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[2022meinfzone]

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Agree. But my reasons is I like gangbang content. The female characters have 2 holes (or 3 holes if you including the mouth) that can be used during the act, so 1 female character can potentially interact with 3 dicks or more.

Efficiency is the name of the game!

 

[PrivateEyes]

Kubel is definitely top-tier in the NTR genre. No debate about that.
The reason it’s not as popular as other games is that it’s too genuine of an NTR game.
A lot of people don’t actually want honest, gradual NTR but fast-food NTR.
I hate using the term, but "NTR tourists" are a very real thing.

They love the taboo idea of NTR more than how well it’s actually implemented.
And they are averse to reading if it’s not dialog that advances the H. That’s why RPG Makers and animated games are always trending over traditional VNs.
I’ve seen some really amazing takes like "NTR Phone" and "NTR Legend" being called masterpieces of the genre.
That’s like calling wrestlers the best fighters ever. ><

But you don’t have to take my word for it. Just have a look at Kubel’s F95 thread.
What’s the most common complaint?
That there are no H-scenes within the first few hours of the game.

The attention spans of modern H-gamers are truly lamentable.

You also have to consider the average audience of NTR- Gooners. Most people want to fap without overthinking. Maybe some want spicy feelings accompanying the fap, but most aren't looking for some deep characterization or portrayal of NTR. For many, NTR is just another brand and/or fetish. No different from vanilla, tentacles, etc.

The rare few who do would just read an adult novel with adultery instead where story usually takes precedence over erotica.

The demands of modern H-gamers I'd argue have never changed. There are simply more of them. And the majority of those, just like any form of entertainment, primarily consist of casuals. Casuals not looking for mind-blowing or genre defining works that advance the medium, but "good enough" works that let them wank without much effort.

Devs aiming to make a game that fully takes advantage of the NTR genre will have to take solace with the fact that they are developing something for a niche audience of an already niche genre.

 

[Sieglinnde]

When you guys talk about Kubel I feel that I have played a version of Curse of Kubel different that you have played... I am not going to say it's a bad game or something since I am no one to say that and I don't like to criticize other works... But I will just say I didn't really liked Kubel and I really didn't feel the NTR in it (I didn't finished the game though)

 

[Sieglinnde]

We need to talk about how Luxoria would be even more acclaimed if it had at least a 7 star artwork

It was my favorite "NTR" game for a long time, it's sad that I didn't like Amor Magical Academy that much

 

[ZBYToshiro]

When you guys talk about Kubel I feel that I have played a version of Curse of Kubel different that you have played... I am not going to say it's a bad game or something since I am no one to say that and I don't like to criticize other works... But I will just say I didn't really liked Kubel and I really didn't feel the NTR in it (I didn't finished the game though)

When I first played Curse of Kubel, I approached it as just another typical corruption FMC game, and at the time, I didn't understand what made it special. However, replaying it two years later completely blew my mind. Curse of Kubel is a sandbox game that meticulously hones in on mechanics serving its core theme—which is why it initially feels more constrained and less free compared to a standard sanbox FMC game. But in reality, it executes nearly every mechanic it introduces flawlessly: the town's gossip about the female protagonist, the detailed corruption menu tracking her psychological shifts after each encounter with the villain, the dungeon harassment system that masterfully evokes that guilty yet thrilling tension in the player,.... Finally, in my opinion, this game did everything it needed to excel purely as an FMC NTR experience.

 

[Kulman]

At the risk of my non-existent reputation, I'm going to put out an opinion that will probably have 90 percent of people roast my ass.

NTR games with only one partner/bull are mid. Most of them end up sounding like the average female drama where another guy sweeps them off their feet with their money, looks, or status. Except you're in the position of the poor shmuck who watches it happen rather than the female lead who is portraying it as a fairy tale.

NTR with multiple partners is the true debauchery.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

I agree. A lot of people hate multiple corruptors, they sounds kinda like vanilla lovers in that regard. Its a tough battle trying to push for henteria chronicles to not have the heroines be spoken for with only their corruptors. Thats just not full corruption for me. But people get very defensive with that and I swear they sound just like the people that push against ntr at every step in these threads.

Vanillafags in disguise man.

For me its also all about the debauchery. Sometimes I wonder if Im just into corruption and ntr is just the genre that has the most abundancy of it.

 

[-FibaG-]

Kubel is definitely top-tier in the NTR genre. No debate about that.
The reason it’s not as popular as other games is that it’s too genuine of an NTR game.
A lot of people don’t actually want honest, gradual NTR but fast-food NTR.
I hate using the term, but "NTR tourists" are a very real thing.

They love the taboo idea of NTR more than how well it’s actually implemented.
And they are averse to reading if it’s not dialog that advances the H. That’s why RPG Makers and animated games are always trending over traditional VNs.
I’ve seen some really amazing takes like "NTR Phone" and "NTR Legend" being called masterpieces of the genre.
That’s like calling wrestlers the best fighters ever. ><

But you don’t have to take my word for it. Just have a look at Kubel’s F95 thread.
What’s the most common complaint?
That there are no H-scenes within the first few hours of the game.

The attention spans of modern H-gamers are truly lamentable.

You can't compare apple with pears...I agree to disagree with you.
It's true that now this days we can't find to many good ntr.
But to call "The Curse of Kubel" that is only in fmc on of the best tier-top ntr it's insult to other good games.
In my opinion if you don't have MC you don't have NTR...It's just cheat on female perspective.
I really don't understand you guys.
I really hate only "pixel sex" type like NTR Legend, even if have best story ever in 2025 without any graphic it would be feeling incomplete.

Call me old man but the best ntr I ever played was the vn that was around 2008-2018...it was like a gold age from japan...now these days it's just shallows vn without any good developing between characters, no more drama, no more taboo.
Usually the best game from ntr is when have the more unacceptable situation from society the more intrigue to play the game...something new, unexpected or twist story...well pace storyline with slow-corruption let the story first catch you then bam tragedy happens.

Like the last game I played It was good feeling like other old vn and unexpected rpgm I was surprise to see how good is "Sanctuary of Promises and Contracts" first stage grown relationship between characters, second stage mystery ntr slowly the heroine get corruption without mc realised what happens and final stage unwrap the story & the outcome of the events...just a perfect game if the dev add voice in would be 10/10...It remind me of another masterpiece "Boku no Kanojo wa Gatenkei".

I wish the ntr genre have some solid story standard and not a just fuck mindless monkey characters...many recently ntr was mediocre and waste of time atleast the ntr tag on f95 it's awful as always reviews with 5/5 on shitty futa, gay, fmc ntr games.
No comment.

 

[Zycr]

At the risk of my non-existent reputation, I'm going to put out an opinion that will probably have 90 percent of people roast my ass.

NTR games with only one partner/bull are mid. Most of them end up sounding like the average female drama where another guy sweeps them off their feet with their money, looks, or status. Except you're in the position of the poor shmuck who watches it happen rather than the female lead who is portraying it as a fairy tale.

NTR with multiple partners is the true debauchery.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

Hi dear NTR comrade, I'm one of those 90% who will roast your ass.

No but seriously, while I do find some multiple partner NTR game great like My... , most of those just feel like protitution. The only emotion she feels is "oh, I love sex, they all have better dick than my husband/boyfriend/whatever". You just start to dislike the heroine because she's just a whore in disguise.

This is why I much prefer NTR with only one antagonist where the heroine really fall not only for sex but also in love for the antagonist. You still like the heroine, but she has chosen another person and it feels like she was really stolen from you, instead of her just going into crazy sex mode whenever she see anyone but you in the street in multi-protag NTR where I just feel like "wow, she like sex" and don't really feel anything since the heroine wasn't really in love with you to begin with.

Nice TED talk though .

 

[PrivateEyes]

Hi dear NTR comrade, I'm one of those 90% who will roast your ass.

No but seriously, while I do find some multiple partner NTR game great like My... , most of those just feel like protitution. The only emotion she feels is "oh, I love sex, they all have better dick than my husband/boyfriend/whatever". You just start to dislike the heroine because she's just a whore in disguise.

This is why I much prefer NTR with only one antagonist where the heroine really fall not only for sex but also in love for the antagonist. You still like the heroine, but she has chosen another person and it feels like she was really stolen from you, instead of her just going into crazy sex mode whenever she see anyone but you in the street in multi-protag NTR where I just feel like "wow, she like sex" and don't really feel anything since the heroine wasn't really in love with you to begin with.

Nice TED talk though .

I appreciate your perspective, comrade.

 

[mtl poet]

Call me old man but the best ntr I ever played was the vn that was around 2008-2018...it was like a gold age from japan...

Have you played "Sayoko ~ The Summer I Wished Upon a Star"? I can't honestly say it's one of the best NTRs I've ever tried or anything, but fuck me if I say it didn't get to me after many hours of playing. Truly one of the few slice-of-life experiences out there.

 

[Yambidexter]

In my opinion if you don't have MC you don't have NTR...It's just cheat on female perspective.

At this point something like that has to be pinned and showed on top of every page here.

But it won't change their ways anyway.

'Well it's not set in stone, and if feels like NTR to me, so it must be it.'

'Well it's Japanese term so they now better and when they put the NTR tag over every shitty game to upsell it it must definitely be it.' (that one reminds me of 'Everyone says or does something, so it must be right'. Crap worthy of a 5 y.o.)

'Well NTR means someone being taken away from you when you're 'sleeping' i.e. don't know about that so when a neigbour feeds your dog behind your back and they run away to him eventually it must be it, definitely' (no joking here. And some people even upvoted this shit).

'Well I play an NTR RPG game and move around and fight and make all the choices regarding endings/branches, but oh no I don't self-insert, I'm an omni-potent God just watching the story, but it still must be NTR when some gal fucks around on her boyfriend appearing a couple of times during the game or just being barely mentioned' (every omni-potent overwatching God gets jealous and angsty when some random unrelated gal cheats on her BF/husband, cause this is what NTR is about, right?).

Pathetic. But pointless to argue. As it was aptly put, 'they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience'. One more thing comes to mind - Goya's 'The Sleep of Reason Produces Monsters'. Must be difficult to live devoid of logical capabilities -

I wonder if it ever occurs to them that term 'cheating' (that's what's happening when some gal fucks around on her man) has been around for millenia, and 'netorare/green hat' probably for a century or two. Cause the next thing would be to ask oneself - why is that? The new term appearing when there is an older one established? What is the difference here?

Or it would be easy to grasp that stealing is something that is done covertly, without the subject being aware, otherwise it'd have been something different - robbery. So without any dwelling into the ethymology of Japanese term it's clear that 'sleeping' part of it doesn't mean 'not knowing', cause it's redundant, it's sexual as in 'sleeping with someone'. This immediately stops these cats and dogs - monsters produced by the sleeping reason - train of thought from running rampant, to your neighbour or wherever else... Ironically, the guy would persevere and even patronize you saying how complex and nuanced Asian culture and meanings can be and how elusive they are for western barbarians, LMFAO...

Sigh...

 

[Sayasaya111]

Would,

"If it hurts you, it's NTR."

help?
Because that's the main thing I seek from NTR.

 

[cIoseopenbrutal]

Not this again.

Guess I'll just have to simply explain why fmc ntr is ntr. This time with a good and simple logic behind it. Just go watch JAV ntrs. It's 80% focused in female pov. It's also hidden ntr most of the time. Unrealistic , a bit rapey sometimes, but it still hooks a lot of people. Now apply that to an ntr game. That's pretty much it really.

And it's not exactly cheating (depending on the game) , as theyre mostly blackmailed, forced , hypnotized, corrupted and the like.

Im not even a big fan of fmc ntr, but at least, I understand the perspective of it. Is it better than ntr w/ male protag? No (on rare circumstances, it can be).

I'll say it again, just leave the fmc ntr enjoyers alone. If you cant see what they can see, that's a You problem. No need to cry about it if you cant get into it.

 

[blablablagivemethemoney]

Kubel is definitely top-tier in the NTR genre. No debate about that.
The reason it’s not as popular as other games is that it’s too genuine of an NTR game.
A lot of people don’t actually want honest, gradual NTR but fast-food NTR.
I hate using the term, but "NTR tourists" are a very real thing.

They love the taboo idea of NTR more than how well it’s actually implemented.
And they are averse to reading if it’s not dialog that advances the H. That’s why RPG Makers and animated games are always trending over traditional VNs.
I’ve seen some really amazing takes like "NTR Phone" and "NTR Legend" being called masterpieces of the genre.
That’s like calling wrestlers the best fighters ever. ><

But you don’t have to take my word for it. Just have a look at Kubel’s F95 thread.
What’s the most common complaint?
That there are no H-scenes within the first few hours of the game.

The attention spans of modern H-gamers are truly lamentable.

What's funny is, I got through the intro of the game, and quit once things actually got spicy. The reason being that Kagura's translation didn't have functioning fucking text wrapping during sex scenes (for the bits of flavour text iirc) and I HATE missing out on words lmfao.

I don't know if that issue is fixed now (it probably is), but I don't think I will play Kubel anytime soon. Back then I was still discovering the different aspects of NTR I liked, and now I have pretty solid tastes in NTR - exclusively female protagonist NTR is something I do not care for unfortunately.

 

[monsterartisan]

Kubel is definitely top-tier in the NTR genre. No debate about that.
The reason it’s not as popular as other games is that it’s too genuine of an NTR game.
A lot of people don’t actually want honest, gradual NTR but fast-food NTR.
I hate using the term, but "NTR tourists" are a very real thing.

They love the taboo idea of NTR more than how well it’s actually implemented.
And they are averse to reading if it’s not dialog that advances the H. That’s why RPG Makers and animated games are always trending over traditional VNs.
I’ve seen some really amazing takes like "NTR Phone" and "NTR Legend" being called masterpieces of the genre.
That’s like calling wrestlers the best fighters ever. ><

But you don’t have to take my word for it. Just have a look at Kubel’s F95 thread.
What’s the most common complaint?
That there are no H-scenes within the first few hours of the game.

The attention spans of modern H-gamers are truly lamentable.

I want to like kubel, it has a really good idea on how it works. It's just a lot too easy for me. I want the heroine to actually be forced into it. NTR games where NTR is easy to avoid just takes me out of the immersion because now I have to deliberately choose it.

 

[monsterartisan]

At the risk of my non-existent reputation, I'm going to put out an opinion that will probably have 90 percent of people roast my ass.

NTR games with only one partner/bull are mid. Most of them end up sounding like the average female drama where another guy sweeps them off their feet with their money, looks, or status. Except you're in the position of the poor shmuck who watches it happen rather than the female lead who is portraying it as a fairy tale.

NTR with multiple partners is the true debauchery.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

Now that you have said this. I am curious and want to ask you specifically. What is your opinion on one bull NTR game but at the later part of the corruption. The bull prostitutes the heroine/FL.

 

[BaoJenesis]

Hey guys! Do you know how to translate asmr content or it script to english?

 

[Komdot]

Just go watch JAV ntrs.

Worst possible example, it just shows that NTR + FMC are bad, JAVs are horrible in history and especially those of NTR.
Gyu must be the kings of the NTR then... I'm not 100% against FMC NTR, but it only works when you also play as the cuck a bit, or in some part, there's no NTR when it's you yourself making her cheat, it's no fun, mainly because you're watching everything, it already takes away the mystery that is another fundamental part.

 

[cIoseopenbrutal]

Worst possible example, it just shows that NTR + FMC are bad, JAVs are horrible in history and especially those of NTR.
Gyu must be the kings of the NTR then... I'm not 100% against FMC NTR, but it only works when you also play as the cuck a bit, or in some part, there's no NTR when it's you yourself making her cheat, it's no fun, mainly because you're watching everything, it already takes away the mystery that is another fundamental part.

That's why I said it's not better than male protag ntr in general. In the end, that's just your own preference and you're simply not enjoying the context of it. Which, is ok. Not everyone can like the same thing.

Lots of people still watches jav ntr and I see no problem with it.Heck even in ntr mangas, it's mostly 80% female pov. Even in hentai ntr ones.

Sometimes, people are not looking for the "mystery" in ntr , they're looking for the saddistic part of it , where the love interest/lover of fmc wont get her anymore. If you dont have the same lense on how people play fmc ntr, you will NEVER understand it.

 

[-FibaG-]

Not this again.

Guess I'll just have to simply explain why fmc ntr is ntr. This time with a good and simple logic behind it. Just go watch JAV ntrs. It's 80% focused in female pov. It's also hidden ntr most of the time. Unrealistic , a bit rapey sometimes, but it still hooks a lot of people. Now apply that to an ntr game. That's pretty much it really.

And it's not exactly cheating (depending on the game) , as theyre mostly blackmailed, forced , hypnotized, corrupted and the like.

Im not even a big fan of fmc ntr, but at least, I understand the perspective of it. Is it better than ntr w/ male protag? No (on rare circumstances, it can be).

I'll say it again, just leave the fmc ntr enjoyers alone. If you cant see what they can see, that's a You problem. No need to cry about it if you cant get into it.

Chill my friend nobody cry around here it was my opinion if you like or dislike that's your problem.

If I don't enjoy "only fmc ntr" that's not mean I need to force myself to like it, they're free to play whatever they want but for me it didn't feel at all that is a true netorare is just a girl that cheat around and fuck other guys...it's more netori than netorare.

For netorare you need to feel something when you read the story(and if you are man you can related more with mc than fmc), it's not the same shit...only mc or both perspective if not is not netorare it's simple to understand.
For fmc to have netorare is when her man fuck other girls and fmc feel the pain in her relatioship with that guy, but most fmc with ntr tag in games have just corruption on her side not on the guy, so it focus corruption on herself do you get what I say now?

Yea I enjoy when I have 2 perspective both male and female to create the tension & feelings between them if the game let you to choose.

and on Jav is just pure marketing to put ntr on everything just to sell more, you can't be serious when you compare games with jav it's a total different.
In jav is a minimal story background to even feel something when you watch it...You probably feel more when you look on the Movies in drama genre some movies yes have the feeling of ntr because it focus on characters....In jav is just sex with 10% story.