NTR fans why do you like NTR?!? (I like NTR)

deluges

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Seemingly everyone is against us! "Is the NTR avoidable??" This question haunts us in the discussions for our favorite games and we seem destined to be shat upon, but why? Why do you like NTR?

I like NTR because I'm a garbage person who wants to see others suffer! It's less a being cheated upon fetish (which is fine) but more that I want to see the world burn! If I'm not happy then fuck everybody else. Which seems more Alpha than Beta to me but I may be projecting a bit! Why all the exclamations! Frankly I find it more beta that people need to insert themselves into sex games to be fucking all of the video game ladies to get their self-esteem... disgraceful!
 

Meaning Less

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Nothing more beta than self-insertion.

Even self-inserters notice how beta their behavior is which is why they constantly feel the need to overcompensate, "I self-insert but I only play harem games, that means I'm alpha right?"
 

deluges

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Nothing more beta than self-insertion.

Even self-inserters notice how beta their behavior is which is why they constantly feel the need to overcompensate, "I self-insert but I only play harem games, that means I'm alpha right?"
Dude, it's so weird to me when they do this shit... like how can you not realize that you're more pathetic than the people you think are pathetic.... That's why it's impossible for me to take the "Is the ntr avoidable?!" crowd seriously... like bro, you're jerking off to a sex game, how alpha do you think you really are.... If I was alpha I'm pretty sure I'd be enjoying fucking hot ass women and not commenting on games that feature a fetish that I supposedly hate.. fuck outta here.
 

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I don't enjoy the kink (maybe I self insert too much?) but one thing that always fascinated me is the idea of a rival that you must beat in order to gain the LI. Love interests won't wait for you with their legs open and say I love you when you fuck around half of the city.
 

Loganfin

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NTR means so many different things to different people. Some guys will go bonkers if the game ever features a line of text that a woman had sex with another man in her past (seriously). I'm unable to wrap my head around that point of view.

I don't want to play a game where my character is cheated on, shamed, humiliated, ect. That is not my deal and not what I'm here for. However, I do love group sex, sharing, swinging, and watching women get fucked by lots of different dudes.

I want games where my character is a big, confident guy who knows what he's got and isn't so insecure that he needs women to devote themselves soley to him. I have zero desire in virginal, snow pure sex partners and all that comes with that. Absolutely not my thing. I want hot, messy, consensual sex between people who know what they're doing and want to mess around with others.
 

DawnCry

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The whole question about if NTR is avoidable is a legit one you know, overall a game with the NTR tag can go in 3 directions:

-Unavoidable
-Avoidable
-Optional

If the NTR is unavoidable and it's gonna be a main focus of the game then people that ask if it's avoidable will just leave, if they remain it's their fault.

If the NTR is avoidable we expect some kind of gameplay related to it and us (as a player) should take as an objective to fight against it.

If it's optional then it tends to be a certain route most of the time.

For a person that likes NTR perhaps he won't care about which option it is, but personally I actually seek games with avoidable NTR because it tends to fall into the competition aspect and it makes conquering a girl more fulfilling for me. You know, there are a lot of shades between white and black.
 

Carpe Stultus

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The whole question about if NTR is avoidable is a legit one you know, overall a game with the NTR tag can go in 3 directions:

-Unavoidable
-Avoidable
-Optional

If the NTR is unavoidable and it's gonna be a main focus of the game then people that ask if it's avoidable will just leave, if they remain it's their fault.

If the NTR is avoidable we expect some kind of gameplay related to it and us (as a player) should take as an objective to fight against it.

If it's optional then it tends to be a certain route most of the time.

For a person that likes NTR perhaps he won't care about which option it is, but personally I actually seek games with avoidable NTR because it tends to fall into the competition aspect and it makes conquering a girl more fulfilling for me. You know, there are a lot of shades between white and black.
That is not necessarily true. NTR can also be unavoidable if it is one scene that is a plot device like it was in bad teacher with the scene where he catches his girl cheating on him with another woman, funny enough is that this got only a cheating tag and not NTR i guess thats because it wasn't a dude she was fucking lol.

Technically a game with one NTR scene, avoidable or not, or even a couple as bad endings doesn't mean that the game is a NTR game even if people on here go balistic and claim the opposite.

To the actual topic:

I like NTR if and when it leads to hot, corruption sex scenes like it did in the tyrant for example. I don't insert myself into games but i like to see people suffer, at least in games or well acted in porn. I prefer darker AVN's in general like prison battleship for example.
 

Meaning Less

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I don't enjoy the kink (maybe I self insert too much?) but one thing that always fascinated me is the idea of a rival that you must beat in order to gain the LI. Love interests won't wait for you with their legs open and say I love you when you fuck around half of the city.
Not enjoying a kink is completely normal. But fear of being surprised by that kink virtually or hating others for enjoying that kink is very weird.

But I guess that is the root of most phobias, people fear what they don't understand.
If the NTR is unavoidable and it's gonna be a main focus of the game then people that ask if it's avoidable will just leave, if they remain it's their fault.
But knowing if a kink is avoidable or not will still say very little about the contents of a game.

There are some full on ntr games where you can avoid all ntr, but you will finish the entire game and only unlock a couple of cgs if you avoid everything...
And there are many normal games that have non-avoidable ntr because of one or other scene but the focus of the game is somewhere else entirely.

So in the end it is an useless question because even if the ntr is avoidable people will have no idea how much of non-ntr content there is in the game nor how much ntr content there is when it is not avoidable.
 
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Uthuriel

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That is not necessarily true. NTR can also be unavoidable if it is one scene that is a plot device...
That's something I generally don't like with any kink.
Them being used as plot device. To me that's just lazy writing.
I like NTR if and when it leads to hot, corruption sex scenes like it did in the tyrant for example. I don't insert myself into games but i like to see people suffer, at least in games or well acted in porn. I prefer darker AVN's in general like prison battleship for example.
And that's the difference. Some people here on F95 go ape-shit and confuse porn with real life.
IMHO both NTR and e.g. Harem are fantasies that wouldn't work IRL.
 

Ambir

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Hey Meaning Less , do you remember this exchange we had in the past?

'if you don't like NTR, you're insecure'
Did you ever saw anyone clamining that unironically?

All I've seen is the obvious that "if you get overly triggered by it, you might be insecure" and that sounds like a reasonable argument since I never once got as triggered towards kinks I don't like as some NTR haters seem to get.

If you don't like mustard you don't eat it, better than throwing a tantrum and demanding the hot dog stand to put a mustard warning for sensitive palates...
Here's an exemple of what I was talking about.

Nothing more beta than self-insertion.

Even self-inserters notice how beta their behavior is which is why they constantly feel the need to overcompensate, "I self-insert but I only play harem games, that means I'm alpha right?"
This kind of post, right there, is the garbage that I was refering to in that discussion. Granted, I might not have worded it perfectly, but this is what I was refering to. I really dislike how some people feel entitled to call other names or insult them because they don't share a fetish.

I hope this clarify the opinion I shared with you at the time :)
 

Meaning Less

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I really dislike how some people feel entitled to call other names or insult them because they don't share a fetish.
Well if you re-read my post you will notice that I'm talking about the act of self-insertion, not any specific fetish...

Anyone self-inserting sounds like a loser by default, regardless if they are self inserting into an ntr game or not.
 
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Lerd0

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Well if you re-read my post you will notice that I'm talking about the act of self-insertion, not any specific fetish...

Anyone self-inserting sounds like a loser by default, regardless if they are self inserting into an ntr game or not.
...guess all otome games are for losers then.......the more u know....
 

Ambir

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Well if you re-read my post you will notice that I'm talking about the act of self-insertion, not any specific fetish...
You have to think in a broader perspective, my friend. My issue is not with 'insulting people because of a fetish', it's 'insulting people because they like something', which is exactly what your post is doing.

In the end, that is what I am taking an issue with. I don't think it's right to judge people in this kind of way.

Anyone self-inserting sounds like a loser by default, regardless if they are self inserting into an ntr game or not.
I think we'll have to agree to disagree. I think what you said there sounds strange. I have trouble understanding why imagining yourself in the space of a story would have anything to do with being a loser.
Like, one of the base requirement for being able to write a proper story (so, for writing a book, making a game or creating a film scenario, or even acting a character) is being able to self insert yourself in a character and feel the world around them. Without that ability, you can't make a connection with the character, and it's really hard to describe things through the eyes of the character.

Are you really willing to call all writers, game developers, scenario writers and actors 'losers'? That sounds... A bit crazy.
 

Uthuriel

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...all otome games...are made to self insert tho....that's kinda the point of them.....
..bland no personality protags...so girls can project themselfs onto them....
Send bussy pic u slut...
 
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