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Byzantine

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If you are talking about tags here on f95zone, you are preaching to the choir, I have been advocating for ages the need for a minimum 3 different NTR tags but the mods here disagree.
There should be, instantly people would know what theyre getting into and further clarification wouldn't be needed.
 
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LordFrz

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If you are talking about tags here on f95zone, you are preaching to the choir, I have been advocating for ages the need for a minimum 3 different NTR tags but the mods here disagree.
There should be, instantly people would know what theyre getting into and further clarification wouldn't be needed.
Netorare, Netorase, Netori all confirmed as new tags when they implement the new system. Along with the ability to mark tags as avoidable.

But no amount of tags will solve a dev stringing people along by saying the game has "x" when "x" only shows up in a very specific route for a couple of seconds.
 
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SonaGate Ye it didn't translate properly with MTool, I played it anyway. I was 4.5/10 for me. VERY VERY VERY repetitive tho there is no grinding involved. There is also a time limit so IF youre efficient, you have to play it atleast 3 times to get all scenes. If youre not efficent, then its more.
Only good thing is the cgs although not too many.
 
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And I showed you the absurdity of your comparison, because every other tags doesnt have to deal with this, Vanilla doesnt have to deal with this. The other tags are clearly defined and not labeled under that one big monolith. As I pointed out Netorare, Netorase, and Netori are all different yet all jumbled into the NTR tag. Its not ohhhhh theyre tricking Vanilla idiots. Its theyre wasting everyones time searching through posts and playing through a game downloading and wasting 30 mins of your time bare minimum. Is the NTR avoidable? Well what do you mean by NTR? Is it Netorare or Netorase with swingers or wait is this Netori? which perspective am i playing under? But its impossible to search for this or ask for clarifcation of the NTR without finding an insult mixed into the pile.
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sfoMMA85

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Netorare, Netorase, Netori all confirmed as new tags when they implement the new system. Along with the ability to mark tags as avoidable.
This rumor has been around since 1989, anyone have any idea when the mods will actually implement this here on f95?
 

fuckyoutoo22

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Disingenuous on full display
It's funny that you said this, because you literally entered this thread calling vaguely everyone here a "projecting cuck with mental problems", then after you calmed down from your childish tantrum and started talking with others here like a normal person, you deleted that comment, because you realize it made you look bad.
 

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We can all agree that a good NTR needs some kind of balance between realism and fantasy.
Personally I prefer more realism in NTR books/stories. Can I get it every time? No, but it's fine. We don't need to have these kind of conversation every time Cleanfeel complains about "unrealistic women in NTR games"
Realism can be very boring when it tries too hard imo. For example ntr through raping the girl until she becomes evil/corrupted is something I like, but it's not realistic at all, or oblivious mc, which is something I also like, or harem ntr, or "unlimited stamina dude", etc, many situations in ntr (and in hentai, or even generally stories) aren't realistic at all, and that's why they're fun.
Kill Bill or John Wick aren't very realistic, and guess what, they're still a ton of fun to watch.
What is important is internal consistency: a character needs to have a consistent personality and change related to their personality, the universe must be minimally cohesive, stuff needs to happen because it's ok in universe, etc...
Basically, you can stretch your suspension of disbelief in anything as long as it makes sense, and the quality of writing is somewhat there.

Of course some people can prefer more "realistic" stories, but that's personal preference, not some kind of universal rule, and there is a limit to that anyway lol. Full realism : she's cheating on the mc, they get a divorce, and now you play 3h of a legal procedures game to see who will keep the house, the cat and the kids, then 3 more hours of everyone being depressed and becoming an alcoholic.



new trial from the "Deceived by the host" (iir the name correctly) devs. Playable stuff is ~1 hour according to the dev
I honestly wish he made a tsundere/strong willed character again, they're the best in ntr corruption.

Real talk, devs need to be up front with any fetish and tags they have in their game. Though the problem actually comes when everyone has a different perception of what they classify as NTR. Like does the FMC flirting with another character and being emotionally stolen (but not sexually) count as NTR? Tags like Anal and Footjob are much easier to identify for everyone.
That's the main thing: for some people, if the female character, a mother of 2, isn't a virgin, it's ntr...
Though more seriously, people add the ntr tags even if said "ntr" is basically the female character being raped by some goblin in a bad ending after losing to a boss. A few years back this would have literally been a "bad ending with rape" and that's it, but nowadays since ntr is a meme everything is ntr.
And that's how you get games being tagged as ntr while they actually aren't.
It's annoying for people into ntr, and it's a loss for people not into ntr because most sane people wouldn't see a random bad ending making the game an ntr game.
That's the main problems with tags: how autistically precise do you need to be, interpreting it literally, vs the "spirit of the law" where games with significant portions being ntr are labelled, while "random ending 45748 where girl is raped then killed" isn't.

Edit: As for why we might feel attacked, I have had multiple instances of people directly disliking me and going out of their way to cause me trouble just because I post NTR content. It isn't limited to just me as a NTR writer/dev, others have too. It is hard to notice if you are never on the receiving end of NTR-phobia. Just one example: I had someone with netorphobia from f95zone make an account on Webnovel (a platform where I used to write) to purely leave a bad review.
It's funny because I see that a lot : apparently for the anti ntr crowd, people into ntr are some kind of evil group who harasses devs and artists, send them death threats to get ntr in the story.
And while I'm sure there are actual nutjobs into ntr out there (they exist in every fetish after all), I never ever seen that happen. Meanwhile, I've seen enough ntr stories over the years to see how some people react insanely bad to it, and do exactly that, ie sending threats, shitting on the threads about ntr games, etc.
And it's a recent developement too, as no one cared before, it was just like any other fetish you avoided if you didn't like.
 

Byzantine

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It's funny that you said this, because you literally entered this thread calling vaguely everyone here a "projecting cuck with mental problems", then after you calmed down from your childish tantrum and started talking with others here like a normal person, you deleted that comment, because you realize it made you look bad.
Isn't it? Because they(you) could have assumed I was talking about someone from the previous pages, but thats not what happened is it you instantly assumed it was you who was being talked about. Got a guilty conscience? By any chance? Sounds like i hit the nail right on the head.
Also i didn't delete that comment, it was deleted for me because it made someone here upset.
Point out my lie Bismuth1104 i'll wait.
 
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fuckyoutoo22

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Isn't it? Because they(you) could have assumed I was talking about someone from the previous pages
Then you're admiting you're very stupid and don't know how to write something towards a specific person in mind. If you don't reference who you're talking to, people are normally going to think you are generalizing, so much so that it happened. Another user just asked what the fuck you were going on about since you meddled in the middle of a discussion and you responded exactly how you did right now. "Hurr durr, you think it was to you, then you must be a cuck!"

Got a guilty chance? By any chance? Sounds like i hit the nail right on the head.
Lol, you're pretty thin-skinned, aren't you? You're the only one who keeps bring "cuck" into the subject. Either you're too stupid to think any smarter response or you're the one who feels insecure about it, after all, you came here name calling and belittling everyone who "had it coming" just because "waaahhh I don't like when Devs put NTR unexpectedly in my game because it hurts my fee fees!" even though it has fuck all to do with people who just play the games.
 
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Byzantine

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Then you're admiting you're very stupid and don't know how to write something towards a specific person in mind. If you don't reference who you're talking to
Because people can't misquote could they. Sounds like you're just projecting to me. Which should have been obvious from post one since your username is literally Fuckyoutoo
Lol, you're pretty thin-skinned, aren't you?
And there it is in that one post you revealed it really is in fact all projection. Because not even 3 sentences before you were already insulting me. But more importantly to me is the projection of stupidity and not the thin skinnedness
Because if you look at my post i've joined about 6 years ago and using math and your brain you would notice that this hasn't really been a thing for me I don't give a shit about your fetishes you're the one that cant even define what your fetish is on any given day.
Does baby need a bottle now that hes lost this argument? Gonna grow up and be a big boy instead of a edgy idiot?
 

fuckyoutoo22

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Because people can't misquote could they. Sounds like you're just projecting to me. Which should have been obvious from post one since your username is literally Fuckyoutoo

And there it is in that one post you revealed it really is in fact all projection. Because not even 3 sentences before you were already insulting me. But more importantly to me is the projection of stupidity and not the thin skinnedness
Because if you look at my post i've joined about 6 years ago and using math and your brain you would notice that this hasn't really been a thing for me I don't give a shit about your fetishes you're the one that cant even define what your fetish is on any given day.
Does baby need a bottle now that hes lost this argument? Gonna grow up and be a big boy instead of a edgy idiot?
"N-No U are the one projecting!"

Lol, you're a sad fuck.
 
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Byzantine

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"N-No U are the one projecting!"
I gave you proof why you were projecting, but hey at least im not a sad fuck who instantly thought he was the one being insulted as a lying worthless cuck now let your bull use your computer he might actually have something intelligent instead of flailing like a child.
 
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