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helllover

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From the demo its seem you choose what ending you had from the previous game, and it picks up from there.
I'm pretty sure that it's actually a mix of both normal/good and bad ending depending on how it goes, from what the demo showed, it seems that has a far more different start than just picking a ending since there are relationship points again.

Also from what I hope, we get to see more of the other girls also get fucked depending on the path, while I know the sister is getting more content as well, I hope that the other students finally get actual content instead of a dialogue change.
 

LordFrz

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I mean , if it's optional to see those 3 early scenes , then I guess you just need to avoid them to not ruin the experience for yourself. Either way, I already know what to expect from this game, and Im still gonna enjoy it either way. The only thing that will kinda ruin it for me (but not too much) is when 2 or 3 of the routes has gangbang scenes again.



Always amusing to see people in ntr threads like you who still dont know ntr basics.
Yea, But choosing not to see them does not mean they didnt happen. I would also have to not get the perks to see where she is or the one that tells you whats happening to her. Is what it is, just not a game for me. The art was good on its own though, so just poping into the gallery is at least worth doing. From the demo I pretty much knew how it was gonna go, so no big deal.
 

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Wrong, You don't lose your mother because she fucks your dad. You are 100% ok with your sister getting a cool boyfriend, no NTR. You haven't lost your sister or mother, they are still the same and in your life. But a shit bag fat bastard comes in and takes your sister and mom, and they change and are no longer the people you have in your life then it's NTR.

Liking a girl that barely knows you, who then gets a boyfriend is not NTR, the new term for that popin up would be BSS. Now, you build that relationship a bit, she a close friend for a long time, her and mc hang out all the time ect. Then she becomes some dudes cum dump, then yes, because you have "lost" that old relationship. NTR is a loss, it doesn't have to be MC missing out on a wet dick.
What? So as long as the guy is ugly and a asshole then its NTR. But if its nice guy its not NTR? Never seen a stupid comment -.-
 

kotfpp

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Actually it does. Only this would make sense. There is a girl I like but never spoke with her and she finds a boyfriend... is this NTR for you? My father fucks my mother... is this NTR for you? As long as there is no relationship its not NTR.
You've described BSS here and it's generally considered to be a subgenre within NTR. An explicit sexual relationship isn't required. You can dislike it all you want but it is what it is.
 

melantha

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imo it's not about losing the personalities you know, even if they're the same people
game starts, your sister gets corrupted, she's no longer aika or whatever, so what?

what we need is character development, whoever it is, no matter how they get corrupted

when you get attached to a character, just the simple fact she's out of map, somewhere, and some suspense BGM plays, oh you're getting anxious.

while most of the time overlaps, the essence of NTR is still different from corruption
 

LordFrz

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What? So as long as the guy is ugly and a asshole then its NTR. But if its nice guy its not NTR? Never seen a stupid comment -.-
You have a loving mom, she bakes you cookies every day. But she gets a new boss at work, this boss is a gigachad, he's hot, and super nice and everybody loves him. Well, he turns your loving mom into a cum guzzling slut who only thinks about getting fucked by him. All you hear at night is the sounds of your mom getting assfucked nonstop. She no longer bakes you cookies, and she barely even acknowledges you are alive. That's NTR, you no longer have a kind loving mom who makes you cookies.

inb4 "So if she makes you hot pockets that NTR?"
 

Diablos

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I am trying to remember a game I played a while ago. Male MC lived with his GF, one day her friend moves in. At the start you clean his room while he is chatting with GF in kitchen. There are several routes where MC is ignorant, one where she starts humiliating him, NTRS etc. It was made in RPG maker with 3D models(honey select I think). Anyone knows? I think it was one of the games that where promising but slowly dissapeared.
 

LordFrz

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imo it's not about losing the personalities you know, even if they're the same people
game starts, your sister gets corrupted, she's no longer aika or whatever, so what?

what we need is character development, whoever it is, no matter how they get corrupted

when you get attached to a character, just the simple fact she's out of map, somewhere, and some suspense BGM plays, oh you're getting anxious.

while most of the time overlaps, the essence of NTR is still different from corruption
Yea, it's the connection that needs to be lost. If you don't give a shit about your sister you probably don't care how she changes. It's establishing that connection that most crappy NTR forget to do.

The best NTR for me is when you do everything right. You get a good character relationship established. A good example is Lean 2.

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And I completely agree, while it overlaps a lot, just corruption is not NTR. Too many NTR tagged games end up just being a girl who turns into a super slut without really getting the connection with the MC built up first.
 

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I am trying to remember a game I played a while ago. Male MC lived with his GF, one day her friend moves in. At the start you clean his room while he is chatting with GF in kitchen. There are several routes where MC is ignorant, one where she starts humiliating him, NTRS etc. It was made in RPG maker with 3D models(honey select I think). Anyone knows? I think it was one of the games that where promising but slowly dissapeared.
Probably this
https://f95zone.to/threads/holding-hands-v0-39-kirantiplayer.88368/
 

kotfpp

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Damn, I really dislike BSS. There's no connection at all. I feel like it's closer to voyeur than ntr.
It does skew heavily to voyeurism but that's something that's already pretty core to most works in some way or another, and there's still enough of a feeling of loss that it fits. If there was some kind of spectrum it would be way off at an edge. NTR is both a wide genre and extremely polarizing so it only makes sense that just about anyone can find some aspect they don't like.
 

Animefan_09

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What? So as long as the guy is ugly and a asshole then its NTR. But if its nice guy its not NTR? Never seen a stupid comment -.-
No, on the other hand if the MC that is supposed to be witht he girl is an asshole then i personally don't consider that ntr, there are works like that where the husband is an ass but honestly if the guy deserves it that is not ntr for me.
 
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fuckyoutoo22

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No, on the other hand if the MC that is supposed to be witht he girl is an asshole then i personally don't consider that ntr, there are works like that where the husband is an ass but honestly if the guy deserves it that is not ntr for me.
Agreed. Not that the others haven't already done a good job explaining what the genre is, but I'm also going to throw my two cents at it. The element of unfairness is fundamental to the definition of NTR. While it doesn't completly break away with genre, I too consider the attempt to make the affair a payback by the wife as diluting the strenght of game/story.

Going further, and maybe more subjectively, I think this should be extended as to include other ways this may happen besides the "asshole husband" situation.

Again, my humble opnion, but games with stories where there is a biological issue(husband has a small peepee or can't impregnate wife) help make the act too much in the realm of "reasonable" or "justifiable". I also find games with stories that scrutinize too much the husband's/boyfriend's psychological profile(looking at you Hero Party Must Fail), giving them serious intimacy or social issues help softening the outrageousness of the affair.

Trying to summarize all that I said, NTR games should always aim at making you feel "he doesn't deserve this", rather than "he deserves this" or "this is to be expected".
 

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All this shouting, name calling, and general unpleasantness over some bullshit JP writing that it'll never happen in real life.

Most women do not become cum dumps cock sleeves. They require emotional manipulation, gifts, an inherent lack of self esteem, to become "in love" with a bad guy. JP games and their bad writing has brain washed an entire generation of NTR gamers thinking you can "fuck a girl so she can't get enough", same thinking where guys think they can "fuck lesbians straight".

A realistic NTR is one where your mother dates a douchebag. Here, you can tell her he' a douchebag and if she's like any normal moms, she'll trust your word over his despite how good the sex is. OR she can placate you and secretly does it anyway because 1) he's hot, 2)she has low self-esteem and she thinks this is as good as it gets and 3) he has money and she likes money.

Either way if she continues to date him, mom has lost my respect and really is it really NTR? It's just sad and it's very common. Not sexy at all. It's just pathetic.

Now if he's ugly. Well why would Mom settle for ugly fat fuck cheeto dick cheese man? If she's hot, capable, intellectual? Either way it seems like most NTR writers and consumers just haven't matured out of the "my mom got a divorce and I don't like my step dad" phase.
 

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All this shouting, name calling, and general unpleasantness over some bullshit JP writing that it'll never happen in real life.

Most women do not become cum dumps cock sleeves. They require emotional manipulation, gifts, an inherent lack of self esteem, to become "in love" with a bad guy. JP games and their bad writing has brain washed an entire generation of NTR gamers thinking you can "fuck a girl so she can't get enough", same thinking where guys think they can "fuck lesbians straight".

A realistic NTR is one where your mother dates a douchebag. Here, you can tell her he' a douchebag and if she's like any normal moms, she'll trust your word over his despite how good the sex is. OR she can placate you and secretly does it anyway because 1) he's hot, 2)she has low self-esteem and she thinks this is as good as it gets and 3) he has money and she likes money.

Either way if she continues to date him, mom has lost my respect and really is it really NTR? It's just sad and it's very common. Not sexy at all. It's just pathetic.

Now if he's ugly. Well why would Mom settle for ugly fat fuck cheeto dick cheese man? If she's hot, capable, intellectual? Either way it seems like most NTR writers and consumers just haven't matured out of the "my mom got a divorce and I don't like my step dad" phase.
Porn is about fantasies, especially porn games . The reason for making and playing these games is to be able to experience mental fantasies and situations that cannot be experienced in the real world or the chance of it happening is very low.

If we are looking for reason and logic, we should not come to these games at all.

I agree that the logic and reality of a story can make the game more interesting, but sometimes the logic of the story and the characters can make many of the events that are supposed to be seen in the game impossible.
 

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NGOD-200 seems to be the most interesting NTR Jav coming from the studio Jet Eizou this year and it'll be published 12/12/2023.

The story is about a young streamer couple buying a house at a village. While their streamer business booms with all the rural area content they produce, they become fast friends with an old, rich farmer who brings gifts to them. Everything is going good until the husband start noticing changes at his wife. Also, a woman who looks like his wife starts posting naughty videos to porn streamer sites. Now, that story will make a good game too, especially if the streaming parts are done well.

Anyway, here is the trailer:
 
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