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[ZBYToshiro]

Man with Nebel I played 10 hrs and only got a groping scene, then even when cheating after that I wasted a couple more hours trying to get scenes. Only reason I gave it so much time was because I really liked the spirit squeezing devil from that dev.

The game was turbo grindy with its bad combat, then having scene progress be RNG in the town scenes, so dumb. Every time I see people praise it they also point out its bad combat, but dude your gonna be doing combat 90% of the game so I dont get the praise, lol. BUtt to each their own. I hope his next game is more like spirit squeezing devil.

But I'm stoked to see a dev move away from the standard renpy / rpg maker and use something like unreal.

Nah, I always play it on easy mode, cheat the lv, the camera spot (from second playthrough) and many other things to skip combat. Basically, if you put those negative elements aside and fully understand the game mechanics, this game is worth enjoying. Of course, that also means I've admitted that the dungeon part (one of the most important parts) of Nebel is really unnecessarily complicated, especially when it will be the main source of corruption points at the beginning of the game. Really hope the dev will fix this point better in the next 2 works, especially the FPS one.

 

[Breakeringer]

Saw people looking for Fate DS. these links will be up for a few days.

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Fate DS 1.5

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They are both what the creator released as Fate DS, but are 2 completely different games. He abandoned 1.5 and just made a new game but called it an update.

Can you send it again? PLS

 

[2022meinfzone]

Just dont do a renpy game. There are tons and pretty much all looks the same. Like your girls. Im pretty sure I saw them already thousands of times in other games. Especially the blonde one is in 9/10 games.

LMAO yours reminds me of a comment I read long time ago in one of the VN threads: "She looks like someone put Michael fucking Jackson's head in a woman body!" And that was hilarious.

Renpy isn't an art style, could put any type of images in it.

But on the topic of art, this 3d Daz studio stuff is better than all those 3d anime game engine looking ones. Yes good 2D art can be the very best but like good artists that can pull it off are rare. If devs want to make an NTR game for the story and they are great 2D artists I say 2D daz art all the way.

Have to disagree. In my opinion, it totally depends on the artist's skills and time they spend on polishing the render. Daz3D can still pump out poor looking images that are worse than those 3d anime (koikatsu, com3d2). It's the user, not the engine's fault.

SvenVlad aside from the 1st, your models look good! Good luck with development. Nowadays I tend to avoid VN with characters that have enormous "assets" so yours look like a refreshing one.

 

[EnTeeArrr]

Have to disagree. In my opinion, it totally depends on the artist's skills and time they spend on polishing the render. Daz3D can still pump out poor looking images that are worse than those 3d anime (koikatsu, com3d2). It's the user, not the engine's fault.

Situation/writing trumps art choice of course, but yeah for me personally I'd rather default downloaded 3d model assets for Daz than anything in koikatsu, com3d2, looks like a children's game to me. That said I'll say that some terrible custom models in Daz are way worse than even those. That's just my taste anyway.

 

[The Jailer]

its the NTR thread so i will shoot my shot, does anyone know the timeline for this work ?

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it was translated in disorder and idk where to start...

 

[Dakaru]

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[LordFrz]

Situation/writing trumps art choice of course, but yeah for me personally I'd rather default downloaded 3d model assets for Daz than anything in koikatsu, com3d2, looks like a children's game to me. That said I'll say that some terrible custom models in Daz are way worse than even those. That's just my taste anyway.

Yea, I never really saw anything I liked in koikatsu so I avoided games in that style. But then with nothin to play I tried king of summer which made me rethink by views on it, the scenes were hot and the story really sold it.

The dev started mixing netorase story lines within the netorare story path so it dropped off hard for me personally. But it made me start to look at more koikatsu cg games. Its not the art but how the art is used to tell the story.

 

[Kulman]

Yea, I never really saw anything I liked in koikatsu so I avoided games in that style. But then with nothin to play I tried king of summer which made me rethink by views on it, the scenes were hot and the story really sold it.

The dev started mixing netorase story lines within the netorare story path so it dropped off hard for me personally. But it made me start to look at more koikatsu cg games. Its not the art but how the art is used to tell the story.

I think most illusion games are fine. For example insight of you uses honeyselect I think and it is one of the best corruption games out there. The graphics look amazing imo. Granted it is heavily modded, but thats part of it.

But I agree, personally koikatsu just does not do it for me. Something about the artstyle is just not "sexual" to me and I have trouble really getting into any of those games. It is just too cartoony.

 

[Sieglinnde]

Yea, I never really saw anything I liked in koikatsu so I avoided games in that style. But then with nothin to play I tried king of summer which made me rethink by views on it, the scenes were hot and the story really sold it.

The dev started mixing netorase story lines within the netorare story path so it dropped off hard for me personally. But it made me start to look at more koikatsu cg games. Its not the art but how the art is used to tell the story.

you should try games by fujino... "Scathatch prologue", "Sakura's Chapter", "Nero" and "Nero remake", "Chainsaw man Hotspring travel" and "Sword art online: Trap of breath and concealed magic"

 

[ZBYToshiro]

you should try games by fujino... "Scathatch prologue", "Sakura's Chapter", "Nero" and "Nero remake", "Chainsaw man Hotspring travel" and "Sword art online: Trap of breath and concealed magic"

Honestly, I don't like the Koikatsu CG in Fujimo's games much, it's still quite rough and the physics is extremely unrealistic, although I always prefer 2D art over 3D, the CG of SAO game is still not enough to keep me in a game whose only good point is the plot (as everyone said).

 

[Sieglinnde]

Honestly, I don't like the Koikatsu CG in Fujimo's games much, it's still quite rough and the physics is extremely unrealistic, although I always prefer 2D art over 3D, the CG of SAO game is still not enough to keep me in a game whose only good point is the plot (as everyone said).

If you like NTR, you maybe would want to try it... It is great in that aspect. I personally didn't like that much either, but when I tried it I fell in love with it... It has a lot of "mistery NTR" like behind a curtain, or through a call or a message... And the Koikatsu 3D models helps a lot

 

[Voilsh]

From what I seen from the guide that come from a certain S* site, BBQ Daisuki seems have to compromised some of their ambitions with this game, like tainted underwear, condoms for the protagonist to discover, 2 other scapped maps, bar VIP card,...

Such a shame that those features can't make it to the finished product, the game is still very enjoyable though.

+ impregnation (you even have that in the stats, then at some point it just doesn't show anymore when she has a fertilizable egg).
This game could have been so much more, not just in terms of actions, different clothing and more underwear, but scenes and story being twice or 3 times as long.
He probably just burned himself on it and stopped, calling whatever version he made the release one.
Truly a waste, as even as is I enjoyed the game immensely playing mystery + voyeur ntr, especially as the heroine is so damn erotic looking.
Right now he's developing some strange idea of fps+ntr.

 

[Voilsh]

I liked Nebel as well, but the mechanics in the dungeons, for me at least, were painful. It kinda killed the joy of playing.
But the CGs were very good.

Also, I'm trying to develop an NTR game and I'd like some opinions if my female characters are looking good enough.

This here is the main love interest. She's also the one who is gonna be involved in the most NTR scenes throughout the game.
She's not a controllable characters. The MC will be able to influence some of her decisions, but when we see some of the scenes through her perspective, there won't choices to make (unless it envolves some fetishes).

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This one is her BFF

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And this one I'm still thinking.

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All of them will be involved in NTR scenes one way or another. There will also be an option to disable the NTR right at the start.

Second and third are cute, first has a weird feel to it.
Avoidable ntr though, imo this makes the weakest ntr games usually.
Will it be male mc? Will it have corruption/mystery or is it the usual western style cuckold?

 

[jaden000]

Second and third are cute, first has a weird feel to it.
Avoidable ntr though, imo this makes the weakest ntr games usually.
Will it be male mc? Will it have corruption/mystery or is it the usual western style cuckold?

Avoidable ntr will always make ntr very weak imo but I know it makes a more engaging gameplay experience for some ppl

 

[Voilsh]

Avoidable ntr will always make ntr very weak imo but I know it makes a more engaging gameplay experience for some ppl

Indeed, most of the stories with "avoidable" ntr ends up with ntr being weak and non ntr being also weak. Even worse when it's done by western devs as they don't usually get the fetish.
Only times it was ok was when there is a "happy" ending route where the ntr doesn't happen, usually shorter route but nice as a "what if".

 

[2022meinfzone]

IMHO, anything that has the option to disable NTR is not a game, and that option serves 1 purpose only: make vanilla people want to try your game. If the dev's aim is to create an interactive graphic novel then whatever. Otherwise, it should not exist in a game.

Avoidable NTR (done well and backed by good amount of contents in each "routes") is good mechanic though. Makes the game more accommodating but also make developing harder and more time-consuming.

 

[jaden000]

IMHO, anything that has the option to disable NTR is not a game, and that option serves 1 purpose only: make vanilla people want to try your game. If the dev's aim is to create an interactive graphic novel then whatever. Otherwise, it should not exist in a game.

Avoidable NTR (done well and backed by good amount of contents in each "routes") is good mechanic though. Makes the game more accommodating but also make developing harder and more time-consuming.

Like how often do NTR fans play avoid the NTR route because as a NTR fan I can’t recall a time where I actually seriously invested my time playing a NTR avoid route. Just seems a waste of time to I might as well play a different game and playing the non NTR route isn’t all of a sudden gonna make the NTR route more impactful for me

 

[2022meinfzone]

Like how often do NTR fans play avoid the NTR route because as a NTR fan I can’t recall a time where I actually seriously invested my time playing a NTR avoid route. Just seems a waste of time to I might as well play a different game and playing the non NTR route isn’t all of a sudden gonna make the NTR route more impactful for me

Because some people want to control the game's narrative?
Take NTR Knight for example, player decide which route to go in by allow an antagonist to mess with the female lead while prevent the other antagonist to do so.

Or dungeon bride: choose which one of the bad guys to sleep with the girl.

Leana 2: if dislike like the shithead King, player can toss the girl to the enemy and NTR still happens, just with other characters.

Also in Nebel Geisterjager: NTR can happens if you late to call Kana or the protagonist allow it to happen (I think the dev wanted to expand the netorase route but unabled to so we only got to sell the AVs and 1 ending scene)

Lastly, make things more at stake. You said "play" and not read or watch, so this is my respond.

It's A GAME!

 

[Sieglinnde]

Because some people want to control the game's narrative?
Take NTR Knight for example, player decide which route to go in by allow an antagonist to mess with the female lead while prevent the other antagonist to do so.

Or dungeon bride: choose which one of the bad guys to sleep with the girl.

Leana 2: if dislike like the shithead King, player can toss the girl to the enemy and NTR still happens, just with other characters.

Also in Nebel Geisterjager: NTR can happens if you late to call Kana or the protagonist allow it to happen (I think the dev wanted to expand the netorase route but unabled to so we only got to sell the AVs and 1 ending scene)

Lastly, make things more at stake. You said "play" and not read or watch, so this is my respond.

It's A GAME!

 

[SvenVlad]

Second and third are cute, first has a weird feel to it.
Avoidable ntr though, imo this makes the weakest ntr games usually.
Will it be male mc? Will it have corruption/mystery or is it the usual western style cuckold?

Won't be weak, I promise you.
Yes, male MC. Yes, there will be corruption. As for the mystery, not sure what you mean. The MC won't be aware for quite some time.

As for the avoidable NTR, I know a lot people don't like this kind of approach, but I wanted to do a Love Path too from the very beginning. I like games with some sweet romance, so I decided to do that with mine as well.

You'll set the path you want when the game begins. And don't worry, there will be lots of netorare scenes later in the game, I just need to set the context and the relationship first to have a bigger impact when the cheating starts.