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DumpTruckLover

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Jan 5, 2025
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Hi guys. I've never tried any AI chatbot before. Which site would you recommend for someone using one for the first time? Preferably a free one of course.
 

NSFW Story

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Jan 17, 2025
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Instead of using a chatbot site, go directly to the source that's powering them. They are just LLM's fine tuned on erotica. My site, is using OpenRouter with a Mistral 7b based finetune. If you have a little bit of technical skills you don't need a site like mine (which is an , not a chat bot) or any of the ones mentioned in this thread. Seeing as most of the people on this forum seem to be technically included, it'd be a LOT cheaper to just run your own and set up a vector db to store the important pieces of your convo to increase your context window. If you have a GPU try setting up ollama and you can run it all locally too.
 

desmosome

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Sep 5, 2018
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For sure, the backlash is pretty intense. From what I can tell, the developers didn't expect such strong reactions. I think most people having valid PTSD from other chatbot sites, and think it will go only downhill from here. Let's hope it will not happened.
There is a long string of dead sites that started exactly this way. Each one of them swore that it was just this little thing but the bots will totally remain unfiltered. But sure enough, they all ended the same way lol.

Anyways, while JAI has a large userbase and good creators, the site is just subpar because it lacks the new customization features and player control. I've opened my eyes to greater possibilities by using ChubAI with a free reverse proxy (CosmosRP). But Chub has a distinct lack of creators. You can import from other places, but I can't be bothered with that, heh.
 

Mr_Ainz

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Oct 26, 2017
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I'm stuck between getting into this hobby (not just for porn reasons) like fully learning how to set up, manage and interact with local models and just letting this be a novel thing that gave me a few good moments.
 
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Geigi

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Jul 7, 2017
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I'm stuck between getting into this hobby (not just for porn reasons) like fully learning how to set up, manage and interact with local models and just letting this be a novel thing that gave me a few good moments.
You mean you want to make a bot?
 

SweatyDevil

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Jan 8, 2022
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There is a long string of dead sites that started exactly this way. Each one of them swore that it was just this little thing but the bots will totally remain unfiltered. But sure enough, they all ended the same way lol.

Anyways, while JAI has a large userbase and good creators, the site is just subpar because it lacks the new customization features and player control. I've opened my eyes to greater possibilities by using ChubAI with a free reverse proxy (CosmosRP). But Chub has a distinct lack of creators. You can import from other places, but I can't be bothered with that, heh.
Yeah, it's like broken deja vu with all these sites that claim they’ll be different, only to fall into the same trap.
 

Mr_Ainz

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Oct 26, 2017
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You mean you want to make a bot?
And much more. I meant the whole AI chat thing, learning about the tech and how to set up the entire thing locally. Learning about models, maybe even making my own little app to chat with it and stuff.
 
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vidzero

Newbie
Jul 9, 2017
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Does anyone know if there is a substantial difference in the quality of RP with a paid Spicychat account and a free one? I see a lot of the LLMs are locked behind a paywall (ie: most of the nsfw ones)
 

abyss50055

Newbie
Feb 19, 2018
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And much more. I meant the whole AI chat thing, learning about the tech and how to set up the entire thing locally. Learning about models, maybe even making my own little app to chat with it and stuff.
Learning more about the technical details of LLMs/AI is definitely a good idea if you want to get more out of this hobby.

Does anyone know if there is a substantial difference in the quality of RP with a paid Spicychat account and a free one? I see a lot of the LLMs are locked behind a paywall (ie: most of the nsfw ones)
I've never used spicychat myself, but since it gets recommended quite regularly, I visited their website and after looking at their and quickly skimming through their docs, I'm not very impressed, to put it politely. Asking for around 5 bucks for 3k context? That might have been acceptable two years ago, but nowadays you can get 8k context for free. Maybe their highest subscription tier might be worth a look, if the premium models are decent and you are also looking for image generation as well (provided the image gen is usable), but their lower tier subscriptions seem to be a waste of money.
 

vidzero

Newbie
Jul 9, 2017
15
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Learning more about the technical details of LLMs/AI is definitely a good idea if you want to get more out of this hobby.



I've never used spicychat myself, but since it gets recommended quite regularly, I visited their website and after looking at their and quickly skimming through their docs, I'm not very impressed, to put it politely. Asking for around 5 bucks for 3k context? That might have been acceptable two years ago, but nowadays you can get 8k context for free. Maybe their highest subscription tier might be worth a look, if the premium models are decent and you are also looking for image generation as well (provided the image gen is usable), but their lower tier subscriptions seem to be a waste of money.
Yeah, I went for the 15$ sub and then realized that all of the nsfw focused LLMs are locked behind the 25$ sub so now I'm kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place lol. Will probably just upgrade to the high tier just to check it out for one month.
 

abyss50055

Newbie
Feb 19, 2018
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Yeah, I went for the 15$ sub and then realized that all of the nsfw focused LLMs are locked behind the 25$ sub so now I'm kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place lol. Will probably just upgrade to the high tier just to check it out for one month.
NSFW focused models only for the $25/mo subscription? Now that's a dick move... I hope you have fun regardless. Out of curiosity, what kind of models does spicychat offer? Well known classics like Magnum or are they running some 'homebrew' models?
 

vidzero

Newbie
Jul 9, 2017
15
8
NSFW focused models only for the $25/mo subscription? Now that's a dick move... I hope you have fun regardless. Out of curiosity, what kind of models does spicychat offer? Well known classics like Magnum or are they running some 'homebrew' models?
These are the current LLMs

-Default
-TheSpice
-Stheno (15)
-Lyra 12B V4 (15)
-Magnum 12B (5)
-Mythomax (25)
-DarkForest V3 (25)
-Mixtral 8x7B (15)
-Noromaid 45B (15)
-Airoboros (25)
-Midnight Rose 70b (25)
-Magnum 72b (25)
-SpicyXL Experimental (25) This one is also advertised as their "best model"
-WizardLM-2 8x22b (updated to 16k mem context) (25) I get the impression that this was their previous best model

The SpicyXL is really pretty good, possibly the best I've used but I don't have a massive amount of experience or anything, just tried JAI and Athene's Sentient AI before. I don't know if its worth 25$ for more than one month... but Its probably not too bad to try out for one month just to mess around with it and for novelty sake.

Which models are available for which prices is definitely vague when you are looking at the advertising so I have you all the prices for each one right there for easy viewing so hopefully other people don't make the same mistake I did (I had the impression that WizardLM is available at the 15$ level but its really 25.)
 
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Yurei

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Aug 6, 2017
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Spicychat and gptgirlfriend are linked (i don't exactly know how)

But last month i tried one month at gptgirlfriend, and at the end of the subscription instead of receiving an email from gptgirlfriend to say that my subscription come to the end, i recieve one from Spicychat XD.
 

desmosome

Conversation Conqueror
Sep 5, 2018
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I never paid for one of these sites, so I don't have experience with the "best" LLMs, but I doubt any of it is really worth it. All the free models I've tried on aisekai, yodayo, JAI, and chub pretty much work similarly. They got their own quirks and what not, and more advanced models will certainly be better equipped to follow complex scenarios, but by and large, what you get out of chat bots depends MUCH more on your skills as a prompter and the quality of the bot. To me, any reasonably trained model is workable. What I think is more important is the token limit. 4K was the norm for free sites before, but now it's 8K. And that does make a noticeable difference in how well the bot can follow longer stories (which still requires user skills in guiding the bot through the rp).

AFAIK, on local set ups, you can get like 32K token limit. I'm pretty curious about how that plays out compared to what I'm used to.