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Ralpvolvos

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You think they can just not get paid for months to a year?
No, so they need to work faster and delivee what they promised the customer no?

Your argument really show that either you are extremely naive or never handle a comission/project.

You argument reeks "beggar" mentality.

"I havent finish what i promise to my customer, but i need money so they should keep paying me".

Asking for more money is another thing, but demanding it or feel entitled to it when you havent deliver your end of bargain is one way to ruin your reputation.
 
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Ralpvolvos

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Sounds like you are out of touch with the world

Construction gets paid during construction.
Developers get paid during development.
Engineers get paid during design.
Medical gets paid during treatment.
Hell even water/elec/sewage raise prices before major upgrades.

Like you really think all these and many more professions just wait for years to get paid until stuff is completed? Nothing would ever get done if thats the case lol
paying full at the front before shit being done.

This is 101 how to get scammed
 

Vaeth

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No, so they need to work faster and delivee what they promised the customer no?

Your argument really show that either you are extremely naive or never handle a comission/project.

You argument reeks "beggar" mentality.

"I havent finish what i promise to my customer, but i need money so they should keep paying me".

Asking for more money is another thing, but demanding it or feel entitled to it when you havent deliver your end of bargain is one way to ruin your reputation.
99% of companies aren't Rockstar and can take a hit of 10 years

Most civil work goes like this for example:
Employee puts in hours of work/design
Employer pays employee
Employer then sends invoice to whoever paying them every month

They are not waiting years of design to get paid lol
 

Ralpvolvos

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99% of companies aren't Rockstar and can take a hit of 10 years

Most civil work goes like this for example:
Employee puts in hours of work/design
Employer pays employee
Employer then sends invoice to whoever paying them every month

They are not waiting years of design to get paid lol
So we are moving from talking about being a customer to being an employer?

Like even a small cleaning service done by solo person or a small team, only got paid when they done the cleaning, not before.

You sure talking like someone never done any real job....
 

Tyyyr

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I have no problems with waiting a longer time for a bigger update. Forced releases every month can be bad for the overall development.

But everybody that receives regular money from supporters should give them at least a monthly progress report. Your boss also wants to know what you are doing at work.
 

Nikeee

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Sounds like you are out of touch with the world

Construction gets paid during construction.
Developers get paid during development.
Engineers get paid during design.
Medical gets paid during treatment.
Hell even water/elec/sewage raise prices before major upgrades.

Like you really think all these and many more professions just wait for years to get paid until stuff is completed? Nothing would ever get done if thats the case lol

My point was literally him being paid by his customers, why are you speaking about employers/employee relationship ? That's completely irrelevant.
 

Vaeth

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Argument was someone paying monthly for something thats not finished.

It isnt exclusive to developers, as the examples of tons of professions that follow this.

If we want to picky about solo vs company and how thats different because they can "take the hit" during design/production, Thats not the case either for most companies. Most companies cant go years without pay either to finish their product/design. Plenty of companies get paid monthly thru invoices for unfinished product.
 
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Vaeth

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Its so annoying lol. Literally every 5 pages it gets mentioned about the monthly paying crap like its exclusive to this profession.

Bring back talking and criticism about the actual game lol
 

TheLastD

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Developer Nosy did say joining Pateron as membership is to support his future development.
And each update he just want to make sure his work is in highest quality before he release out for all players to enjoy.

Anyway I hope he complete the company promotion trip story arc all in v0.22 update rather than spilt into 2 update.
The last mention was this company promotion trip story arc is another biggest update which he need extra more time.

As a Pateron paid customer, you can choose to unsubscribe and re-subscribe 1 month after his new update release to contiune his support. So no need to complain why his new update is not up in this month or why should I pay for a incomplete game.
You subscribe his Pateron to support his development and join his discord.

And once unsubscribe, you will be disconnect from discord. Unless you want to chat with him or other subscribers, you can choose to subscribe the cheaper membership to join his discord. His discord is lively and fun people around the world. I like the ai images post by other subscriber as they are learning & experimenting. The only thing I don't like in his discord is waiting for the food to be serve and every month is in hunger state.

But for now fallen priestess is keeping me busy atm, maybe Nosy is also researching in FP NTR atm.
I looking forward his release before chirstmas.
 
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Ralpvolvos

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Developer Nosy did say joining Pateron as membership is to support his future development.
And each update he just want to make sure his work is in highest quality before he release out for all players to enjoy.

Anyway I hope he complete the company promotion trip story arc all in v0.22 update rather than spilt into 2 update.
The last mention was this company promotion trip story arc is another biggest update which he need extra more time.

As a Pateron paid customer, you can choose to unsubscribe and re-subscribe 1 month after his new update release to contiune his support. So no need to complain why his new update is not up in this month or why should I pay for a incomplete game.
You subscribe his Pateron to support his development and join his discord.

And once unsubscribe, you will be disconnect from discord. Unless you want to chat with him or other subscribers, you can choose to subscribe the cheaper membership to join his discord. His discord is lively and fun people around the world. I like the ai images post by other subscriber as they are learning & experimenting. The only thing I don't like in his discord is waiting for the food to be serve and every month is in hunger state.

But for now fallen priestess is keeping me busy atm, maybe Nosy is also researching in FP NTR atm.
I looking forward his release before chirstmas.
newest update from patreon chat (not post) from his beta tester/proof reader (maybe), is that he encounter a big problem in the unity engine or code so it will be delayed a for a few days *maybe 3 or 4).

i dont really mind the delay, it is not the end of the world and avn being delayed is an everyday thingy here but getting an "official" post or status update is much more welcoming than total silent.
 
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Nikeee

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Developer Nosy did say joining Pateron as membership is to support his future development.
And each update he just want to make sure his work is in highest quality before he release out for all players to enjoy.

Anyway I hope he complete the company promotion trip story arc all in v0.22 update rather than spilt into 2 update.
The last mention was this company promotion trip story arc is another biggest update which he need extra more time.

As a Pateron paid customer, you can choose to unsubscribe and re-subscribe 1 month after his new update release to contiune his support. So no need to complain why his new update is not up in this month or why should I pay for a incomplete game.
You subscribe his Pateron to support his development and join his discord.

And once unsubscribe, you will be disconnect from discord. Unless you want to chat with him or other subscribers, you can choose to subscribe the cheaper membership to join his discord. His discord is lively and fun people around the world. I like the ai images post by other subscriber as they are learning & experimenting. The only thing I don't like in his discord is waiting for the food to be serve and every month is in hunger state.

But for now fallen priestess is keeping me busy atm, maybe Nosy is also researching in FP NTR atm.
I looking forward his release before chirstmas.

He already said he's cutting the next story arc in half.
 

HelloFitze

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Since when a customer become responsible of ones paycheck, that is the responsible of the employer, LMAO.
And for that subject, there is a misunderstanding about our status for the dev... We are in fact not customers. Customers are the people here to buy/obtain the finished product and so, they would have to pay only once.
But that's not the case for many people here, since we do not even buy the game and instead download it here.

And for any one on Patreon... Well they're no customers either ; by staying close to the analogy, they're closer to investors.
They saw a project in which they're interested and they funded a part of it to see it come to fruition. That does not mean that they have any right about directing the game of course, all they are able to get is the counterparts of their Patreon subs (access to the Discord, exclusive news, etc.)

If you go buy some bread, does that give you credit to demand that the baker modifies its recipe ? No.
By the same rule, you have no right to demand something from the dev : you can suggest your ideas sure, but if they are ignored... That's absolutely normal. You are still free to create your own game if you cannot be satisfied otherwise.

If you are interested in the project, you can participate by helping the dev sure, but doing so does not give you any control over the project or the way the dev works. If you are not interested, well Internet is big enough for you to go elsewhere, or just be patient because the dev will let you play the game even if you did not pay him anyway.


And for the dev, many of us who aren't professionnal ragebaiters like your game very much, and wish only to see you continue with the great work! So good luck with it, we'll be eagerly watching and playing!
(Sorry if it's hard to understand, I'm not English)
 

asTra1

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I think the dev is making the fan base take NO NUT NOVEMBER challenge by not releasing the update... But you know what I already failed it and so do others and on the last update we didn't got any Liz actions(which I was like who is that new girl I don't give a rat ass about her, when is Liz getting railed...... No action on this update..... Nooo ) so we are thirsting for the new update even more than usual like waiting for rain in hot summer day... So please drop the update fast cuz November is over...
-Your Fan & Lurker
 
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Ion.TemUS

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Sounds like you are out of touch with the world

Construction gets paid during construction.
Developers get paid during development.
Engineers get paid during design.
Medical gets paid during treatment.
Hell even water/elec/sewage raise prices before major upgrades.

Like you really think all these and many more professions just wait for years to get paid until stuff is completed? Nothing would ever get done if thats the case lol
video editor gets payed after the job is done
content creator gets payed after the video
barber gets payed after the haircut is done

yes some people get payed while they are doing things, but that is the case for people who are employed, not people who are self-employed. people who run a company dont get payed before they make money, cause they own the company and the company has to make money before they can get payed. unless they take up a loan.

if you spin this logic to it's end point a game developer is either an employer of your patrons, in which case they should fire the dev or deduct pay for a delayed job, or they are borrowing money from them in which case they should get interest.

Or - strange thought I know - they are self-employed, in which case you are not entitled to any money before the job is done.

Don't get me wrong, I still like stuff like Patreon, because people can support (video/art/game) creators that they like to live their dream job.
Back in the day mostly rich people or people with a really good sales pitch could take up stuff like game development, because they had to finance themselves or look for a big sponsor. Today a person can get their project kickstarted and/or supported and I think that is great.
 

robyfinocchinetti

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Hi everyone!
I just don't get it if there's a way to have Liz get into a gangbang or sex with someone that's not her boss. Can't find a guide after v0.18 :(

Thanks to anyone for posting a lot of interesting facts about the game!
 
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