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[cIoseopenbrutal]

Hero Party Must Fall is in the top 5 NTR of this year, easily. It's a Netori game if we get specific, but of course, a Netori game is still technically a NTR game.

How's the progress of the game so far? Is it getting better and better? You got an estimate about the time it may be finished?

I guess the only thing that I kinda dont like is the Trap being in dev's plans. I hope it wont be implemented, but if it does, I'll just simply skip that part of the content, no big deal.

 

[Zadke]

Also, found another dev on Pixiv -

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It took him 3 years to feel like resume the game but alas even If he never resurrected that project I think his drawings and the depiction of seria and secilia are good enough btw if anyone wants to see his works I often update his profile in kemono

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[ThatGuy_Shaggy]

How's the progress of the game so far? Is it getting better and better? You got an estimate about the time it may be finished?

I guess the only thing that I kinda dont like is the Trap being in dev's plans. I hope it wont be implemented, but if it does, I'll just simply skip that part of the content, no big deal.

It's progressing really well, and the Dev updates consistently and relatively often. Definitely not the sort of dev that milks super long and uselessly. A few hours of gameplay, or at least it took me a few hours to complete all the current content. I'd estimate it'd be another year before the game is finished, perhaps more, because there is a decent amount of content the dev wants to do. What is there is really fun though, and the content is top tier. Actual characters with depth, an interesting story, a main netori character who isn't just a walking talking dick.

As for Trap, I'm not sure what you're talking about tbh. I'd assume you're talking about Erin, but Erin isn't going to be a trap, he's literally gonna be gender-swapped completely. I mean really, whats more cuck like then being turned into a girl and fucked by the superior dude.

 

[critic specialized in NTR]

because its not "my girl" to me. I don't get my jollies off by imagining myself as the cuck, because personally, I'm not a cuck. I don't relate to the cuck, despite of course me being "in their shoes". I view the cuck as a completely different character, and I'm moreso piloting their actions. Same goes with the chick, I don't view her as "mine" really, rather I know its the main characters girl. Besides, I don't take it personally, because the girls belong to the streets 90% of the time. She could go fuck the entire neighborhood for all I care, a hoe is gonna do what a hoe does.

I moreso enjoy the tabooness of it all, which is normally what porn games boil down to. Seeing the methodical situation in which a dude steals a weaker/unsuspecting dudes girlfriend. If I do feel myself feeling some sorta way about a NTR, (which a good NTR game should do), its not because I'm personally offended, its because I feel bad for the main character.

If I had one sentence that could sumn up how I feel 99% of the time playing a NTR game, it'd be:

"Me personally? This could NEVER happen to me.."

yes I feel the same way, at first I thought it was banal that I liked Netorare, but little by little I realized that I liked it and period, but I always knew how to separate fiction from reality, because I definitely can't imagine myself being the cuckold NTR classic. It's a stupid question, but valid on specific subjects maybe, it depends on each individual, because I can like to play an NTR and I can also like to be cuckold in real life, in the same way that you can ask the question for an incest game , you want to fuck your own mother in real life like the MC in the game? the individual will hardly answer yes, at least the hypocrites who are NTR haters will answer the same thing, "don't you know how to separate fiction from real life?".

 

[LordFrz]

It's progressing really well, and the Dev updates consistently and relatively often. Definitely not the sort of dev that milks super long and uselessly. A few hours of gameplay, or at least it took me a few hours to complete all the current content. I'd estimate it'd be another year before the game is finished, perhaps more, because there is a decent amount of content the dev wants to do. What is there is really fun though, and the content is top tier. Actual characters with depth, an interesting story, a main netori character who isn't just a walking talking dick.

As for Trap, I'm not sure what you're talking about tbh. I'd assume you're talking about Erin, but Erin isn't going to be a trap, he's literally gonna be gender-swapped completely. I mean really, whats more cuck like then being turned into a girl and fucked by the superior dude.

Im 99% sure Erin isnt going to be gender swapped. Just putting a guy in a dress doesnt mean his dick fell off.

 

[cIoseopenbrutal]

It's progressing really well, and the Dev updates consistently and relatively often. Definitely not the sort of dev that milks super long and uselessly. A few hours of gameplay, or at least it took me a few hours to complete all the current content. I'd estimate it'd be another year before the game is finished, perhaps more, because there is a decent amount of content the dev wants to do. What is there is really fun though, and the content is top tier. Actual characters with depth, an interesting story, a main netori character who isn't just a walking talking dick.

That's good to know.Hope we got a few different endings.

As for Trap, I'm not sure what you're talking about tbh. I'd assume you're talking about Erin, but Erin isn't going to be a trap, he's literally gonna be gender-swapped completely. I mean really, whats more cuck like then being turned into a girl and fucked by the superior dude.

Yeah, was talking about that. Because I still see on his Dev notes on the OP that there's a Trap Tag planned in it. If he somehow gets a TS, then yeah, maybe Im ok with that. Im just hoping it wont stay as a trap.

 

[zebucetiva]

Not enough people talked about

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Did everyone felt so relaxed after playing it nobody had the strength to talk about it? lol
I'd easily put it on my top 1 ntr games released this year.
The dev completely destroyed my opinion about the faceless NTR dudes being boring enough to bring down a game completely.

I already replayed 3 times, the last time that happened to me was with Scars of Summer. It's a perfect example of how should NTR games be made. The story progression is really easy and understandable, no need to grind anything and the games even 'punish' you for avoiding going into dungeons giving you NTR scenes that happened while they advanced without you and then when you come with them you get some NTR scenes without MC realizing what is happening.
The game even teases you and makes you think it's over but thats when the best part of the game starts. One of the only times I bought a game on dlsite and actually wanted to pay atleast 20$.

It's extremeeeeeeeeeely good. Should be used as NTR RPGMaker 101 for all devs to learn the basics of what gives NTR games their essence.

Thank you very much.
I was giving a flying fuck for this game, but after your comment makes me at least download it.
This game is a gem, definitely on top 3 2023. One of the few game that made me feel something while playing (besides hardons). Everyone should play it.

 

[LordFrz]

Thank you very much.
I was giving a flying fuck for this game, but after your comment makes me at least download it.
This game is a gem, definitely on top 3 2023. One of the few game that made me feel something while playing (besides hardons). Everyone should play it.

I was enjoying it till all the hypnosis and mind control stuff. Kind mea after that to me.

 

[TifasMakesMeNut]

Honestly been having waaay more fun with Koikatsu and find NTR scenes. Found few creators that makes decent ones but yet to find a really good one. Been thinking about doing HS2 aswell but so far what i can find there isn't any creating NTR scenes that i know of. Just might be because i dont wanna play a NTR game where most part its just a onrail game or something you can unlock by repeating what you did over and over.

 

[melantha]

what I've been hearing is that alot of you don't self-insert.
so then you're fine with just female protags with corruption?

I just don't see a third-person perspective here, as most, if not all games have a perspective you have direct control over movement, choices - path of action, you hear inner thoughts of, etc.

mc suffering is you suffering no? I.. I don't get it.

I might be missing something here, you guys might be able to enlighten

 

[LordFrz]

what I've been hearing is that alot of you don't self-insert.
so then you're fine with just female protags with corruption?

I just don't see a third-person perspective here, as most, if not all games have a perspective you have direct control over movement, choices - path of action, you hear inner thoughts of, etc.

mc suffering is you suffering no? I.. I don't get it.

I might be missing something here, you guys might be able to enlighten

I'm literally behind a computer screen bro. In one, I'm watching the girl make decisions to be a slut. In the other im watchin a guy losing his girl. That's the main difference.

But not everybody is the same, so you will probably never understand it, because your frame of reference just doesn't line up with how some others view it.

I may be controlling the characters, but im not in the game. Which is why when I play a game that needs you to play poorly to get NTR kinda suck to me. I want to play perfectly but the MC still gets his girl stolen by the ugly bastards. But even though im controlling the MC, its still not my girl.

If you still don't see it that way, you will never see the way I do. That's fine and all, nothing wrong with that. Just different views on things.

It's like how I like playing hot girls in mmorpgs. While I got a buddy who wants a beefy muscle dude. My buddy sees himself as the beefy dude, but I do NOT see myself as a hot anime girl.

 

[Pretentious Goblin]

so then you're fine with just female protags with corruption?

Yes.

I just don't see a third-person perspective here, as most, if not all games have a perspective you have direct control over movement, choices - path of action, you hear inner thoughts of, etc.

mc suffering is you suffering no? I.. I don't get it.

I might be missing something here, you guys might be able to enlighten

Just because you control a MC doesn't mean you can or want to relate to them. Maybe you're playing something like Fashion Business, where the MC is already a bitch and you can make her be even moreso, so that she gets punished more later. Maybe you're playing something like Absolute Power Corruption, where the MC is a total psycho and you make him do evil things just to see what happens.

In a more typical female-MC game, where e.g. the MC is encouraged to let customers grope her so she gets more tips to afford rent; maybe you can relate to that, maybe you can't. Maybe you're a sadistic bastard who wants to see the MC degraded and sexualized against her will. Maybe you like the fantasy of letting strangers grope you for money but would never do it IRL. Maybe you're a corruption enjoyer and want to see her thought process as she talks herself into it. There's more than one way of enjoying these games.

 

[cIoseopenbrutal]

what I've been hearing is that alot of you don't self-insert.
so then you're fine with just female protags with corruption?

Idk about that , I've seen some people here that doesnt like female protags. But I think the majority here are ok with it, including myself.

 

[Kulman]

what I've been hearing is that alot of you don't self-insert.
so then you're fine with just female protags with corruption?

I just don't see a third-person perspective here, as most, if not all games have a perspective you have direct control over movement, choices - path of action, you hear inner thoughts of, etc.

mc suffering is you suffering no? I.. I don't get it.

I might be missing something here, you guys might be able to enlighten

Ever heard about the genre of tragedy? I feel kinda the same way with ntr. I do not need to self insert to have a strong emotional reaction. But the strong emotional reaction is not bad. Art should incite emotions. They dont need to be "feel good".

I also would never want ntr in real life. But you need to look at the fact that we know games and movies are not real. So we only get a certain % of immersion. By looking at stuff that is taboo and would be over our tolerance in real life, we make the washed down porn more potent, nearing the % of immersion you would get from normal sex in real life.

At least thats the way I look at it and why stuff like incest porn is so popular.

 

[Kulman]

Idk about that , I've seen some people here that doesnt like female protags. But I think the majority here are ok with it, including myself.

If youre going for fem protag, get inspired from Scar's of Summer. It's still one of the best fem protag ntr game imo. That's why there's a few games that follow his footsteps. (Though, most of them missed the mark. Esp since it's their first game)

Scars of summer arent really fem protag though?

 

[cIoseopenbrutal]

Scars of summer arent really fem protag though?

Yeah thats why i abruptly removed it lol

Was just at the Scars of Summer thread so for some reason I added that in my statement beforehand. Kinda sucks that the game is being pushed back for a while again. But heh, what can we do.

 

[YubiYubi]

what I've been hearing is that alot of you don't self-insert.
so then you're fine with just female protags with corruption?

I just don't see a third-person perspective here, as most, if not all games have a perspective you have direct control over movement, choices - path of action, you hear inner thoughts of, etc.

mc suffering is you suffering no? I.. I don't get it.

I might be missing something here, you guys might be able to enlighten

Don't think much about it and just play the world as is, the only power you have is to give the characters a choice/s in which the direction of the story will go. if your mental is not strong and cant handle it, you can always alt f4. i have a strong mental thats why i enjoy the story as is and leaving no emotion's behind. but hey thats just me

 

[melantha]

yea it might be something out of my perspective, kind of like the white-gold vs black-blue dress. while you might want to understand the other side, it doesn't mean you'll be able to see it in the end.

though I do have a question, do you guys remember the NTR in darling in the franxx, but it was the other couple, and I understand it in the third-person perspective. however, I assume it would not hit as much (it actually did not trip my triggers) as if you would imagine zero two being the one stolen.

if it was a game, in technical terms it passes to have NTR tag, but I'd assume it's not a game you would celebrate as a great NTR game?

 

[cIoseopenbrutal]

I just don't see a third-person perspective here, as most, if not all games have a perspective you have direct control over movement, choices - path of action, you hear inner thoughts of, etc.

mc suffering is you suffering no? I.. I don't get it.

I might be missing something here, you guys might be able to enlighten

Just try to make a story where you play everyone's emotions. Make them happy , then suddenly make them sad. Or you can gradually build up the emotion from the ground up. You can also do the reverse , where theyre on their peak...then gradually goes rock bottom.

One thing you should avoid, which Im sure you already know is to use hypnosis as part of the plot.Brainwashing can work, if it's done properly. For example mentally tiring the person's motivation and making them cling to bad actors.

 

[cIoseopenbrutal]

yea it might be something out of my perspective, kind of like the white-gold vs black-blue dress. while you might want to understand the other side, it doesn't mean you'll be able to see it in the end.

Just have a clear goal first , before trying to add things. What's gonna be your ideal ending? What's the gameplay loop like? What will drive the story? Having goals would make it easier.

though I do have a question, do you guys remember the NTR in darling in the franxx, but it was the other couple, and I understand it in the third-person perspective. however, I assume it would not hit as much (it actually did not trip my triggers) as if you would imagine zero two being the one stolen.

Fan of studio TRIGGER , but the show was too mediocre that I barely remember everything about it if im being honest.