XV71
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Suddenly has a problem with incest but not all the money he made off the genre, what a hypocrite
like some one said few pages ago, his wife caught him and must have threaten him with the kids or something.
Zoro@stro
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So this is not a crisis of conscience at all, that is, if he hadn't been caught he would have continued with the project normally lol
Like certain politicians when they are caught embezzling money, they cry and say they regret it.
XV71
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it's not regret for the action itself, but regret for getting caught.
SlavicBrah
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Sounds like he is planning on starting and milking another game that he isn't going to finish, and he's asking for your permission at the end.
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Wow wow wow!!... a lot of people are now only speculating and talking a whole lot of BS about the reason the dev quit.
I understand the disappointment, but seriously the dev is really playing open cards here. He decided to quit working on this game due to a change in his personal believes. I personally do not agree with his reason, but come on, you need to respect his decision.
Was he caught be his wife?
We don't know - Speculating
Did he become super religious?
We don't know - Speculating
Did he stop writing only due to incest?
That is what he say, but any more deductions is again just speculating.
The bottom line is we don't know the exact circumstances that lead to him quitting, accept that it's to do with his new family.
Even if you don't agree with the reason, he did the honourable thing and said up front exactly what's going on.
I don't know RC, but I have seen his work ethic in his games, and he worked his ass off until the very end. Having a family changes your priorities. Just spending more time with the family as apposed to the Dev work is already reason enough.
He gave his reason and that is that.
Of course he is not immediately abandoning his AVN business. It's a lot of money we are talking about. He is looking at salvaging it with ether a vanilla AVN and a non-adult game. I have my doubt he will stay developing in the long run. He seems to have lost his passion. For me I would say this is the end of RC's AVN career, unless he changes his position a few months down the line.
I understand the disappointment, but seriously the dev is really playing open cards here. He decided to quit working on this game due to a change in his personal believes. I personally do not agree with his reason, but come on, you need to respect his decision.
Was he caught be his wife?
We don't know - Speculating
Did he become super religious?
We don't know - Speculating
Did he stop writing only due to incest?
That is what he say, but any more deductions is again just speculating.
The bottom line is we don't know the exact circumstances that lead to him quitting, accept that it's to do with his new family.
Even if you don't agree with the reason, he did the honourable thing and said up front exactly what's going on.
I don't know RC, but I have seen his work ethic in his games, and he worked his ass off until the very end. Having a family changes your priorities. Just spending more time with the family as apposed to the Dev work is already reason enough.
He gave his reason and that is that.
Of course he is not immediately abandoning his AVN business. It's a lot of money we are talking about. He is looking at salvaging it with ether a vanilla AVN and a non-adult game. I have my doubt he will stay developing in the long run. He seems to have lost his passion. For me I would say this is the end of RC's AVN career, unless he changes his position a few months down the line.
While I think it's a shame such a good game did not get proper ending (if not for any other reason, then for all the good people who supported financially this project of his), I think I can understand dev's reasoning. Some people just have hard time separating fiction from reality, and according to what he wrote, it has been taking significant mental toll on him, and he simply burned out. And if Royalcandy is honest about having such moral dillemas, I would argue that simply switching to making non-incest games will not "fix" or make things easier for him. He knows very well that he had created such content earlier, and you cannot simply "make any issue/problem disappear" by not addressing it, you need to face it and use rational thinking to come to terms that this is fiction, not real life.
As for game itself - well, my opinion is that the storyline and gradual tension buildup between MC and Tris (sister), and Charlotte (mother) while indeed being incestous relationship, is at the same time so well-written, and was probably the major selling factor of making this game such a success. Interactions / relationships with other characters simply were not something that many would label as highlights of the game. Aunt storyline with her background story from military is also worth mentioning, although it was not finished in full when it comes to her relationship with MC.
Incest as a taboo genre, is simply something a lot of people find exciting - not because all those people want to have sex with their relatives, but just because it is >>taboo<<. Same as BDSM for example or blackmail sex also. And I'm not talking about only VNs here, but if you look at adult websites, they have a bunch of incest videos. Royalcandy is not the first, nor the last one to deal with that topic. Simple "demand and supply" effect. Do those actors / actresses actually consider having sex with a relative in real life or deal with morality of it? I doubt it. Hell, maybe if we were living in the times of Habsburg monarchy - they fucked between each other like rabbits left, right and center, and didnt even think twice lol.
Anyhow, regarding his take on new projects, honestly I think I have no right to judge here - I will be honest and say I was not one of those good people who managed to support this game financially. They alone have that right. This is a shout-out to all those who supported NMM with their money. Without paying subscribers, many adult games that exist, would have never been created. And for that reason, I think Royalcandy should take some time to get though his burn-out, suck it up and finish NMM, and then dedicate to new genre. I hope the new content from him will be just as good as No More Secrets, and up to current content of No More Money.
As for game itself - well, my opinion is that the storyline and gradual tension buildup between MC and Tris (sister), and Charlotte (mother) while indeed being incestous relationship, is at the same time so well-written, and was probably the major selling factor of making this game such a success. Interactions / relationships with other characters simply were not something that many would label as highlights of the game. Aunt storyline with her background story from military is also worth mentioning, although it was not finished in full when it comes to her relationship with MC.
Incest as a taboo genre, is simply something a lot of people find exciting - not because all those people want to have sex with their relatives, but just because it is >>taboo<<. Same as BDSM for example or blackmail sex also. And I'm not talking about only VNs here, but if you look at adult websites, they have a bunch of incest videos. Royalcandy is not the first, nor the last one to deal with that topic. Simple "demand and supply" effect. Do those actors / actresses actually consider having sex with a relative in real life or deal with morality of it? I doubt it. Hell, maybe if we were living in the times of Habsburg monarchy - they fucked between each other like rabbits left, right and center, and didnt even think twice lol.
Anyhow, regarding his take on new projects, honestly I think I have no right to judge here - I will be honest and say I was not one of those good people who managed to support this game financially. They alone have that right. This is a shout-out to all those who supported NMM with their money. Without paying subscribers, many adult games that exist, would have never been created. And for that reason, I think Royalcandy should take some time to get though his burn-out, suck it up and finish NMM, and then dedicate to new genre. I hope the new content from him will be just as good as No More Secrets, and up to current content of No More Money.
You can definitely play the game in the current state and you will probably enjoy it. Visuals are good, and storyline and buildup is adequate. I dont want to spoil the story, but only relationship with aunt is not finished, and the final game epilogue.
incest lover m/s
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Since everyone is speculating, I want to speculate too. I think the dev is testing the reactions of his supporters and users in general. For some reason he wants to abandon incest, it could be for commercial reasons (I think that's less likely) or a crisis of conscience. Don't doubt that he'll start this game from scratch without any taboo later on, make a note of that.
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I'm going to "speculate" a little more. DEV doesn't need "interlocutors" at this point in the business. "Bunch of nonsense" this quote could be worth its own statement, also don't waste your precious time playing moderator of comments. But actions speak louder than the text itself. This is about a reaction to an action taken by DEV himself. His creative capacity, quality of work and commitment to date. Without a doubt, he was valued, even recognized by patrons who promoted him. Speculating on the issue of his, let's say, "disillusionment" with what he imagined, his financial reward "much lower" than he imagined. Yes! This is an assumption.
Disappointed by abandoning the game. No! This is just ANOTHER of thousands every week. What is also being discussed is the unnecessary justification, let's say, for "personal... family or even religious" reasons... anyway. Abandon the GAME because it's simply over! The value and "investment was BELOW what he considers IDEAL.! Or simply TURN THE PAGE. In the end, he made "another farewell SOAP OPERA". And who knows, later he will confirm his own contradiction with another fictitious name. But he will also need to know how to "disguise his artistic signature" well because some on this platform tend to be unmasked constantly.
Disappointed by abandoning the game. No! This is just ANOTHER of thousands every week. What is also being discussed is the unnecessary justification, let's say, for "personal... family or even religious" reasons... anyway. Abandon the GAME because it's simply over! The value and "investment was BELOW what he considers IDEAL.! Or simply TURN THE PAGE. In the end, he made "another farewell SOAP OPERA". And who knows, later he will confirm his own contradiction with another fictitious name. But he will also need to know how to "disguise his artistic signature" well because some on this platform tend to be unmasked constantly.
I like his story telling or character design. Maybe (just maybe) he was tired of this game, and wanted to started a new game right away. I do not mind if he remove the taboo section for his new project.
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I think he will do that, maybe with this game.
Now with regard to the removal of the taboo, games without taboo unfortunately don't work for me, it's a shame because I like his art...
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What is UNBELIEVABLE is the waste of energy and, let's say, "weight on the conscience" on an artistic, fictional work and a creation based on society, which is, let's say, a TABOO. We are not here discussing RIGHT and WRONG based on real cases and the relationship between mother and son or siblings in REAL LIFE. We are talking about and discussing an artistic work as there are many and released daily. Comics or 3D Comics are made daily and they do so because there is a consumer audience that consumes them. If you want to get into this and see it as a business, do it. But you must also be prepared to produce something that is highly "perishable" at the same speed at which it is produced. The reputation for commitment to delivering content can make you someone attractive to "investors" willing to "financially leverage" your effort. If you imagine becoming a multimillionaire, buying an island... That's up to your imagination and your account. And I say this based on the abandonment rate for the issue primarily in relation to RESULT x PROFITABILITY x GAIN.!!!
Hypocrites are those who disagree or imagine that those who do it do it only for artistic LOVE. Spare me.
And spare me this sentimentalism of "disillusionment... disappointment" after all. I didn't lose anything with this.!
Do you really think that people will support his work after abandoning 3 out of 4 games? I find it hard to believe. Issue here is not incest as a taboo aspect of VNs, issue here is that people who supported the game over the course of its development did not get what they were paying for. Even though I was not one of the subscribers, I understand these people feel betrayed, as they should be. Imagine you pay say 60-80€ and buy new PC game on Steam from Activision or Ubisoft. And as you play, one hour in the game, you just get black screen and credits saying: sorry but our developers had moral revelation and could not deliver complete game. We are now thinking about making Tetris instead of FPS or tactical shooter because we think killing people in games is bad.
You'd call bullshit on that.
Pay sites like Patreon should have fail-safes in the manner of contract to hold developers liable and to refund subscribers all their money if the developer decides to abandon the game.
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I agree with your plaguimatic point of view, he may have found a job that pays better and to reconcile it with this project is complicated, but he didn't need to do all this melodrama.
That would be somewhat understandable.
However, he ended his announcement by pitching a different AVN.
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Wow like we couldve had the best household sex game but its abandoned now? Its a sad day for me but this dev didnt look stable
If I had a dollar for every time I see the "Abandoned" tag on good AVN I'll have about $8