Also, saying My... isn't in the same universe as Curse of Kubel is crazy. Its understandable if you like Curse of Kubel more than My...., but to say the two games aren't even in the same universe as if My... is some typical RPGM NTR slop is crazy. For one, My... is a completely novel concept and actually has very unique and fun game play elements. Been a while since I played Kubel, but from my recollection, it was a generic premise from the start with the Art being the main standpoint. My... also isn't even technically finished. I am sure that the author is only splitting the game up for monetary reasons. But despite this, its scope and scenes are already comparable to Kubel. Once its fully finished, I bet My.... will enter discussions for Top 10 greatest of all time.
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At the risk of my non-existent reputation, I'm going to put out an opinion that will probably have 90 percent of people roast my ass.
NTR games with only one partner/bull are mid. Most of them end up sounding like the average female drama where another guy sweeps them off their feet with their money, looks, or status. Except you're in the position of the poor shmuck who watches it happen rather than the female lead who is portraying it as a fairy tale.
NTR with multiple partners is the true debauchery.
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NTR games with only one partner/bull are mid. Most of them end up sounding like the average female drama where another guy sweeps them off their feet with their money, looks, or status. Except you're in the position of the poor shmuck who watches it happen rather than the female lead who is portraying it as a fairy tale.
NTR with multiple partners is the true debauchery.
Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
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Kubel is definitely top-tier in the NTR genre. No debate about that.
The reason it’s not as popular as other games is that it’s too genuine of an NTR game.
A lot of people don’t actually want honest, gradual NTR but fast-food NTR.
I hate using the term, but "NTR tourists" are a very real thing.
They love the taboo idea of NTR more than how well it’s actually implemented.
And they are averse to reading if it’s not dialog that advances the H. That’s why RPG Makers and animated games are always trending over traditional VNs.
I’ve seen some really amazing takes like "NTR Phone" and "NTR Legend" being called masterpieces of the genre.
That’s like calling wrestlers the best fighters ever. ><
But you don’t have to take my word for it. Just have a look at Kubel’s F95 thread.
What’s the most common complaint?
That there are no H-scenes within the first few hours of the game.
The attention spans of modern H-gamers are truly lamentable.
The reason it’s not as popular as other games is that it’s too genuine of an NTR game.
A lot of people don’t actually want honest, gradual NTR but fast-food NTR.
I hate using the term, but "NTR tourists" are a very real thing.
They love the taboo idea of NTR more than how well it’s actually implemented.
And they are averse to reading if it’s not dialog that advances the H. That’s why RPG Makers and animated games are always trending over traditional VNs.
I’ve seen some really amazing takes like "NTR Phone" and "NTR Legend" being called masterpieces of the genre.
That’s like calling wrestlers the best fighters ever. ><
But you don’t have to take my word for it. Just have a look at Kubel’s F95 thread.
What’s the most common complaint?
That there are no H-scenes within the first few hours of the game.
The attention spans of modern H-gamers are truly lamentable.
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literally the last girl on the right is exact copy of Rem from Re:Zero, she just has dark hair
Oh nvm the update is cosplay, makes sense now
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What are the other top 3 be then?
Personally on my list of best RPGM I only got Fallen Makina and Survival Mission Z on the same level as Kubel ...
Except when you have just one bull the story is better, almost ALWAYS you got a WAY better story when you only have one bull ...At the risk of my non-existent reputation, I'm going to put out an opinion that will probably have 90 percent of people roast my ass.
NTR games with only one partner/bull are mid. Most of them end up sounding like the average female drama where another guy sweeps them off their feet with their money, looks, or status. Except you're in the position of the poor shmuck who watches it happen rather than the female lead who is portraying it as a fairy tale.
NTR with multiple partners is the true debauchery.
Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
Yes but from the plot you see why is considered a ntr game despite FeMC
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Makina isn’t NTR.
It's just corruption since the FMC isn’t in a relationship.Survival Mission Z is pretty decent, though girl still falls way too fast like typical RPGM games. Like second or third scene she's already corrupted and liking it. *cries*
My definitions of NTR are pretty strict though. I don't even consider Scars of Summer a true NTR because nothing really feels "stolen." FMC doesn't show strong feelings for MC and the MC is sorta wishy-washy in his actions.
And yes, NTR stories are almost always better with less characters. Adding an extra character is a HUGE investment. For example, I'm still paying for the sins of adding Shiori (second FMC in my game). It takes up a LOT of voice lines, art, and resources to add her in without diminishing Akari's presence. But I love both FMCs, so…
But yeah, there are always people bitching not having enough characters. For example, I got complaints about using silhouettes instead of having drawn NPC sprites… like it doesn't cost me hundreds per character.
I promise you, if I get $5k/month, I will get hand-drawn NPC sprites hehe. But not when I’m barely staying afloat! T_T
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Yes, scars of summer actually falls into BSS genre but that's still a sub category of NTR at the end of the day.Makina isn’t NTR.
Survival Mission Z is pretty decent, though girl still falls way too fast like typical RPGM games. Like second or third scene she's already corrupted and liking it. *cries*
My definitions of NTR are pretty strict though. I don't even consider Scars of Summer a true NTR because nothing really feels "stolen." FMC doesn't show strong feelings for MC and the MC is sorta wishy-washy in his actions.
And yes, NTR stories are almost always better with less characters. Adding an extra character is a HUGE investment. For example, I'm still paying for the sins of adding Shiori (second FMC in my game). It takes up a LOT of voice lines, art, and resources to add her in without diminishing Akari's presence. But I love both FMCs, so…
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But yeah, there are always people bitching not having enough characters. For example, I got complaints about using silhouettes instead of having drawn NPC sprites… like it doesn't cost me hundreds per character.
I promise you, if I get $5k/month, I will get hand-drawn NPC sprites hehe. But not when I’m barely staying afloat! T_T
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Said nothing about NTR, i said RPGM and honestly to me if it's hot I don't care about what genre it falls on.Makina isn’t NTR.
Since honestly Kubel is top 3 if we are talking about RPGM format ALONE.
If we are talking in "general" with no holds barred across all format then Kubel doesn't land anywhere near top 20, maybe not even top 30
On my profile i rank the games i play and complete. (Due to letter cap i ask that you don't reply under there)
on the netorase path yes.
on ntr path it takes a while, it's a slow burn on that path.
ehm absolutely no, maybe you don't remember the first game well. FeMC is shown to be completely head over hills towards MC, they are both in genuine love for each other but just no officially in a relationship. The appeal of that game is quite similar to Kubel actually (and i don't remember since it's been a while, but in Kubel too are they officially engaged or it's the exact same situation as in scars?)
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We need to talk about how Luxoria would be even more acclaimed if it had at least a 7 star artwork
Brother you are the only one rage baiting. What exactly about My… is so bad that you hate it so much? Its art is good, premise is unique, and has a load of content despite being less than 30% finished. What exactly is wrong with the game?
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Agree. But my reasons is I like gangbang content. The female characters have 2 holes (or 3 holes if you including the mouth) that can be used during the act, so 1 female character can potentially interact with 3 dicks or more.
Efficiency is the name of the game!
You also have to consider the average audience of NTR- Gooners. Most people want to fap without overthinking. Maybe some want spicy feelings accompanying the fap, but most aren't looking for some deep characterization or portrayal of NTR. For many, NTR is just another brand and/or fetish. No different from vanilla, tentacles, etc.
The rare few who do would just read an adult novel with adultery instead where story usually takes precedence over erotica.
The demands of modern H-gamers I'd argue have never changed. There are simply more of them. And the majority of those, just like any form of entertainment, primarily consist of casuals. Casuals not looking for mind-blowing or genre defining works that advance the medium, but "good enough" works that let them wank without much effort.
Devs aiming to make a game that fully takes advantage of the NTR genre will have to take solace with the fact that they are developing something for a niche audience of an already niche genre.
When you guys talk about Kubel I feel that I have played a version of Curse of Kubel different that you have played... I am not going to say it's a bad game or something since I am no one to say that and I don't like to criticize other works... But I will just say I didn't really liked Kubel and I really didn't feel the NTR in it (I didn't finished the game though)
It was my favorite "NTR" game for a long time, it's sad that I didn't like Amor Magical Academy that much