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[cIoseopenbrutal]

I have a question for this community and I want to know if I'm alone or not...
I think NTR game are by essence only male protagonist and 95% of the time if it's a female protagonist it's just cheating with more steps...
Moreover, It's NTR only if can stand against it, fight for it! Not just watch...because watching your girlfriend fuck someone else without doing anything is cuckolding...
So? I'm the only one with that definition?

As long as the MC's love interest is being taken away from him, that's the essence of ntr for me. It's literally the meaning of ntr. You don't need to fight for it, since most ntr games are the ones where the mc is oblivious about the things happening.

You might say it's cheating, but as the definition of the ntr , it still applies.
And if it happens in the game, I dont really care if the mc cant fight back against the bull, I dont insert myself as the MC in the first place, so why do I care if he's a loser that cant do anything to protect his love interest.

I respect your own interpretation of ntr , but for me , I just follow the general definition of the genre and work it from there.

 

[melantha]

I think NTR game are by essence only male protagonist and 95% of the time if it's a female protagonist it's just cheating with more steps...

To me, the point is that there needs to be a romantic interest between two people, then a third+ wheel comes in to snatch. Also regardless if it was a male or female (although most are male POV, with fmc stolen).

There are also female POV, with romantic interest and the male is treated more like a side-character, and to me that still feels like NTR. (i say female/male, but this could also apply ff or mm, but you get the gist)

However, there are female POVs with no romatic interest, no male mc that the viewer can relate / use as POV, and those are not NTR in my eyes. I feel like many games these days use this as an excuse just to avoid the NTR tag. no NTR if there's no male in the first place.

In short, regardless of how it happens, I feel one is NTR if there was a romantic interest, and one is snatched away. it only becomes cheating if the romantic interest is a romantic relationship (take note of difference). because a love "crush" can still be NTR without cheating.

Moreover, It's NTR only if can stand against it, fight for it! Not just watch...because watching your girlfriend fuck someone else without doing anything is cuckolding...
So? I'm the only one with that definition?

To me it doesn't need to be fought over by protagonist. This logic invalidates commonly accepted NTR themes including wimp protags, hidden NTR, late discovery NTR, and the like, which many aficionados seem to like these days. I read the SAO game is like that? I haven't really played it myself so dont quote me on it.

You're probably defining it closer to vndb's

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. There are multiple types, but all of them are NTR.

 

[gabich69]

I wonder if someone can make NTR RPG games with animation and with classic 90s animation style because the word NTR didn’t exist in those days it was just bad ending where the heroine was corrupted by a pervert with a big dick I hope who reads this would think on it. I’m going to show you what 90s anime NTR remake should be like if it was made by showing you old anime art View attachment 2609660

Where can i find this manga/ anime? Do you have a website to share?
And btw did you like it?

 

[Rubyrosesilver22]

Where can i find this manga/ anime? Do you have a website to share?
And btw did you like it?

It’s artbook story

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I do like it i kinda wish some people still make games with art style like this today still or hentai rpg a modern retro H RPG with old anime style

 

[gabich69]

It’s artbook story

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I do like it i kinda wish some people still make games with art style like this today still or hentai rpg a modern retro H RPG with old anime style

fuck i cant open this hentai website. But thanks i'll try to find it somewhere else

 

[duy832075]

fuck i cant open this hentai website. But thanks i'll try to find it somewhere else

change your DNS to 1.1.1.1

 

[S3vatari0n]

I have a question for this community and I want to know if I'm alone or not...
I think NTR game are by essence only male protagonist and 95% of the time if it's a female protagonist it's just cheating with more steps...
Moreover, It's NTR only if can stand against it, fight for it! Not just watch...because watching your girlfriend fuck someone else without doing anything is cuckolding...
So? I'm the only one with that definition?

PS: A good cheating story can be good, I don't deny that, but for me if you sold me a NTR story, this is what I expect!

For me, all forms of NTR must involve emotional betrayal and destruction (and here's the important part) of the relationships the characters in game have, not the player's feelings. Whether its the MC feeling like "their LI" is betraying their relationship, or the MC feeling like they are betraying their relationship or both at the same time, at least one of those two needs to happen for it to be ntr. The characters' actions around that emotion of betrayal are just the method to deliver that feeling, whether it involves fighting back or not.

This is also why I can view FeMC games as NTR as well, because it involves the FeMC betraying and destroying a relationship she supposedly cherished.

 

[Kazaim]

For me, all forms of NTR must involve emotional betrayal and destruction (and here's the important part) of the relationships the characters in game have, not the player's feelings. Whether its the MC feeling like "their LI" is betraying their relationship, or the MC feeling like they are betraying their relationship or both at the same time, at least one of those two needs to happen for it to be ntr. The characters' actions around that emotion of betrayal are just the method to deliver that feeling, whether it involves fighting back or not.

This is also why I can view FeMC games as NTR as well, because it involves the FeMC betraying and destroying a relationship she supposedly cherished.

The problem becomes the "Betrayal" and "Destruction", coupled with the enforcement of "Corruption" when that isn't solely the reason. Living beings have desires, some more slaves to them than others, and at times, instincts.

If the act of "Netorare" is just "Corruption" or/and attached with emotions and betrayals, and ignoring Desires entirely. The magic is lost. And we are just creating simple excuses with a lot of boring writing you skip over to the naughty and emotional parts, than what can go from 1 to 99 fast, or sometimes, simmering like a slow-burning oven waiting to catch fire and suddenly there's flames. We have lost the important bits why "Netorare" was different than just straight up "Drama Cheating".

The act should be handled cautiously. Don't forget that sometimes, the LI just wants good sex, sometimes pain, sometimes cause they are turned on by the act. Not always seduction, brainwashing, blackmail or such. We humans aren't much different than Animals at times, and likes the repulsive fatman blessed with a massive dick and beachball sacks. We have a lot of hidden parts of us too, that our Boyfriend/Girlfriend don't know about (sometimes not even ourselfs are aware of it). Yes, we humans are weird like that.

 

[SharkVampire]

I think all this speculation about what games in the genre should be like excludes the most important aspect. Any work in any genre is a projection of the author's perception. If you try to squeeze everything into certain frameworks, you will kill off the creative component, and in this way you will create pale copies that not really different from each other. While people here agree on what they want games in this genre to be, that doesn't mean everyone else will like them as well. Personally, I like NTR for completely different aspects. I'm not a big fan of mental self-harm and therefore each case is different for me. In some games, I imagine myself as a villain and want to corrupt the main heroine, in others I just feel like an observer of the story, in others, I really empathize with the heroine and if there is an opportunity to save her I do. It gives me a sense of challenge, and overcoming those difficulties gives me a real sense of victory at the end. Harem games usually don't do that for me. And of course the drama, which I also like. So I think if there are any aspiring developers out there reading this, don't put yourself in a box. Do what you would like to play yourself.

 

[Kulman]

While they usually hit a lot less, I can see why some games with femc should classify as ntr and can be a nice thing for ntr enjoyers. Alansya chronicles for example lean into the ntr pretty heavily imo. It must be the centre of the focus. It should be talked about in the scenes, it should be what the story revolves around (curse of kubel also comes to mind).

The way to NOT do it is have the game tell you in 2 sentences that the femc has a boyfriends "somewhere", or we see the boyfriend for like 5 seconds and 5 minutes in the femc is getting porked.

A lot of hate for femc ntr games comes from that second group imo, because there are SO MANY of them, they are usually lazy and bad, but they are tagged netorare all the same so they get our hopes up.

 

[LordFrz]

While they usually hit a lot less, I can see why some games with femc should classify as ntr and can be a nice thing for ntr enjoyers. Alansya chronicles for example lean into the ntr pretty heavily imo. It must be the centre of the focus. It should be talked about in the scenes, it should be what the story revolves around (curse of kubel also comes to mind).

The way to NOT do it is have the game tell you in 2 sentences that the femc has a boyfriends "somewhere", or we see the boyfriend for like 5 seconds and 5 minutes in the femc is getting porked.

A lot of hate for femc ntr games comes from that second group imo, because there are SO MANY of them, they are usually lazy and bad, but they are tagged netorare all the same so they get our hopes up.

The problem for me with FeMC is that when im controlling it I have to make the poor choices, its just not the same.

 

[jaden000]

I Enjoy fmc NTR games only see hate from NTR purist fan with super strict definition but there definitely a lot of poor quality ones for sure unfortunately

 

[Kulman]

The problem for me with FeMC is that when im controlling it I have to make the poor choices, its just not the same.

Thats what I dislike with those games where you gotta grind up "lewdness". I like it to be more inevitable. Complex system could be good in theory, but it seems to almost never be well implemented.

So I much prefer the style of an unstoppable train you can see coming, but cannot stop. Like henteria chronicles (though that is male mc).

 

[Rubyrosesilver22]

Hey does anyone have the trial version of this game

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[stupid_army]

Guys, can you help me finding this old game? I can't find any link

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[nhami]

Guys, can you help me finding this old game? I can't find any link

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I found on anime-sharing and sukebei. There was someone also asking for rascou games. You can also find on anime-sharing and sukebei but you need to search with the japanese title.
Tip: if you can't find a game try searching with the japanese title(not romaji) at anime-sharing, hentai-sharing and sukebei.

 

[Icarus Media]

I'm planning to make a game, but I hear there's alot of negative feedback for NTR.
is it even worth making these days? should devs be afraid?

would certainly appreciate advice from those who've been through, or is actively going through an NTR game development.

should we consider multiple editions from the start, one vanilla, one unhinged? is it worth?

Go for it. The main thing I've found with Netorare or even Netorase (or for some even having another dick appear somewhere in game at all) is simply to be upfront that that is what you are creating. As I write this for example the dev of https://f95zone.to/threads/into-the-wild-ep-8-dicpic-studio.65391/ is getting a few comments from people surprised at the later addition of NTR.

Being upfront won't stop all the negative feedback, but part of being a dev, or even doing anything in life you WILL get negative feedback, and the more you do something, the more impact it has, the more people will come out to target you. If you aren't thick skinned, it's something that you will have to learn. Some never do, there is a thread on here where a dev actually quit because of the comments and they still kept commenting until a mod stepped in.

Being upfront, and admittedly lurking around some of them before I seem to have escaped a LOT of it. Should you be afraid? Nah, remember this is just online, you can always do what some do and ignore, or just log off occasionally. Just remember this is online, step back occasionally and do stuff in the real world and you settle down and can simply get back to it. I get occasional negative feedback, some I do listen to, such as adding a gallery (which I'm going to do), others is nonsense like "hurdy gurdy MC is a cuck", those I ignore, I just log off, go to gym, do a class, read a book, remember everything I have and what I didn't before, why I started and all the stuff I've created. End of the day those with feedback that works are cherished, even negative they give me stuff to make my stuff better, I love those people because even if negative they care enough to want to improve the game the way they think it could be improved, and hey sometimes I agree, those just whining, insulting and being pricks are like dogs and remember:

'You will get nowhere down the road to your goals, if along the way, you stop at every dog that barks' Winston Churchill.

 

[stupid_army]

I found on anime-sharing and sukebei. There was someone also asking for rascou games. You can also find on anime-sharing and sukebei but you need to search with the japanese title.
Tip: if you can't find a game try searching with the japanese title(not romaji) at anime-sharing, hentai-sharing and sukebei.

Yeah... that's the problem. All links on anime-sharing are dead, same with Hentai-sharing, and the torrent doesn't have seed anymore.


The only working link is the MTL one...

 

[ChaosXD]

I saw that they removed the NTR from Breeding Farm (due to rewriting the plot I think). Do you think they will put it back or not?

 

[Febui]

Do you think they will put it back or not?

The writer of the one specific scene that had NTR was unhappy about the quality of it, as there was no build up and no payoff, it was just kind of shoehorned in.
No effort establishing the relationship or having a fallout of the event. They never liked it being there, but they aren't the project dev, so it wasn't there call to do anything about that for a long time.
Then the dev decided to remove it, for whatever reason that might be.
I agree that it wasn't good NTR, so it's better to remove it, but at the same time I'm not very confident they'll add any new NTR any time soon.
The writer might be willing if the dev wanted to do it, but the dev will likely prioritize anything else since it's such a contentious genre.
So, some line of reasoning like "We could write new, actually good NTR, but we have a dozen things we need to do that more of our audience will like..."
I'd say it's not coming back any time soon. Maybe one day.