VN Ren'Py Abandoned Not Quite Dead [v0.2] [JumboCumbo]

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Zephea

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I can understand the slow development. But this thread is also inactive from days. Both from fans and also dev, I wondered is this still going on.
Too early to tell. Games do quiet between updates, just hang on and see! :>)
 

JumboCumbo

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Hey guys! My F95 notifications were screwing up, only just saw this!

Game ain't dead!

I'm having some problems with rendering new scenes, especially ones with lots of characters, i'm running on a terrible GPU (Nvidia 1050ti) which is really not suited to the strenuous scenes. Hopefully once I manage to upgrade things will be a bit faster.
 

Vi_sev

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Yeah. Adult gamea with sandbox doesn't seem right kind of combination.
In my opinion, sandbox mechanics make the game more enjoyable. Especially if you have repeatable sex scenes / levels you can reach. A VN loses most appeal (unless the story is very good and the graphics are above average) quite fast.
 
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alutarox

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In my opinion, sandbox mechanics make the game more enjoyable. Especially if you have repeatable sex scenes / levels you can reach. A VN loses most appeal (unless the story is very good and the graphics are above average) quite fast.
On the other hand, most sandboxes just end up having absolutely no choices in them, they're basically kinetic novels with a choice over which scenes you see first (or how many times you see certain scenes). Take Lessons in Love for instance: it has sandbox mechanics, but the only choices you have are whether to get involved with certain women. The only other uses for the sandbox are for grinding (not that there's much in LiL) and a few cases where you have to do something specific to trigger a certain scene (like one scene where you have to go somewhere then go home without doing anything else).

This isn't to say that LiL would work better (or even at all) as a "pure" VN but the sandbox is a neutral feature there imo.

Then you have the worst kind of sandbox: The collectable hunt. There's a few games (none of which are memorable enough to come to mind atm) where, aside from a list of objectives to complete, the only purpose of the sandbox is to pixel hunt for collectibles (either to unlock scenes or to get CGs).

Frankly, I think that the inclusion of sandbox mechanics are often only used to introduce the illusion of gameplay, to make it seem like you're doing something when you're actually not. About the only game here that I've played where the sandbox actually adds something to the game in my opinion is Love of Magic as that game's more of an RPG than a VN.

There's a reason why there's a large group of users here that are immediately put off by the sandbox tag.

(Also, no hate for LiL, it's one of the best games on the site and it does actually use its sandbox).
 

JenMistress

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So, I just reached this game on my games to play list, and well, quite the interesting Prologue, that's for sure.

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So many questions, and looking forward for when the next release comes out. Thank you for this thus far.
 

Deleted member 2412505

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In my opinion, sandbox mechanics make the game more enjoyable. Especially if you have repeatable sex scenes / levels you can reach. A VN loses most appeal (unless the story is very good and the graphics are above average) quite fast.
Then you probably haven't played that much games. Sandbox here almost everytime turn into grind fest. It only is which scene you see before which one. And we play adult games here. So we only crave good adult scenes with good story and sandbox is nothing but chore.
 

Vi_sev

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On the other hand, most sandboxes just end up having absolutely no choices in them, they're basically kinetic novels with a choice over which scenes you see first (or how many times you see certain scenes). Take Lessons in Love for instance: it has sandbox mechanics, but the only choices you have are whether to get involved with certain women. The only other uses for the sandbox are for grinding (not that there's much in LiL) and a few cases where you have to do something specific to trigger a certain scene (like one scene where you have to go somewhere then go home without doing anything else).

This isn't to say that LiL would work better (or even at all) as a "pure" VN but the sandbox is a neutral feature there imo.

Then you have the worst kind of sandbox: The collectable hunt. There's a few games (none of which are memorable enough to come to mind atm) where, aside from a list of objectives to complete, the only purpose of the sandbox is to pixel hunt for collectibles (either to unlock scenes or to get CGs).

Frankly, I think that the inclusion of sandbox mechanics are often only used to introduce the illusion of gameplay, to make it seem like you're doing something when you're actually not. About the only game here that I've played where the sandbox actually adds something to the game in my opinion is Love of Magic as that game's more of an RPG than a VN.

There's a reason why there's a large group of users here that are immediately put off by the sandbox tag.

(Also, no hate for LiL, it's one of the best games on the site and it does actually use its sandbox).
I see your point. Then again, some of my favorite games are Harem Hotel, Take Over, Superheroes Suck, Something Unlimited, Deviant Discoveries. I guess I like the freedom (or illusion of it). I generally dislike to just have to go into one direction. Maybe I want to take a break, smoke a cigarette, you know? On the other hand, some of the best stories are VNs' with no sandbox mechanics.
 

Vi_sev

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Then you probably haven't played that much games. Sandbox here almost everytime turn into grind fest. It only is which scene you see before which one. And we play adult games here. So we only crave good adult scenes with good story and sandbox is nothing but chore.
Not necessarily a chore, if done right. Grinding is a chore, yes. A well balanced sandbox with accumulating content can be rewarding.
 
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Reniere

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Might as well ask. How long or how is it going with the progress since patreon isn't an option I can't check myself.
 

JumboCumbo

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Might as well ask. How long or how is it going with the progress since patreon isn't an option I can't check myself.
Hi, it's going but it's not going quick, I'm waiting on a new GPU, the 3000 series are like golddust. I've also been learning how to do animations, but with my GPU it takes like 20 hours to do a 2 second anim at 60fps. I'll try update here more.
 

tombeir

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Hi, it's going but it's not going quick, I'm waiting on a new GPU, the 3000 series are like golddust. I've also been learning how to do animations, but with my GPU it takes like 20 hours to do a 2 second anim at 60fps. I'll try update here more.
Can't you try not to include animations till you get a better card? Might help to render faster?
 

JumboCumbo

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Hi Guys, it's been a while

Thought I would update you on how 0.2 is going.

After a busy few months, I am well and truly back in the groove of things. I have written everything for 0.2 and am working on the art now before I start the coding, which doesn't take long. I have got a new graphics card which has sped things up meaning I can do bigger and better scenes faster as well as animation, I intend for this update to be quite a bit longer than the first.

I thought I would share some images from 0.2.
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I have also been working on my rendering and photoshop skills and wanted to share some concept art of the MC with you, some of which might be relevant in future updates:

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Thank you all for your kind words and support and I hope to update you again soon!
~JumboCumbo
 

Cyberjack38

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Hi Guys, it's been a while

Thought I would update you on how 0.2 is going.

After a busy few months, I am well and truly back in the groove of things. I have written everything for 0.2 and am working on the art now before I start the coding, which doesn't take long. I have got a new graphics card which has sped things up meaning I can do bigger and better scenes faster as well as animation, I intend for this update to be quite a bit longer than the first.

I thought I would share some images from 0.2.
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I have also been working on my rendering and photoshop skills and wanted to share some concept art of the MC with you, some of which might be relevant in future updates:

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Thank you all for your kind words and support and I hope to update you again soon!
~JumboCumbo
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