that is one thing, bailing on a long project just to do a different AVN because the writer is suddenly hung up on a massive reach about the genre of the work that pays their bills is where the whole thing begins to tip into melodrama on the creator's part.
 

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What a bummer!

I loved, loved, loved, No more Secrets and decided to treat myself and wait a bit before starting this one.

As a married man, with children (Ok only boys, so maybe that is different), and with a mother and sisters. I do not understand the guilt of playing an incest game. I never wanted to have sex with any of my relations, but the fantasy taboo in the game itself is just that, a fantasy.

I have no sexual attraction to my RL sisters (not even secretly) that I love dearly, but it is just a convenient plot point for an adult game to have 3 LI in the same household. The dynamic between the characters is already established. Older sibling will be disinterested or bully the MC (Like in RL regardless of gender). Younger sibling will have slight hero worship (Like in RL regardless of gender). And a mother will love you unconditionally. It is the perfect setup that you have without even writing a single word. (And then some developers still fuck it up :ROFLMAO:)

BTW I feel the same with teenage kids in games. I do not mind if the in-game LI is 15 or 16, but in RL I feel very strong that girls should wait until they are 18. They are not emotionally mature enough to be in a sexual relation with an older man, before they leave high school.

Having said all that, I also believe you should do what is best for yourself, and if quitting the game is that for you, then you should do it. The best of luck to the developer! Enjoy your family!

PS. As someone that have not played this game yet. Can you recommend that I play this game in the current state? Are there a million loose ends? (As a reference, BB is officially abandoned, but it actually stopped at a very satisfactory point)
A lot of people are talking about separating the fantasy from life, as if by making an incest game it's making the dev look at his children that way, or something. I read his post as saying it's just guilt and shame though, as you note here - I guess you want to do something that your kids can be proud of and not something that you'd want to hide from them. Imagine his kids at school and in class they are asked "what is your daddy's job?" etc.

Anyway, to your question, I say yes and no. It's a decent game, with some good story aspects to it, and I think plenty of content (both in terms of story and lewds) to keep you going for a little while. There are loose ends however, so depending on what you're like, you could end up feeling disappointed at it overall (rather than just disappointed that there will be no more, if that makes sense). The usual main issues in this circumstance are that the key players don't have their sex scenes, so here that would be mom and sister, and they both have full sex with MC, but there are other relationships (aunt, sister's friend) that are incomplete.

There are also other relationship storylines and work storylines that are unresolved, and the work one at least is something that feels like it's left hanging (IMO, the other relationships were secondary and hadn't been seen for a while by the end, so they already felt forgotten, and I don't think they had loose ends anyway).

Personally, I felt that the quality started to drop off towards the end, and with the announcements that came after the last update, I can now see why that might be the case.
 

EKG

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I read his post as saying it's just guilt and shame though, as you note here - I guess you want to do something that your kids can be proud of and not something that you'd want to hide from them. Imagine his kids at school and in class they are asked "what is your daddy's job?" etc.
This is kind of where the tipping point comes in I feel. Their hypothetical "No More Homework" idea will still result in the same answer, "my daddy makes porn" and it would still be hidden from the kids. The creator is trying to have their cake and eat it too, bailing on a project and not even concluding it just from a sudden obsessive hangup over the genre after four years just to do something only nominally different in the grand scheme of things.

There's a right way and a wrong way to do things. The right way, for example, could be to take the work that's been done so far, do some rewrites and maybe a couple months work of content to put together a conclusion of some kind, then move on to the new project. The wrong way is what we're seeing right now and it's likely not to earn much favor with their existing patrons.
 

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his wife caught him and threw a fit no doubt
nobody just starts to stop being able to seperate fantasy and reality
That sounds about right to me. By doing a little profiling, you can corellate actions/results with mindset. People having a crisis in conscience will almost surely react/respond differently than previous behavior. Here's the best example that I can give.
The old funk band Slave had a lead vocalist, Steve Arrington. In his early vocals, he sang love songs and about meeting up with females. When he found religion, he wouldn't sing about a casual hook-up. That was done by a co-lead vocalist. Somewhere between singing secular music & finding religion, he managed to sing songs of positivity and a couple of religious-type songs on the groups next two albums.Then he finally broke away from the group and went solo, singing songs of positivity and relious-type content. It just didn't come out of the blue, it was gradual and it showed in his performance.
It was the same for Prince but not quite as extreme but, if you paid close attention, his lyircs and messages changed. He went from raunchy & over-the-top, to more political, more old school r&b, and socio-educational content. Again, gradually showing up in performance until he resolved a crisis of conscious.
As I've learned both from being in LE and observations with family and friends, Nothing happens out of the blue unless something Drastic forces a change in behavior/attitude. Maybe if I go back through the game, I might spot a tell but, tbh and as an avid reader, I think that I would have found that gentle shift in storytelling but the updates felt consistent with the story, even up to now.
That being said, RC could be going through a crisis of conscious, I won't doubt him for that and he's entitled to do what he wants with his game. My only thought about the game is that, while in his absence of soul searching, he should have had an ending, albeit a rushed one, instead of cheating his supporters of the opportunity for a story resolution. Then he could have offered his explanation as to why he did so. I wish him well on resolving his moral issues. Unless one is a professional writer, an amateur can most certainly be too immersed in their work to where an event, or series of events, can make one have a crisis in conscious. I say all that just to say that his reasoning makes me skeptical. Nothing happens in a vacuum, Nothing. The signs of behavioral/moral changes will always be prevalent, even if you're not looking but you'd also have to be paying close attention to notice a shift.
 
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What do we expect from his decision and families once they founded he create some nudity story game specially includes some incestuous??? I mean, it wasn't purely hobby. It's a job... They're prolly live and eat and grow their kids from this project money.... FB_IMG_1744352771730.jpg
 
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