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Yambidexter

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When I have to make the decision to get NTRd it has no impact.
1000% true. Defeats the purpose. That's alone why for me for instance Scars of Summer is nothing more than a decent game - you have to run around and initiate NTR with guys of your choice yourself.

I'd like though games to have avoidable NTR and good ending but NTR to be so hard to avoid that you're essentially bound to get NTRed unless you give it the game another playthrough knowing all the mechanics, something like Nebel Geistejager as Cleanfeel described it once, though I am yet to play it (smth. like by the time you fully understand the dating/game mechanics and where to find FMC she already gets fucked by the chad or is about to be).

P.S. Having a blast for a 3rd day in a row with Wife's Phone. Couldn't run it on Android though but it'd be nice as the main game interface looks exactly like a phone. Lots of branches - can corrupt wife and make her cheat, or share her, and spy on her mostly through her phone messages (her BBC whore friends corrupt her too, there are her boss, your brother, some random instagram fuckers and more). There are more chicks to fuck or corrupt and even MtF stuff.
 
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Kulman

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I only agree with one thing, ugly looser a big turn down for me to the point that I don't even bother play past the prologue.. People seem to like it, probably because they recognize this fatso in themselves.. I don't see the point when this loser clearly is inferior to the MC is the main bull guy in the game. It's too niche a character archetype.
Definitely can't call the game my GotY, when I get zero stimulation so. Just skipped.
For me I love ugly bastard since it creates a bigger contrast. It makes the corruption even deeper.

Not fat or real ugly in real life, so yeah. I actually think you might dislike it if you ARE fat and ugly. Nobody likes a mirror when they do not look good.
 

Knight6797

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I only agree with one thing, ugly looser a big turn down for me to the point that I don't even bother play past the prologue.. People seem to like it, probably because they recognize this fatso in themselves.. I don't see the point when this loser clearly is inferior to the MC is the main bull guy in the game. It's too niche a character archetype.
Definitely can't call the game my GotY, when I get zero stimulation so. Just skipped.
I don't necessarily think that people like the game because of Inoda (although I like him as a character) but because of it's godlike animation quality and really good execution of mystery NTR
 

Son1cc

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For me I love ugly bastard since it creates a bigger contrast. It makes the corruption even deeper.
But the same contrast is created in the opposite way as well :unsure:
It's not just Ugly bastard it's primarily a loser sub archetype of character which is usually get cheated on, not the other way around. I quite enjoyed with ugly bastard path in the Gaptax game and Divagate though.
You can dislike because you see yourself in it and you can also like it because you see yourself in it, so what one is the right? :WaitWhat:
The emotional attachment usually comes from the latter case, so :HideThePain:
The problem is that with Inoda I don't care just like with MC who always gets cheated on because he resembles it so much.
Anyway I hope Fujino will make a game with different paths at some point.

I don't necessarily think that people like the game because of Inoda (although I like him as a character) but because of it's godlike animation quality and really good execution of mystery NTR
Yes, I was only judging from my personal tastes. The scenes quality are very good indeed.
 
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cleanfeel

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The point I was making isn't relating with Inoda. The point is the GIRL. NTR is always about the GIRL. Your waifu. The girl in an NTR game is ALWAYS front and center in every single promo art.

The fact she likes a fugly loser because of his "big cock" 1) breaks realism, modern Western girls wanting 6 figure salary 6 inch cock, AND 6 feet tall guys 2) means she was a shallow woman who cheated.

The fact is she cheated on the MC for such a dumb reason and falling in love with Inoda for trivial and illogical reason is the why I don't like the game. The whole point leading to corruption and the start of doing sex acts as he feigned heroism to get his ass beaten. He didn't even fight off the thugs, the MC did.

The moment Inoda propositioned the girl to let him touch her tits, a real top class beauty waifu would've laughed awkwardly and walked out of the house. And never talked to him again. Would've went to BF and said "you would not believe what that creep Inoda said to me". Especially if she is shown to be a modern, smart, sex positive girl who isn't like the typical Japanese woman who is a doormat to sexual harassment.

The corruption was done poorly for these reasons. Inoda is simply the circumstances. The FMC is the actor and she is poorly portrayed.
 

LordFrz

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The point I was making isn't relating with Inoda. The point is the GIRL. NTR is always about the GIRL. Your waifu. The girl in an NTR game is ALWAYS front and center in every single promo art.

The fact she likes a fugly loser because of his "big cock" 1) breaks realism, modern Western girls wanting 6 figure salary 6 inch cock, AND 6 feet tall guys 2) means she was a shallow woman who cheated.

The fact is she cheated on the MC for such a dumb reason and falling in love with Inoda for trivial and illogical reason is the why I don't like the game. The whole point leading to corruption and the start of doing sex acts as he feigned heroism to get his ass beaten. He didn't even fight off the thugs, the MC did.

The moment Inoda propositioned the girl to let him touch her tits, a real top class beauty waifu would've laughed awkwardly and walked out of the house. And never talked to him again. Would've went to BF and said "you would not believe what that creep Inoda said to me". Especially if she is shown to be a modern, smart, sex positive girl who isn't like the typical Japanese woman who is a doormat to sexual harassment.

The corruption was done poorly for these reasons. Inoda is simply the circumstances. The FMC is the actor and she is poorly portrayed.
I don't give a shit about realism in a video game.

And if you think girls don't somtimes go for the fat confident loser in real life then you are living in a bubble. It does happen. Especially when they are younger. But again, its game so I don't even factor that into it.
 

BBC King

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I don't give a shit about realism in a video game.

And if you think girls don't somtimes go for the fat confident loser in real life then you are living in a bubble. It does happen. Especially when they are younger. But again, its game so I don't even factor that into it.
That literally never happens. 2 ugly people can hook up with each other and so can 2 fat people but when a objectively attractive woman hooks up with an objectively ugly person the reason is always for money/status/clout not romantic reasons.
 

LordFrz

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That literally never happens. 2 ugly people can hook up with each other and so can 2 fat people but when a objectively attractive woman hooks up with an objectively ugly person the reason is always for money/status/clout not romantic reasons.
I've literally seen it happen. Sure you cant fathom why, but it happens, the world is a big place. Maybe the girl has a fat fetish, maybe she is just insecure. Maybe the guy is hella fun to be around, who knows. I know a guy who is a fat loser who smokes weed all day and just lazes around playing world of warcraft. His wife is an attractive lawyer. No idea why she stays with him, but she does. He doesn't know either, but hes feels he won the lottery. lol

Years ago in university, I knew a 350+lbs dude (dude was as round as you could be and still able to walk), and he was always with a new girl. He was a funny guy, and he was super confident despite the weight, and would just walk up and start conversations with hotties. Guy did eventually lose all the weight when he had a heart attack. Married with several kids now. But he got married before losing the weight, and his wife is not ugly by any means. And again, in university, he was with hotties a lot.

The world is weird, and you can't just judge everything from what you see on TV or the internet. While most of the time I would say your standards apply, there are always outliers that make no sense.
 

cleanfeel

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That literally never happens. 2 ugly people can hook up with each other and so can 2 fat people but when a objectively attractive woman hooks up with an objectively ugly person the reason is always for money/status/clout not romantic reasons.
Our fellow NTR enthusiast lives in a world where fringe minorities represent his world view on female mating habits. Enough said.

There's a reason why not a single male model is "fat positive" aka fat fuck. It's not attractive. Nobody likes it, men or women.

People who dig Inoda and believe he is a good candidate for sexual partner for a high value woman live in another reality and this F95zone portal is where our reality intersects with theirs. Truly marvelous feat of engineering that these devs have put together.

If you want to see what real women like, open a fashion magazine, Google "K-Pop idol", "hottest actor 2023", or my personal favorite go browse on those softcore porn apps that are very popular among young women and girls nowadays. aka . Here's a whole list of them . There's also Yonder, which has a lot of erotic stories for women + cover-art which are all muscular hunks with washboard apps and huge shoulders. Another is reddit.com/r/GirlGamers, go see who they thirst over.

Men who wants to fuck beautiful women should know how they think and position themselves to fuck them. Though I can't say the same for our friends on the other universe.
 
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1000% true. Defeats the purpose. That's alone why for me for instance Scars of Summer is nothing more than a decent game - you have to run around and initiate NTR with guys of your choice yourself.

I'd like though games to have avoidable NTR and good ending but NTR to be so hard to avoid that you're essentially bound to get NTRed unless you give it the game another playthrough knowing all the mechanics, something like Nebel Geistejager as Cleanfeel described it once, though I am yet to play it (smth. like by the time you fully understand the dating/game mechanics and where to find FMC she already gets fucked by the chad or is about to be).

P.S. Having a blast for a 3rd day in a row with Wife's Phone. Couldn't run it on Android though but it'd be nice as the main game interface looks exactly like a phone. Lots of branches - can corrupt wife and make her cheat, or share her, and spy on her mostly through her phone messages (her BBC whore friends corrupt her too, there are her boss, your brother, some random instagram fuckers and more). There are more chicks to fuck or corrupt and even MtF stuff.
Wife's phone was surprisingly good for me as well
 

Komarun

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How logical do you want the women in NTR to be? Will the only available antagonists be tall, attractive, rich, and good in bed? At that point, you're not wanting an NTR game, you're wanting a josei manga.
 

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But the same contrast is created in the opposite way as well :unsure:
It's not just Ugly bastard it's primarily a loser sub archetype of character which is usually get cheated on, not the other way around. I quite enjoyed with ugly bastard path in the Gaptax game and Divagate though.
You can dislike because you see yourself in it and you can also like it because you see yourself in it, so what one is the right? :WaitWhat:
The emotional attachment usually comes from the latter case, so :HideThePain:
The problem is that with Inoda I don't care just like with MC who always gets cheated on because he resembles it so much.
Anyway I hope Fujino will make a game with different paths at some point.


Yes, I was only judging from my personal tastes. The scenes quality are very good indeed.
How logical do you want the women in NTR to be? Will the only available antagonists be tall, attractive, rich, and good in bed? At that point, you're not wanting an NTR game, you're wanting a josei manga.
Some people here just don't know how to use particulars and universals. If you say "I've never seen a women fall in love to a fat guy for his appearance" or "Nobody likes fat people", you're obviously setting yourself up to failure because it's going to take one case of the contrary to rebut your thesis.

People generally don't find fat people attractive. Big surprise there. Regardless, this is literally a site for porn fantasies and fetishes. The whole point is to estimulate your mind and creativiness to conceive situations that are most unlikely to happen.

And this is not even going into the fact that there's people here with "futa fetish", "scat fetish" and other fucking bizarre things. Are you really telling me that "fat people fetish" can't exist too?
 
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I quite like Inoda as an antagonist.

There is a fuck-boy (I'd call him Chad, but he drugs women, so he's def not) who ends up fucking Kiritos sister, and I don't think he'd be nearly as effective as the bad guy for Asuna. The reason Inoda is so effective is because of just how fucking pathetic he is. Kirito is supposed to be the powerful gamer who got the girl, who won, and all of a sudden this nerdy human turd of a guy appears out of nowhere as his neighbor and starts taking what was his. It makes for great NTR.

Not to mention Asunas pride. A bully type figure wouldn't meld well with her, because she both hates bullies and is an extremely prideful person. Forceful charms would be ineffective. Instead of a clash of personalities, one which Kirito would certainly notice, (as well Asa relationship he'd be weary of, seeing his girl with this muscled guy), we see a more underhanded side. We see Inoda, someone so pathetic and sad Kirito lets him onto their team and barely suspects even the POSSIBILITY of something happening between him and Asuna, slowly but surely worm his way into banging the chick of his dreams.

I think it's all pretty good. Forget logic, let's think narrative. I don't think Asuna once ever said she was attracted to Inoda, she was just horny for him, horniness spawned from a lack of pleasure from her bf and misplaced pity for this bullied bastard. Yeah, it's still not perfectly realistic, but I just judge realism in porn games off of whether my suspension of disbelief remains intact.

And for this game, it did.
 
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jaden000

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tbf, a SAO NTR parody isn’t going to have much depth regarding character and how the motivation is portrayed for ntr reasoning. It’s meant to be full of NTR tropes and The setup for the initial NTR coulda been done way better for sure I’m sure the dev will get better over time.
 

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Anyone understand what this game about? Is it BSS theme?
yup its BSS kinda everyone can bang your crush before you got the balls to confess (kinda pointed in the trial tho)
 

cIoseopenbrutal

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People generally don't find fat people attractive. Big surprise there. Regardless, this is literally a site for porn fantasies and fetishes. The whole point is to estimulate your mind and creativiness to conceive situations that are most unlikely to happen.
Amen.

Same reason why I enjoy ntr with shota Bull in it. These kinds of taboos are something that makes ntr interesting for me.

Same with Ladies that fall because of simple reasons like , big dick , simple mental manipulation , or blackmail. Those are just common tropes of ntr that an amateur writer uses. I've learned that not all developers are jack of all trades. There will always be flaws depending on each individual's taste.


If you want to see what real women like, open a fashion magazine, Google "K-Pop idol", "hottest actor 2023", or my personal favorite go browse on those softcore porn apps that are very popular among young women and girls nowadays.
We're talking about fictional characters here. It's NOT a requirement to make heroines portray realistic ideals and common sense in a FICTIONAL game.

That also applies in porn vids and ntr avs. If you've seen some ntr av's, they're mostly just raping the heroine out of nowhere or a simple blackmail trope.There are also scenes that show where the husband is just in the earshot of them fucking.

If you base everything in reality , then what's the point of enjoying porn? The critique you gave about the sao ntr game is valid. Nothing wrong with it. It's your personal opinion., BUT the fact that you try and act like you're better than everybody else here thinking that people dont know how to separate reality from fiction is so obtuse.

I feel like I called you out about this a while ago, and here you are trying to mock people again with the same nonesensical rhetorics.
 
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jaden000

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One of my favorite NTR trope is
Amen.
If you base everything in reality , then what's the point of enjoying porn? It's ok if that's your personal taste and I have no problems with it, BUT the fact that you try and act like you're better than everybody else here thinking that people dont know how to separate reality from fiction is so obtuse.
Agreed..realism has its place in leaving NTR impact but one of my NTR trope is oblivious NTR. It’s hella unrealistic but I love every bit of it but there are times when realism also helps. NTR itself is highly unrealistic and lot of conveniences needs to happen to be realistic which is fine..shouldn’t be a deal breaker imo
 

cIoseopenbrutal

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one of my NTR trope is oblivious NTR. It’s hella unrealistic but I love every bit of it but there are times when realism also helps.
Yeah , same here, I also enjoy oblivious ntr. Realism does help, but like I said, not everyone is a good writer, so that's why you see these common tropes everywhere.


These comments below are the problem im pointing out. It's mockery and stupid at the same time. He thinks everyone are dumb and can't separate reality. He's one of those pretentious idiots that thinks everyone is stupid.

Our fellow NTR enthusiast lives in a world where fringe minorities represent his world view on female mating habits. Enough said.
People who dig Inoda and believe he is a good candidate for sexual partner for a high value woman live in another reality and this F95zone portal is where our reality intersects with theirs. Truly marvelous feat of engineering that these devs have put together.
If you want to see what real women like, open a fashion magazine, Google "K-Pop idol", "hottest actor 2023", or my personal favorite go browse on those softcore porn apps that are very popular among young women and girls nowadays. aka . Here's a whole list of them . There's also Yonder, which has a lot of erotic stories for women + cover-art which are all muscular hunks with washboard apps and huge shoulders. Another is reddit.com/r/GirlGamers, go see who they thirst over.
 
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