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Uriel ☁

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I do find it kinda ironic that in a game titled "no more secrets" about a guy tired of people keeping said secrets .... he has more than all of them combined.

Also, he's a massive douche when you think about it.

Brandy, the good girl of the school. She clearly has feelings for him yet he's stringing her along like the rest of the girls.

Steph. She's in a bad place and the guy gave her a shoulder to cry on so much so that she developed feelings for him yet she's another one he's stringing along.

Vane went through all that shit yet she's another girl who's emotions he's playing with.

He's trying it on with his own mother, sister and cousin.

His old friend and dealer also has a thing for him and is best friends with the school good girl yet it's another girl he's playing around with.

On top of that he's getting it on with one of his teachers.

On top of that he's fucking around with a stripper/teacher.

I think he's in for a bad time once all his secrets come out.
I understand your point but in this type of games you're basically forced to.

If you (the dev) force the player to pick a girl early on and stick with her to achieve the happy ending, you're both limiting the amount of content the players see each update and you're forcing them to have multiple play-through. I'm sure 80%+ of the players won't bother making a second/parallel play-through and as a dev you want them to see as much content as possible, so the updates seem bigger.

Some game (ie: Acting Lesson, probably Becoming a Rockstar) punish the player if you stray from the chosen girl, which is both realistic and just, but in my opinion is bad UX (User eXperience) since you're forcing them to start all over when their fault was trying to view as much content as possible.
 

Avaron1974

Resident Lesbian
Aug 22, 2018
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I understand your point but in this type of games you're basically forced to.

If you (the dev) force the player to pick a girl early on and stick with her to achieve the happy ending, you're both limiting the amount of content the players see each update and you're forcing them to have multiple play-through. I'm sure 80%+ of the players won't bother making a second/parallel play-through and as a dev you want them to see as much content as possible, so the updates seem bigger.

Some game (ie: Acting Lesson, probably Becoming a Rockstar) punish the player if you stray from the chosen girl, which is both realistic and just, but in my opinion is bad UX (User eXperience) since you're forcing them to start all over when their fault was trying to view as much content as possible.
AL and Rockstar etc.. are dating sims. The whole point of those is to pick a girl.

The problem this game has now is it has to end with a whole game harem or no one at all. Either way it's going to piss people off.
 

Mikey Mike

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Do we know anything at this point why the MC's adoptive dad is behind bars and where? Doesn't the MC want to visit the man that raised him most of his life? :unsure:
 

macadam

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is this game was on full 3D before ?

i think i missed a huuuuge part of something.. wtf is going on to pass from full 3D game promissing into renpy ???

:unsure: :unsure: :unsure: :oops::oops:
 

Felicityskye

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I understand your point but in this type of games you're basically forced to.

If you (the dev) force the player to pick a girl early on and stick with her to achieve the happy ending, you're both limiting the amount of content the players see each update and you're forcing them to have multiple play-through. I'm sure 80%+ of the players won't bother making a second/parallel play-through and as a dev you want them to see as much content as possible, so the updates seem bigger.

Some game (ie: Acting Lesson, probably Becoming a Rockstar) punish the player if you stray from the chosen girl, which is both realistic and just, but in my opinion is bad UX (User eXperience) since you're forcing them to start all over when their fault was trying to view as much content as possible.
You're projecting here telling what a Dev should want to do. IMO the people who want to see as much as possible is so they don't feel like it was a waste of time downloading the update.

The issue for the examples you listed is because the VN and or game is being played in work-in-progress parts. If the VN/game is complete from the start and not having to be played in parts, you still get a full experience of beginning to ending without having to wait for the next update, even if you don't see all the content on your first go. If the VN/game is finished I think people would be okay to do multiple playthroughs. Living with Temptation is a great example. That game had its grind but it was a complete full game from the start. It wasn't too much of a hassle to start a new game to see content you missed because you know you'll get a full ending payoff.

IMO the bad user experience is choosing to play an incomplete VN/game in the first place.
 

Uriel ☁

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You're projecting here telling what a Dev should want to do. IMO the people who want to see as much as possible is so they don't feel like it was a waste of time downloading the update.

The issue for the examples you listed is because the VN and or game is being played in work-in-progress parts. If the VN/game is complete from the start and not having to be played in parts, you still get a full experience of beginning to ending without having to wait for the next update, even if you don't see all the content on your first go. If the VN/game is finished I think people would be okay to do multiple playthroughs. Living with Temptation is a great example. That game had its grind but it was a complete full game from the start. It wasn't too much of a hassle to start a new game to see content you missed because you know you'll get a full ending payoff.

IMO the bad user experience is choosing to play an incomplete VN/game in the first place.
I'm not telling anyone what to do or think. I'm just discussing (civilly if I may say so) on a public forum, with other users, what the future of the game may look like. Which honestly is the whole point of having a discussion forum. I'm speculating obviously, but I made sure to specify the logic behind all my points. Maybe I failed at explaining them, english is not my first language. Sorry about that.

I agree that all of this wouldn't be a problem if the game was released already finished, but this isn't the case. With Patreon devs get paid while they're still developing the game and their patrons want quick progress and plenty of content each update. Watch a couple previous pages and you'll see some people calling the update "blue balls". I can't fathom how an update with 1 sex scene and multiple petting scenes is "blue balls", guess their sex life is much more exciting than mine.
 

Ashley young

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She's a teacher, she'd lose her job.
She just got her job. The school had a new PE teacher. She was not a teacher when she had sex with him.
Now play the update again when he goes to tell Liz and Vane they kissed, she stops him ... why ... because it's a secret.
But they do kiss. You must have skipped the scene. Vanessa even asks her afterwards if she liked the kiss, and she says yes.
Now he knows how she feels he'll stop everything he's doing and tell her all about the shit he's done and tell everyone else how she feels?
What shit? She knows that MC has been fucking a lot of people. She even knows about the MC going to Amsterdam and banging hookers. And she did not ask for a relationship. And the MC has no feelings for as far as we know.
 
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SymbioticLife

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I'll be honest I'm fairly sick of these games where you play a young sociopath who doesn't give a flying fuck about anyone but himself and how to get his dick wet, which is definitely my initial impression of the guy. It's even worse though because he's straight up racist hating the black guy who's EXACTLY like him from his description but apparently he's a shit because he's "proud of his black dick"??? Who the fuck writes this shit, is it just because most porn game devs are insane?
 

albert fish

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May 21, 2017
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I'll be honest I'm fairly sick of these games where you play a young sociopath who doesn't give a flying fuck about anyone but himself and how to get his dick wet, which is definitely my initial impression of the guy. It's even worse though because he's straight up racist hating the black guy who's EXACTLY like him from his description but apparently he's a shit because he's "proud of his black dick"??? Who the fuck writes this shit, is it just because most porn game devs are insane?
That escalated quickly'o_O
 

Avaron1974

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But they do kiss. You must have skipped the scene. Vanessa even asks her afterwards if she liked the kiss, and she says yes.
Do you even read what you are responding to?

I'm talking about the kiss with the cousin, the one the cousin stops Brian from talking about because she wants to keep it a secret.

I'll be honest I'm fairly sick of these games where you play a young sociopath who doesn't give a flying fuck about anyone but himself and how to get his dick wet, which is definitely my initial impression of the guy. It's even worse though because he's straight up racist hating the black guy who's EXACTLY like him from his description but apparently he's a shit because he's "proud of his black dick"??? Who the fuck writes this shit, is it just because most porn game devs are insane?
Oh, joy, someone else that doesn't read shit.

He hates Rene because Rene is trying to fuck Brian's sister.

Note that abortion Steph went for was because of Rene.

Nothing to do with him being black but yell racism anyway. He sure looked racist when he was fucking that Japanese lass and trying to fuck Rene's sister who also happens to be black.
 

Canto Forte

Post Pro
Jul 10, 2017
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This is some intricate game here, lots of choices ...

If at any point the game cannot figure out where you are in the rhetoric ... Error.
 

JenusKudo

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Episode 1
I caught potter masturbating on Steph's pictures. But there is no option to call Steph like the walkthrough suggest. She is already Infront of computer class and can't be interacted with.
What am I missing?
 
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